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K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

This is part 1 of the K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive discussion.

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    some of the new members not giving new at all 

56 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

blonde rei looks cute but i don’t think it’s the final color

we will probably get pink rei for the comeback :gaycatney1:

I need the final color to be Sakura pink :gaycatney1:

And hopefully they serve Cherry Blossom Ending type of Spring Smash :-*

so with TWICE also being monster tour girlies, how do we rank the 3rd gen girlies overall with the 4th gen monsters?

to me:

 

1. BLACKPINK - not a digital monster anymore like IVE and newjennies but are still digital monster compared to all 3rd gen groups, still the biggest female album sellers even with 4th gens selling like hotcakes, huge WW streams, 4 biggest names kpop has ever had, all members are super successful, biggest tour by a kpop act, headlining biggest US and UK festivals coachella and bst hyde park, still slaying 7 years later WW while keeping their original sound/without going full english releases like bots and twice - overall still the biggest female kpop act right now idk no need to explain further 

 

2. TWICE - fell off hardmdigitally but for some reason is still standing strong, tours are doing great #s, 3rd gg behind blackpink and snsd when it comes to touring, sales are consistent (most 4th gens outsell them but still), successful soloist, huge girl group in america (?)

 

3. IVE - all 3 releases so far are monster hits in korea and WW, album sales are millions despite all releases being single albums, has the biggest 4th gen it girl etc

 

4. aespa - fight me. the first and only girl group that outsold BLACKPINK's The Album in 2021. huge digital hits, kinda meh WW but not that bad I think, all 4th girlies are being marketed as a group still so no it girl like wonyoung yet but as a 4 they're pretty huge with givenchy, chopard etc deals. they also have the biggest 4th gen hit in korea so far

 

5. newjeans - the biggest act to come out of kpop ever on their first 6months, prolly gonna be bigger than bots and crackstink in 3 years. showing early signs that all 5 girls are gonna be like the BLACKPINK girlies/it girls/fashion girlies, 6months later and Hype Boy still top 3 and slaying globally, Attention still top 10 while having Ditto and OMG #1 and #2 respectively. the first and only kpop girl group that actually broke and rivaled bp on spotify streams etc etc

 

 

idk about the rest of the ggs but I think this top 5 is pretty accurate :foxaylove2:

yeah i'm kinda bored right now too :rip: 

CL is EATING in Paris! :flame:

love this look on her, I’m glad she’s not hiding herself under baggy clothes anymore.

 

 

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34 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

so the remaining encore dates fir Born Pink will be Stade De France and probably US Stadiums :bird:

 

They better still announce LATAM dates

I think the remaining dates are France, Brazil and Argentina maybe the US

38 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

so the remaining encore dates fir Born Pink will be Stade De France and probably US Stadiums :bird:

 

They better still announce LATAM dates

They’re definitely doing some encores in the US

Jisoo lowkey spoiled the tea in one of their B.P.M episodes, saying something along the lines of “we just finished the first leg/round of the US tour”

 

she wouldn’t say that if they weren’t coming back

45 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

so the remaining encore dates fir Born Pink will be Stade De France and probably US Stadiums :bird:

 

They better still announce LATAM dates

YG probably waiting for the pinks to officially renew before announcing more dates post-June 2023

 

Maybe they will do another brand new tour to support BP3 on Q4 2023 to 2024

26 minutes ago, Asscatchem said:

why do sm stans think cbar spam sales hold any credence? ANTI scanning platinum in 1 day teas

Money is money. There's no reason to disband a group that bringing in MONEY :michael:

19 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

so with TWICE also being monster tour girlies, how do we rank the 3rd gen girlies overall with the 4th gen monsters?

to me:

 

1. BLACKPINK - not a digital monster anymore like IVE and newjennies but are still digital monster compared to all 3rd gen groups, still the biggest female album sellers even with 4th gens selling like hotcakes, huge WW streams, 4 biggest names kpop has ever had, all members are super successful, biggest tour by a kpop act, headlining biggest US and UK festivals coachella and bst hyde park, still slaying 7 years later WW while keeping their original sound/without going full english releases like bots and twice - overall still the biggest female kpop act right now idk no need to explain further 

 

2. TWICE - fell off hardmdigitally but for some reason is still standing strong, tours are doing great #s, 3rd gg behind blackpink and snsd when it comes to touring, sales are consistent (most 4th gens outsell them but still), successful soloist, huge girl group in america (?)

 

3. IVE - all 3 releases so far are monster hits in korea and WW, album sales are millions despite all releases being single albums, has the biggest 4th gen it girl etc

 

4. aespa - fight me. the first and only girl group that outsold BLACKPINK's The Album in 2021. huge digital hits, kinda meh WW but not that bad I think, all 4th girlies are being marketed as a group still so no it girl like wonyoung yet but as a 4 they're pretty huge with givenchy, chopard etc deals. they also have the biggest 4th gen hit in korea so far

 

5. newjeans - the biggest act to come out of kpop ever on their first 6months, prolly gonna be bigger than bots and crackstink in 3 years. showing early signs that all 5 girls are gonna be like the BLACKPINK girlies/it girls/fashion girlies, 6months later and Hype Boy still top 3 and slaying globally, Attention still top 10 while having Ditto and OMG #1 and #2 respectively. the first and only kpop girl group that actually broke and rivaled bp on spotify streams etc etc

 

 

idk about the rest of the ggs but I think this top 5 is pretty accurate :foxaylove2:

yeah i'm kinda bored right now too :rip: 

Is touring a metric for current power though? We know that legacy acts always have huge touring stats. Like Elton John just scored the highest-grossing tour of all time, is he more relevant than let's say SZA or The Weeknd in 2023? 

2 minutes ago, Sept said:

Is touring a metric for current power though? We know that legacy acts always have huge touring stats. Like Elton John just scored the highest-grossing tour of all time, is he more relevant than let's say SZA or The Weeknd in 2023? 

gurl the same can be said about cbar spam sales

 

6 minutes ago, Sept said:

Money is money. There's no reason to disband a group that bringing in MONEY :michael:

yass we love breadwinners but lbr million sellers are barely noteworthy anymore :michael:

4 minutes ago, Sept said:

Is touring a metric for current power though? We know that legacy acts always have huge touring stats. Like Elton John just scored the highest-grossing tour of all time, is he more relevant than let's say SZA or The Weeknd in 2023? 

You act BP and twice have been in the industry for two decades :rip:


The Weeknd sold out his stadiums dates too. :giraffe:

1 minute ago, Asscatchem said:

gurl the same can be said about cbar spam sales

 

yass we love breadwinners but lbr million sellers are barely noteworthy anymore :michael:

which has nothing to do with the topic of discussion :michael:

 

GFad was disbanded because they were not as profitable

RV is still printing money for SM

 

Point clear 

They’re already announcing Teddy Bear -Japanese ver.- as next their next japanese release while still promoting Teddy Bear in korea. I think their company might be serious about courting the japanese market.

 

 

1 minute ago, Kirby Kirbs said:

They’re already announcing Teddy Bear -Japanese ver.- as next their next japanese release while still promoting Teddy Bear in korea. I think their company might be serious about courting the japanese market.

 

 

Tedd Bear is catchy i have to say, a guilty pleasure :deadbanana:

4 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

You act BP and twice have been in the industry for two decades :rip:


The Weeknd sold out his stadiums dates too. :giraffe:

Touring stats have always been about who's more established and cemented their status in the industry, rather than who's currently more popular

 

19 minutes ago, Sept said:

Is touring a metric for current power though? We know that legacy acts always have huge touring stats. Like Elton John just scored the highest-grossing tour of all time, is he more relevant than let's say SZA or The Weeknd in 2023? 

good point actually :foxaylove3:

how would your top 5 look like? 

 

42 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

so with TWICE also being monster tour girlies, how do we rank the 3rd gen girlies overall with the 4th gen monsters?

to me:

 

1. BLACKPINK - not a digital monster anymore like IVE and newjennies but are still digital monster compared to all 3rd gen groups, still the biggest female album sellers even with 4th gens selling like hotcakes, huge WW streams, 4 biggest names kpop has ever had, all members are super successful, biggest tour by a kpop act, headlining biggest US and UK festivals coachella and bst hyde park, still slaying 7 years later WW while keeping their original sound/without going full english releases like bots and twice - overall still the biggest female kpop act right now idk no need to explain further 

 

2. TWICE - fell off hardmdigitally but for some reason is still standing strong, tours are doing great #s, 3rd gg behind blackpink and snsd when it comes to touring, sales are consistent (most 4th gens outsell them but still), successful soloist, huge girl group in america (?)

 

3. IVE - all 3 releases so far are monster hits in korea and WW, album sales are millions despite all releases being single albums, has the biggest 4th gen it girl etc

 

4. aespa - fight me. the first and only girl group that outsold BLACKPINK's The Album in 2021. huge digital hits, kinda meh WW but not that bad I think, all 4th girlies are being marketed as a group still so no it girl like wonyoung yet but as a 4 they're pretty huge with givenchy, chopard etc deals. they also have the biggest 4th gen hit in korea so far

 

5. newjeans - the biggest act to come out of kpop ever on their first 6months, prolly gonna be bigger than bots and crackstink in 3 years. showing early signs that all 5 girls are gonna be like the BLACKPINK girlies/it girls/fashion girlies, 6months later and Hype Boy still top 3 and slaying globally, Attention still top 10 while having Ditto and OMG #1 and #2 respectively. the first and only kpop girl group that actually broke and rivaled bp on spotify streams etc etc

 

 

idk about the rest of the ggs but I think this top 5 is pretty accurate :foxaylove2:

yeah i'm kinda bored right now too :rip: 

1. BP

2. TWICE

3. newjeans

4. IVE

5. aespa

 

:giraffe:

8 hours ago, MonsterNavy said:

I may hate YG to death and still think they're the worst when it comes to managing artists esp crackstink

but the way they're kinda the last one standing out of the big 3 despite all of the mess happening in that company (idk anything about jypig)

 

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meanwhile JYP


 

1 hour ago, ItsJustMe. said:

oop he kinda ate lee know up? @Pluto2022 :gaycat3:

 

 

In your dreams!!!! 

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1 hour ago, Asscatchem said:

why do sm stans think cbar spam sales hold any credence? ANTI scanning platinum in 1 day teas

Last year, their restocked albums together sold 1M+, Birthday sold 1M, FMR sold 700k and FMR (the song) was SM's biggest hit on the Korean charts and RV was SM's best performing act on Melon and Spotify across the whole company.

 

Cbars ain't doing all that alone, come on now.

has chinese/china sales always been a part of IFPI or is this a new thing? 

 

 

3 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

has chinese/china sales always been a part of IFPI or is this a new thing? 

 

 

The label can decide whether or not to report the data to IFPI. For example, in 2020 they didn't count Chinese sales for folklore but they did it for Changes by Justin. 

6 hours ago, Dialamba said:


 

 

Hybe need to save them :rip:

2NE1 must be releasing a music video on Thursday.

2 hours ago, newaespa said:

I finally get OMG, i think it is better than Ditto now :deadbanana2:

 

 

Please RV can't disband BUT RV need to stop giving us their RED concept, how many of that concept we have already, in a damn row? :deadbanana2: Queendom is okay, FMR is one of their best, and yeah.

Also, we need Irene's solo as well.

 

and someone please hack SM and get Salty & Sweet on Spotify :jonny6:

 

They got their biggest hits with their Velvet concepts, I don't know why they're so afraid of giving us another R&B bop like Psycho or Bad Boy :deadbanana: Queendom and Birthday kinda flopped on the charts :rip:

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