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K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

This is part 1 of the K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive discussion.

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JYP doesn’t care about individual brand appeal. It’s not about miss A. Thel

7 minutes ago, Minori said:

idols individuals accounts are risky for companies since they can accidentally create a scandal, esp for rookies when they dont have a established fandom to back them

but itzy is a 4 year old group, atp jyp is just being outdated and undermining the girls potential as usual

You get cancelled for nothing in kpop atp. :deadbanana2:So an IG isn’t the end of the world.  
 

But Itzy aren’t renewing, and I expect NMIXX to do the same. 

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    some of the new members not giving new at all 

22 minutes ago, DelRey said:

This lie. Shotaro is like the best dancer in SM.

 

And Kai stood out in EXO because they are not great dancers.

EXO as 12 had a whole line-up of great dancers: Kai, Lay, Luhan, and Tao (Sehun was average but has grown since). From a technical standpoint, a lot of people deem Lay the best dancer of the group, so Kai being a standout wasn’t because the others weren’t great. He has an unrivaled stage presence as well, and I’m sure that will be highlighted with Shotaro as well. If not, it might be because the guy who was center for most of that performance video was also tugging wigs a bit :giraffe:

 

 

3 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

JYP doesn’t care about individual brand appeal. It’s not about miss A. Thel

You get cancelled for nothing in kpop atp. :deadbanana2:So an IG isn’t the end of the world.  
 

But Itzy aren’t renewing, and I expect NMIXX to do the same. 

fair :celestial5: but making idols post only on the group account makes it easier to control their image and helps more the groups brand than for the individual as you said, which is good for the company to make the idols more reliant on them

 

jyp did try to push twice individually back then even after suzy mess but then tzuyu politics happened. and they saw twice did just fine without major individual push :giraffe: 

 

kpop did change a lot and not every group is bts or twice that can survive relying only on group activities

Koreans react to SM new Boy Group… they share the same sentiments we do. The NCT shade is universal :rip:

 

Itzy will probably be able to get individual IGs in 2024, it'd be weird if they got it at the same time as their seniors, twice took 6 years and a half and skz well over 5  :bird:

13 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Koreans react to SM new Boy Group… they share the same sentiments we do. The NCT shade is universal :rip:

 

The Shotaro praise tho

I guess he DID that

 

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the riize song would’ve sounded MUCH better if they weren’t singing so… aggressively?

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TWICE in their 4th year:

 

 

ITZY in their 4th year:

 

 

Who did it better? Discuss.

 

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2 minutes ago, Flomik said:

TWICE in their 4th year:

 

 

ITZY in their 4th year:

 

 

Who did it better? Discuss.

 

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itzy gets dragged enough already :chick3:

RIIZE sounds and looks like everything we DON'T want it to be

I was so excited too

 

stop it with the excuses that it's 'just' a performance video

this is the first time the group releases something, they obviously want to show their vibe 

 

the noise, shouting and over the top dancing is something every BG since NCT is doing

boring!

Y'all care way too much about riice. SM isn't going to start taking notes until people stop giving a **** and don't check for their boy groups.

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@DelRey is this account reliable for Mexico concerts infos?

 

 

 

Yes, is accurate most of the time! Also a girl from a G.O. chat where I am told us like 1 month ago that they will be coming in November.

50 minutes ago, Minori said:

idols individuals accounts are risky for companies since they can accidentally create a scandal, esp for rookies when they dont have a established fandom to back them

but itzy is a 4 year old group, atp jyp is just being outdated and undermining the girls potential as usual

It took JYPig six whole years to give Twice individual accounts. Same with SKZ I think. That company is so out of touch with reality, we should stop with the Suzy/Miss A excuse for it now. I mean that was ages ago and they have to realize how important Instagram is for the engagement now and how the individual popularity can help the group considerably. for example, part of the reason why Blackpink was able to gain exposure to a bigger global audience so quickly was due to each member’s strong individual branding from the beginning. I’ll give my example: I was not aware of them during their debut up until 2018 and I got to know Jennie first through her solo endeavors which in return brought me to the group. There is no reason for JYPig to be this against Itzy individual power. Hope the girls can thrive nevertheless, thoughts and prayers. 
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2 minutes ago, DelRey said:

Yes, is accurate most of the time! Also a girl from a G.O. chat where I am told us like 1 month ago that they will be coming in November.

Thank you! 

A source for Chile concerts infos said they will be going to there in january, 2024 and only the venue was still being decided. 

It seems they will start their next world tour with LATAM. 

1 hour ago, CandyCoatedClouds said:

Me too, though I'm worried about Jay, he made be fluent but he's still rusty at English.

The sabotage is just tew much, I hope none of itzy re-signs with them after their initial contract ends.

I think Jay is fine conversationally. I mean he literally lived in America and attended an American school lol. That’s more than Minnie or Yuqi can say and they were pretty good in this interview regardless. Jay will be fine. 

2 hours ago, lily42 said:

misogynistic remarks about teenage girls and boy bands :deadbanana2:

 

some people are just the worst :bird:

It’s so funny watching you pretend to be a feminist after making a personality out of fake stanning NewJeans just so you can dunk on SM, which you only hate because you hate Taeyeon for being IU’s only second gen competition. There’s literal levels to your misogyny and you’re trying to pass it off like we all don’t see it :ahh: 

1 hour ago, Psycho said:

Kep1er is the biggest failure of the 4th gen.

 

Let's wake that tea up

And even they’re crossing 100k with every album. Do you know how refreshing it is a second gen stan to see last place clearing 100k? There used to be an article weekly about a new label that couldn’t afford to feed their members and now basically every idol is rich. Let’s wake that tea up.

3 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

Please, when has SKZ ever marketed themselves as a group selling "sex". When people think of Stray Kids they think of a rap focused group that produce their own music etc.

Yeah the SKZ members are some of the most sexualized male idols in the industry, but that's not because of their marketing cause the members don't even show much skin etc. apart from like 2 members only. Some of the members don't even engage in fan service :skull:

 

Some of you gg stans in here keep bringing up SKZ out of nowhere as if y'all can even name 5 songs from them, like just be quiet if you don't have a clue about a certain group :toofunny2:

 

Baby, even you hated their new music and only came to tolerate it after seeing their visuals and thirsting over every performance. The male groups are relying on selling their images and we can see that not only in their digital chart performance, but in the fact that none of their songs are leaving any impact on the general public the way Next Level, Love Dive, Hype Boy, etc. did. 
 

It’s also why their CDs keep getting thrown away after people pluck out the photocards. 

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1 hour ago, Flomik said:

I genuinely don't understand why some companies don't allow idols to have own IG accounts :rip:

This is so beneficial for the idol's own brand and they will become more visible to the sponsors and fashion companies => more profit for the company 

It allows them to control what’s out in the ethos. No company wants another Jay Park situation. Or to be more recent, let’s look at what’s happening with Kevin of The Boyz, blasting the company for not giving him writing credits. They’re not going to loosen the reigns until they believe they can fully trust you tbh. 

sm debuting a brand new bg and the're making them release nct rejects, i HAVE to laugh

 

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3 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

It took JYPig six whole years to give Twice individual accounts. Same with SKZ I think. That company is so out of touch with reality

JYP's reality is that they once had a perfectly functional girl group until one of the girls became such a star on her own that it prevented the group from functioning.  And recently, a couple of their just-debuted idols got caught fooling around with other idols through secret SNS accounts.  So in between not wanting any one member to outshine the group and a group almost being canceled just as it began, they have enough experience to determine it's just not worth it.  And only 40-year olds are on the ig, anyway.

 

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RAASH song sounds ****** awful, the name is awful, and the members are ugly

 

No group with those talentless NCT rejects was going to thrive

 

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2 minutes ago, mokitsu said:

RAASH song sounds ****** awful, the name is awful, and the members are ugly

 

No group with those talentless NCT rejects was going to thrive

 

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ive never read such a scathing review

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