Just now, Aristotle said:

International meaning outside of America. 

And that’s a few west European countries, right? Because BTW sold the same or outsold it in every other continent or country. 

Selena or Demi. 

4 minutes ago, wish said:

It's just not worth mentioning her in a thread like this when artists like Selena, Dua, and P!nk exist 

 

I am stuck in 2016/17. I don't recall Selena being a MPG but I considered Miley MPG even when the majority of ATRL did not. Dua could be true but probably not P!NK, at least not globablly. 

 

I only like Billie from the new girls and don't even know most of the rest. 

2 minutes ago, wish said:

It's just not worth mentioning her in a thread like this when artists like Selena, Dua, and P!nk exist 

 

Every Pink album has outsold Miley’s peak in pure sales sans her last two, and she has 4 that are much bigger and global in units. No comment on the other two. 

3 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said:

And that’s a few west European countries, right? Because BTW sold the same or outsold it in every other continent or country. 

Loud - 6.63M

BTW -6.73M (with 500K one dollar albums) WW

 

Leona Lewis, sadly

5 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

Loud - 6.63M

BTW -6.73M (with 500K one dollar albums) WW

 

it was 400k because of Amazon and that would impact the US not WW. Which Rihanna also did 2 years before that. And yeah we know UK, France,Switzerland and Germany are big markets. BTW outsold it everywhere else or the same (such as Oceania). 

15 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

Loud - 6.63M

BTW -6.73M (with 500K one dollar albums) WW

 

well free streams count as sales today, so now what?

1 minute ago, spree said:

well free streams count as sales today, so now what?

This includes pure sales only. 

 

another thread y’all just naming anyfuckinbody.

Cindy Lauper or Paula Abdul

Out of the MPGs, Ariana. She had a short big moment in 2018 with TU,N and 7 Rings, then Billie stole her spotlight

6 minutes ago, Ron Ng said:

Out of the MPGs, Ariana. She had a short big moment in 2018 with TU,N and 7 Rings, then Billie stole her spotlight

no tears left to cry (2018) - #3

god is a woman (2018) - #8

breathin' (2018) - #12

thank u, next (2018) - #1

7 rings (2019) - #1

buwygib (2019) - #2

stuck with u (2020) - #1

rain on me (2020) - #1

positions (2020) - #1

34+35 (2021) - #2

SYT (2022) - #1

Die For You (2023) - #1

 

In the last 5 years alone, she's scored 10 top 3 singles (7 #1s), 3 #1 albums (having spent a total of 425 weeks charting on Billboard), over a dozen Grammy nominations (including 2 wins). She got a #1 hit with DFY (which spent 52 weeks charting) which she recorded in between takes on the Wicked set which is bigger than any Billie song since 'bad guy' 5 years ago.

Why are people saying Rihanna? She was really big—bigger than some of y'all faves. The real answer might be Demi and Selena Gomez, although I don't know if Demi is an MPG.

Edited November 16, 20232 yr by réveuse

5 hours ago, byzantium said:

This is an interesting question.  Maybe Selena, Demi, or Lana. 

They been here for over a decade are you ok?

Kesha probably she was on par of Taylor Swift I'm sure there's other that came and went within 1-3 years

5 hours ago, Glamthony said:

Christina Aguilera, her peak was "beautiful" chart run.

Xtina's mainstream career was so small. Debut + Stripped in the USA. Stripped + Back To Basics outside the USA.

28 minutes ago, R.E.M. said:

no tears left to cry (2018) - #3

god is a woman (2018) - #8

breathin' (2018) - #12

thank u, next (2018) - #1

7 rings (2019) - #1

buwygib (2019) - #2

stuck with u (2020) - #1

rain on me (2020) - #1

positions (2020) - #1

34+35 (2021) - #2

SYT (2022) - #1

Die For You (2023) - #1

 

In the last 5 years alone, she's scored 10 top 3 singles (7 #1s), 3 #1 albums (having spent a total of 425 weeks charting on Billboard), over a dozen Grammy nominations (including 2 wins). She got a #1 hit with DFY (which spent 52 weeks charting) which she recorded in between takes on the Wicked set which is bigger than any Billie song since 'bad guy' 5 years ago.

It's called longevity, OP was asking about peaks, and obviously Billie had the bigger peak in 2019-20

Edited November 16, 20232 yr by Ron Ng

Rihanna was moving tens of millions of records per year during her peak how on earth is that not big

54 minutes ago, ReH2o said:

Cindy Lauper or Paula Abdul

Cyndi’s peak was huge

You guys don't know anything about sales at all? Just posting random and completely inaccurate names. It used to be different years ago. 

5 hours ago, lillavend3r said:

Girl bye the Rude Boy-Loud era was her peak she was everywhere

Rude Boy came out in 2009 on Rated R. and that album was an underperformance and 2010 was the year Lady Gaga was the #1 artist in the world. During Loud it was Adele.

 

Rihanna is known for not having a huge peak like some of her peers but being very consistent nonetheless.  

People saying Kesha & Meghan. Meghan literally had a hit single last year & had moderate success through out the years same with Kesha who had a hit single in 2017. 
 

Many artists can’t replicate the same Success they had during their debut album. It’s totally unfair to expect them to be about to do that. 

Edited November 16, 20232 yr by Power love

4 minutes ago, Alexz said:

Xtina's mainstream career was so small. Debut + Stripped in the USA. Stripped + Back To Basics outside the USA.

All of that was in the span of a decade & she’s had massive hits even past that as mainstream. So this is incorrect. Sorry . Try again. 

4 hours ago, CandleGuy said:

Not P!nk even being forgotten in this thread 

 

She's the prime example of consistent success without ever really being a top 3 girl

I feel like 2001-2002 was definitely her moment. Britney was slowing down and transitioning to adulthood. Xtina was just about to release Stripped. The veteran pop girls like Mariah, Madonna, Janet and Whitney had hits but were clearly slowing down. Only Avril was the big new name.