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Going through the comments of the thread in the OP and the navy (myself) really used to bat for the flop back then OT: No, she's done at this point. She failed to deliver with her sophomore and I can't see how her and her team will turn it around. She might get semi-major hits like Chanel in the future but she's never really going to break out at this point.

Disturbia is a literal classic at this point I wonder how close it is to Diamond in the U.S. by now

DWAS longevity is actually insane

When Rihanna taught me what smegma meant:

Y'all getting caught up in your false statements then resorting to this is so funny. Like what does it cost you to admit that you were wrong and that Rihanna does in fact have writing credits spread well beyond half of her discography

I don't get it, has her team become such yes men that no one could have told her this sounded a mess and didn't need to be released?

This as well. But you told us her albums don't do well in the U.S.? @OrgVisual

You just made that up (as you have the other things you've posted in here). None of the least successful albums by the other mpgs comes close to her most successful anyway so I don't know what you thought you were doing with this

I think the point of the thread is that no one, probably bar Mariah Carey, was able to have both albums released annually and have several major worldwide hits from them every single time. Which remains accurate. Sure lots of artists (Cher, Donna Summer, Diana Ross, etc) were releasing albums annually just as later Kylie and Britney and then Rihanna did. But none of them had as many hits as her and that's a fact. Also GGGB and Loud are 2/8 of her albums. All her other albums have some writing credit on them (6/8). So it's truly wild that you'll try to minimize her songwriting efforts when y'all are trying to drag her for not writing?

Exactly which is why Beyoncé has Rihjects in her discography

As though a #1 album means anything if the album doesn't have legs to support it. Rihanna sold just as much as anyone not named Adele and Taylor and your ass got clocked, now it's "I was talking about the U.S." Give it up deelishis

And no shade, pop music would be much better than it currently is if people would let themselves work with songwriters and producers. Not everyone is a talented writer, and that's fine. Especially in pop music. There have been industry songwriters as far back as Ella Fitzgerald and Dinah Washington in the 1940s and 1950s. But everyone is chasing for Pitchfork acclaim, stans and artists included, and would rather artists write some mediocre songs by themselves that sound bland after some listens rather than work with talented writers who can deliver songs that still sound great after years. I am glad Rihanna worked with songwriters because I cannot trade any of those gold coated hits that still sound so good for some contrived self-written songs that wouldn't have lasted the test of time. Sorry those pretentious stans can shout all they want about not respecting her for working with songwriters but even they cannot deny the sheer amount of bops that they bop to thanks to those same songwriters.

How dumb as though Rihanna isn't the executive producer on nearly all of her albums, with writing credits on a majority of them too.

Loud sold over 6M PURE without a re-release or reissue and with just months worth of an era before Talk That Talk was released. You truly have no clue what you're talking about and I'm glad your wig is being shifted every which way in here

And my question still remains that each and every one of the songwriters and producers Rihanna worked with (Calvin Harris, Ester Dean, Stargate, James Fauntelroy, etc) are still very active in the industry writing and producing. How come not a single other popstar has emerged who has the same streak of banger after banger every era as Rihanna did? It's so easy and so simple and all you need is songwriters and producers, well where are the generational string of bangers these producers and songwriters have given to other popstars? Quickly.