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It's an absolute masterpiece and such a cool video! The choreo here is one of my faves ever. I wish it was iconic though because it deserves, if there ever was a post-nipplegate Janet moment that deserved to be iconic it would be this.

Doesn't this kind of prove OP's point? OT: Yes and creativity in all sectors not just mainstream music. In film, in literature, in art, etc. There is the aspect of growing older so you have less patience for things you don't enjoy since you know your tastes better as you grow up. But there was a time in pop mainstream where musicians were so interesting even people above 30 were drawn to them. That's not the case today because only younger people who haven't been exposed to a more exciting time have any interest in the newer acts. And even with the younger people they're seeking out older music for that very same reason. There is a tremendous problem with the arts and AI is a further problem and it reflects with the current mainstream music offerings.

Still holds up as the best album released this year

It's a really good song. I had no idea it was this popular

Maybe Rihanna should have done 23472352526 TikTok videos like Katy and she would have had 4M more streams

Daily streams Lift Me Up 121, 143 143 (WHOLE ALBUM JUST RELEASED A YEAR AGO) 116, 754 Get in here and let's start talking about flops @halcyonday

You know well enough what I meant. Two, Lift Me Up charted higher than any song Katy released since 2014, and even the flop ass Smurf song did better than Watch It Burn. Don't think a Katy stan should be talking about flops

And Kate Bush and Sade and P. J. Harvey. Queens.

It's been a dreadful ten years since Rihanna's last album and she's still managed to be somewhat relevant and her catalogue remains one of the most consumed in the industry. Which of the other pop girls who also achieved great success during the 2010s would manage to steer away from obscurity and have their music do well in the hypothetical situation of a ten year hiatus?

Oh trust me I agree. He should have been WHACKED good after that Anti Tidal mess when he helped Ye and Bey get those preposterous Tidal streaming numbers for their releases when all Rih got was 460 which had us fighting for our lives. So I'll never feel bad about Jay endings. Go ahead and whack the camel

Reading through the thread and seeing the Jay, Kanye, and Drake WHACKS Better than anything pop girl related I've seen in a bit on this forum. I'm LIVING

Tbh that comment just read that he was appreciating Rihanna's loyalty and taking a dig at people he might have helped who turned on him. I'm not Jay's biggest fan but it sounds like you wanted to whack him which you might as well if you want to but yeah I don't think he said anything bad with that Rih comment

No shade to Xtina but Jay has more solo songs with 300M+ streams on Spotify than she does