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That isn't the album you should be worrying about Tyla stan. Only 6 days left until A-Flop drops

Jay Z's Roc Nation is Rihanna's management and not her label (she now releases music off of her own label, although distribution etc. is done by others) and owns her masters and owned them before Taylor did (not sure if she finally bought them). She hasn't been signed to Def Jam since like 2012/2013? Anyway point being Rihanna eats off of her music as well and no one is ordering her around otherwise an album would have dropped by now. Why would any label let their profitable artist that they apparently own take a ten year break when they could have squeezed at least 4 more albums out of her during that period?

Let it all out dearie

Because those songs wouldn't have been any bigger regardless of who was on them. It's not about her specifically but the songs she released this decade were: a PartyNextDoor feature, and three soundtracks, one of these being a Smurf song, no one expected any of those to be huge hits. Including yourself, and that's why even people who dislike her aren't really dragging her for them. If she does release an actual song to promote an actual album and it tanks, then it will be different.

Taylor could release a record of herself farting to the background of her cats meowing and it would still be a success. That's the reason she still releases, not for the love of the art itself, but because she's reached a level where she doesn't have to struggle at all to be majorly successful.

Gurl sure It really doesn't matter to me because I don't think it's all that serious. Like sure, critique away, that's absolutely fine. But why are we harping about this, a whole six days later? Is it really that serious?

I did NOT expect Madonna and Celine to be leading the pack like this. Wow

Gurl who literally cares? It's not that serious A bad performance isn't something irredeemable even if that's the case. Why are y'all going on and on about this it's been nearly a week Like sure, the performance could have been better. What else? Is that really worth all this hullabaloo? You'd think the lady stabbed someone

Also at the end of the day this doesn't really matter. Both of them approach their versatility in different ways: Gaga will have individual projects rooted in a certain sound (dance-pop, jazz, country-inspired, whatever). Rihanna will have MULTIPLE genres and sounds in a single album, Loud has a reggae track, an electro-pop song, a dancehall inspired track, a country inspired track, a Ballad, bubblegum pop, etc and she manages to pull it all off. People trying to discredit that are dumb, not everyone is capable of carrying that off.

Gaga stans can be so delusional at times She too has had songwriters, producers, etc come up with her songs as well. Only unlike Gaga, Rihanna doesn't take lead credits for songs written for her.

Wait that was him? I remember seeing it and thinking "how corny". Now I that I've seen it again I can't help but think: "how corny".

Diet Pepsi taking this is kind of wild

Sounds like the process, especially in its earlier developmental phase, was improvised and included random collaboration. Jazz itself as a genre is (or was in its earlier years) just that, so there's nothing new about that. But nothing from this description points to the point of the song being comic, perhaps it was also partly a diss track, but those are serious too. It was a genuine artistic process that yielded underwhelming results, as so often happens with many artists. Gaga released a dud, and that's okay baby

Now gurl, since when was the song a comedy song? I remember when it dropped and there was nothing comic about it (other than how beneath Gaga's quality it sounded)

Pay no mind to that obsessed bunch. Permanently fixed in pre-2016 Bey vs Rih stan wars, you'll find them in more numbers in Rih related threads than threads of their own fave