katy has been bigger than gaga but we all know gaga ended up as the winner. but when is it happened?

Never, since Gaga has always been ahead.

 

Since she was born

i fear gaga surpassed katy during shallow era. no?

Gaga was always lightyears ahead of Katy

 

but in order for people to get that through their skulls, Katy needed to start flopping on the charts. And that started with Birthday.

 

 

 

Edited September 1, 20242 yr by SmittenCake

On August 19th, 2008 with the release of her debut album The Fame 

Even her floppiest singles look like smashes compared to Katy's. Gaga was always a bigger name than Katy. Even when she was flopping with ARTPOP her first week sales were on par with hit albums like PRISM by Katy or Bangerz by Miley and... it was considered a low for Gaga while a high for both Miley and Katy. Think about that for a minute. 

Katy was only bigger from 2012-4, I say this as a die hard of both. Even during the height of TD when Katy was getting better numbers, Gaga's grip on the culture was at the level of Taylor Swift's in 2024.

lol katy is flopping

In 2018 it was pretty clear for anyone versed in pop culture that Gaga's career was going to end up bigger than Katy's in every sense. 2020 sealed the deal. 2024 is the year were even Gaga's biggest haters and Katy's biggest supporters alike have no choice but to admit it.

2008.

5 minutes ago, Sheep said:

Katy was only bigger from 2012-4, I say this as a die hard of both. Even during the height of TD when Katy was getting better numbers, Gaga's grip on the culture was at the level of Taylor Swift's in 2024.

Not to mention Gaga's downfall made headlines. No one cares or knows about Katy's downfall in the GP. They just forgot about her. Gaga's made noise. 

Probably ASIB and Witness

In 2008 when she released Just Dance 

 

and Katy was never bigger than Gaga. 

Even katy's first 3 albums combined failed to outsell TFM back in the day. 

 

People just used katy for couple songs and then let her go. 

When Gaga released John Wayne and ended Rise chanteuse 

 

 

Shallow was the tie-breaker 

Gaga was always ahead of Katy. 

Gaga was never behind. Katy was just bigger than her for a few years (mainly the 'PRISM' years), but that was never enough for Katy to be bigger than Gaga overall at any point.

 

maybe its cause her car is better?

Rise was the end of an era of Katy Perry hits let's be real. So 2016. Ironically the song Rise became her fall down. 

Another Katy vs Gaga thread

 

Objectively the "bigger" (who was dominating charts/radio at the moment) artist was

 

Before December 2008 - Katy Perry 

Between December 2009 and May 2010 - Lady Gaga 

Between May 2010 and February 2011 - Katy Perry*

Between February 2011 and May 2011 - Lady Gaga 

Between June 2011 and February 2015 - Katy Perry 

2015 Suber Bowl - 2017 Super Bowl Lady Gaga 

Parts of 2017: Katy Perry

After Feels dies off: Mostly Lady Gaga **

 

*Before anyone comes for me, I am talking about who was dominating the charts and radio at the time. Yes, they both had breaks in between these moments, which gave space for the other.

 

** After 2017, they both took breaks, but LG was much more active and bigger on charts/radio. KP's depression and large gaps hit her hard (her mental health and career.) She's had some moments in the sun post-2017. We can't ignore NRO and HIW going viral. Even if her music is not nearly as successful, you cannot deny her star power. Hell, she went viral for a fake AI image at the Met Gala she didn't attend.  Any time she says something remotely unbefitting, it also go virals. If she was truly a "has been" we would not care she tweeted about a cyber truck. We wouldn't be see the 1,000 threads a day about her. No one would even think to ask "Who had the bigger music career Ashlee Simpson or Adele?" 

 

It's not 2009 or 2013 anymore. Let's grow up a little bit. I am pretty sure both hate the constant comparisons. 

 

Gaga was always the more talented, acclaimed and versatile of the two and the only advantage that Katy had was her streak of big hits during TD and Prism, which I suspect had more to do with her songwriters and producers being more talented in that department than her.

Artistically? Akways. Commercially? When Katy's comeback single Rise barely managed to outpeak Gaga's flop comeback Perfect Illusion

 

 

March 28th 1986 at 09:53 AM

Edited September 1, 20242 yr by Luckitty

She was only bigger maybe for Teenage Dream