lonnie
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Perhaps I could have worded it better, I was in no way condemning her but just stating a fact. No way conservatives would have loved her as much as they do if she was more vocal about opposition towards Trump's statements and policies that were in conflict with her values and actions. To be universally loved as Dolly was, one has to be neutral when it comes to political parties and presidents. A person like say, Fonda or Meryl, cannot be universally loved because they're not neutral. You summed it up perfectly. I think she was uniquely able to be beloved by the more liberal and left-leaning groups because of her own liberal beliefs and was beloved by conservatives because she never condemned them. I don't think there's currently a public figure that has all these elements as she did.
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That wouldn't be true either, because that dancehall/Caribbean/pop mix with songs like Watch n Learn, Rude Boy, Watch n Learn, Work all sound very much like Rihanna. Other than that there's a particular time when labels literally tried to imitate her tone with new artists. That's impossible if someone has no sonic identity. It's very possible that one can dabble in various genres and still sound like herself which is in part why Rihanna is successful. She sounds like Rihanna whether on Where Have You Been, Man Down, Diamonds, Rockstar 101, or Pour It Up because there's nothing like that voice, you hear it and you immediately know who it is that's singing.
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I don't think there's another one like Dolly. Because as much as I love her, and I think that she's a wonderful person who did a lot for her community, she's universally loved because she was never vocal about her politics and never condemned conservatives outright. She's never really said anything against Trump which is why the conservatives love her as well as people from the left and center. The people mentioned in this thread: Cher, Meryl, Shakira, Rihanna, Julie Andrews, have all criticized Trump and his policies and the conservatives at some point so they're not adored by that side the way Dolly was.
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I think she genuinely changed, and wasn't conservative before. However, I think people have been so very lenient with her. If this was someone else who had gone conservative and had aligned themselves with the far right and their values they would be dragged and left behind (rightfully so). It's hypocritical to drag Nicki (rightfully) about her change in politics and social beliefs, but in the same breath defend Gwen.
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Rest in Peace icon and legend
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I don't drink or do any drugs, other than three or four puffs of weed every month or so, I think a lot more gay people where I live (Nairobi) are doing coke and a percentage of them meth too. I don't think being judgemental is really helpful as it reinforces the feelings of shame and guilt which can't be easy to navigate if you have a dependency issue, but at the same time it is heartbreaking to see what it's doing. A good deal of the ones I know have no access to resources to help them get better and were cut off from family because Kenya (and the region in the general) is deeply homophobic. So in a way all they have are the gay friends who they're doing hard drugs with which is concerning.
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A beautiful person and spirit gone too soon. One of my favourite songs from her
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I think it just doesn't hold up well as a piece of music. And that it would be doing around 3M daily streams without The Fate of Ophelia's streams, and 2M without Opalite, shows how much both her fans and the public aren't as big fans of her music with this album as they were with her previous albums. I think her massive success made her lazier with the lyricism and melodies with this project. Granted 5M daily streams 10 months after release isn't terrible, it's underwhelming given Taylor's recurrent power.
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Beyoncé has great music, both as a part of DC and as a solo act. I don't think either of the discographies are in competition, and if anything compliment each other. Bey as a solo act has a more diverse sound, but DC still has some good music that has aged very well.
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Truly shows how tasteless this site is
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