her legendary work

14 minutes ago, fauxtography said:

Nah, hive had been quiet acting meek when Beyoncé started flopping as if they were the sweetest, most unproblematic base ever and the second that B7 thread opened started to show their true colors again. 
 

Anyways, even as an OBH she’s clearly a legend and it would be pretty dumb to think she didn’t have like 20 years of impact. 

You act as if this site isn't a cesspool with deranged stans everywhere.  

1 hour ago, Starshine said:

You act as if this site isn't a cesspool with deranged stans everywhere.  

Its especially rich coming from the Gaga base

She has released six main studio albums and never once missed the mark. She has been incredibly consistent, even her weak albums are still miles ahead of the rest. She build commercial strength during her DC years and first few solo years, and instead of continuing down that road, she chose to build a legacy and released two of the most important albums of all time, that broke down boundaries, are still referenced to this day and that opened up dialogues on universities around the world.

 

Not to mention that Beyoncé is the MOST referenced artist by other artists. Almost everyone mentions her as an inspiration. She lead the wave in the mid 2000s where R&B became less about vocals and more about showmanship, appeal, dance, and rhythm. She is a one of a kind performer and entertainer, and has taken everything her influences did and did it equally as great if not better.

 

Beyoncé is one of the very few women from her generation that can have a seat at the legends table. She’s done enough in her career to warrant it

Edited June 14, 20224 yr by Love Again

4 hours ago, sweetkiss said:

im sorry but I only know Single ladies

 

nobody remembers half of these ( i didnt even see them, wtf is sorry or hold up)

Now...u damn well know Crazy in Love at least too

 

2 hours ago, fauxtography said:

Bey is definitely a legend but the main issue is the Hive who believe she’s the only living legend. 

honestly I agrih

one of the fanbases that give recognition to other pop girls, the hardest

Before saying what makes her a legend, we must look at what is a legend: A legend is one who is widely renowned for their talent or skill, whose name precedes them, whose work has inspired and continues to impact artists and therefore culture, who has a reputation for a sort of excellence or artistic achievement that carries their legacy forward no matter how popular they were/are at any given moment.

 

 

BEYONCÉ is a legend with a 25 year career spanning multiple eras of success and artistic achievement. She is a one-of-a-kind artist whose skills (primarily on stage but also in the studio) are widely regarded and praised by critics, peers, and public alike. In the years since she released her first, landmark self-titled (surprise) visual album, her name alone carries with it the idea of excellence and singular accomplishment. In life and on reality competitions of any sort (from drag to glass-blowing to baking) you will often hear someone refer to themselevs as "the Beyoncé of [industry]". That simple statement says so much. This alone does not make her a legend, but it points to the use of her name to denote more than just what's she's done, but what she represents in culture and how people see her and then use her name as an adjective or figure of speech.

 

She has achieved success in music, film, fashion, and television.  She won a Peabody, one of the most prestigious awards of all. She has set records, impacted generations, had decades of hits with parallel careers. What perhaps is most remarkable about her is that unlike many, the quality of her work as a whole has increased with time, and she was able to take herself from an icon to legend by putting a focus on artistic achievement, not popular success.

If Beyoncé is not a legend, then no one from her generation is.

10 hours ago, Mr. Specialist said:

 

 

100% agreed. I’ve said this too. At this point, we would be disrespecting ourselves by even taking the time to arguing with people on here who obviously belong in a psychiatric hospital. 
 

16 hours ago, bocelli said:

People love to call her one but what is her impact, her influence?

Her influence has extended to global icons such as Rihanna, Adele, Lady Gaga, Lizzo, Ariana Grande, Doja Cat and many more.

 

16 hours ago, bocelli said:

She has decent album sales, but most her peers have at least 1 album that is bigger (Kelly, Britney, Avril). 

Album sales have never made a legend or else Aretha Franklin wouldn't be considered a legend.

 

16 hours ago, bocelli said:

She has a lot of hits, but for most of them she had to rely on remixes and features.

In fact, her biggest U.S. hit to date was the ten-consecutive-week #1 hit Irreplaceable which also became the Year-End #1 hit of 2007.

Her most streamed song is Halo.

Perhaps her signature hit insofar as cultural ubquitity is Single Ladies.

 

16 hours ago, bocelli said:

Did she come up with a new musical direction?

Her use of rap-sung staccato singing, though not her personal invention, was popularized by Destiny's Child, launching a new musical direction in pop which still lives on today. Everyone from Britney to Rihanna to Drake to Cardi B to Little Mix have taken it on. You can note this immediate change in pop using Jennifer Lopez as an example. In 1999 she released her debut single, If You Had My Love. After Bills, Bills, Bills went #1 that same year, J.Lo returned to music for her second album with a lead single that now suddenly scrapped the melodic singing for a chorus with a fast-sung, staccato style, Love Don't Cost A Thing in 2000.

 

16 hours ago, bocelli said:

Does she have iconic dances like Moonwalk?

 

16 hours ago, bocelli said:

Did she start movements with her music, her image?

Here is a short list of everyone who has either surprise released or made a visual album after 2013, spanning genres:

• Justin Timberlake
• Drake
• Rihanna
• Lady Gaga
• Katy Perry
• Miley Cyrus
• Ariana Grande
• Taylor Swift
• Post Malone
• Lorde
• Demi Lovato
• Eminem
• One Direction
• Wiz Khalifa
• Jason Aldean
• Kendrick Lamar
• Frank Ocean
• Billie Eilish
• Young Thug
• Quavo
• J Cole
• Stormzy
• DJ Khaled
• Solange
• Tamar Braxton
• Adam Lambert
• Tame Impala
• Brockhampton
• Jeezy
• N.E.R.D.
• AFI
• Skrillex
• Niall Horan
   

Not to mention the waves of artists branded as Beyocné 2.0s in the mid-2000s such as Christina Milian, Amerie, Rihanna, Ciara (to an extent), etc.

Not to mention the impact of the sound of DC (which she was largely responsible for) on girl-groups that would follow such as Little Mix and Fifth Harmony, both of whom cite DC as a major influence.

Not to mention the many Lemonade 2.0's that would come out after, including Kacey Musgraves Star-Crossed visual album (not mentioned above).

Not to mention the impact of Crazy in Love, after which songs started having brassier, sassier instrumentals such as 1 Thing, Get Right, and even less known songs like Katharine McPhee's Love Story.

 

16 hours ago, bocelli said:

Does she have iconic MVs like Wrecking Ball or Montero?

 

 

16 hours ago, bocelli said:

Does she have iconic outfits like Meat Dress or the Jungle Dress?

It sounds like you're describing what defines an icon here yes, her Single Ladies outfit, her Coachella outfit, her Hold Up outfit, her Super Bowl (Formation) outfit, etc. These are all highly recognizable.

 

16 hours ago, bocelli said:

With all that, what makes Beyonce a legend? What is her mark on pop culture, what is her artistic identity? 

• Beyoncé, like the legend Diana Ross, has impacted pop culture not just as the lead singer of one of the most successful and iconic girl groups of all time, but as a solo artist too.
  • This matters because it shows impact continuing between two different career paths, and points to the longevity and importance of the artist in that they were able to lead a group and a solo career to cultural impact and success.
  • In Beyoncé's case, her solo work has exceeded the popularity of Destiny's Child
• Beyoncé's lyrics have impacted culture several times, putting often used and repeated catchphrases into the cultural lexicon (like "I woke up like this", as just one example).
  • Twice, Beyoncé's lyrics have contributed to new words being added to the dictionary, a very rare thing for a popstar to do:
    • "Bootylicious", 2004
    • "Bama", 2016
• Beyoncé has three of the most acclaimed pop albums of all time: BEYONCÉ, Lemonade, Homecoming (Live)
• Crazy in Love is often regarded as one of the best songs of the 2000s, placing #1 on several year-end lists, as well as topping Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Song of the 21st Century - So Far
• The subject matter of Destiny's Child: bold female financial and sexual automony has become a mainstay of pop feminism inspiring everyone from Rihanna to Ariana Grande
  • Her use of feminism in her solo career in works such as Run the World and ***Flawless has helped redefine the public's idea of feminism, taking it from a "bad word" to one proudly worn.
    • Big stars such as Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga who once did not claim the word feminist, now do after 2013.
• Beyoncé is largely credited with popularizing the visual album as a form of popular media in the years since 2013
• Beyoncé is largely credited with popularizing the surprise release since 2013, and in doing so has very much changed the trajectory of the industry marketing and redefined the purpose and role of an album in the streaming era.
• Beyoncé's performing style is widely iconic and she is often regarded as the performer of her generation
• Beyoncé's singing style and her specific kinds of runs are very singular to her, and makes up an artistic identity that not many replicate
• Beyoncé's promotion of Black Pride across the latter part of the 2010s is hugely influential. Her work often acts both a form of empowerment and, as an A-List popstar, a sort of litmus test revealing the true feelings of the general public about raise. This has inspired praise and hate alike.
• Even superficially, one reference in the lyric of a song she did not release to streaming, to radio, or for sale caused a chain restaurant (Red Lobster) to see a 33% increase in sales the weekend of the song's release.

 

I could go on but... this is more than enough.

 

 

 

Her excellence.

her songwriting skills

 

 

4 hours ago, swissman said:

Her influence has extended to global icons such as Rihanna, Adele, Lady Gaga, Lizzo, Ariana Grande, Doja Cat and many more.

 

Album sales have never made a legend or else Aretha Franklin wouldn't be considered a legend.

 

In fact, her biggest U.S. hit to date was the ten-consecutive-week #1 hit Irreplaceable which also became the Year-End #1 hit of 2007.

Her most streamed song is Halo.

Perhaps her signature hit insofar as cultural ubquitity is Single Ladies.

 

Her use of rap-sung staccato singing, though not her personal invention, was popularized by Destiny's Child, launching a new musical direction in pop which still lives on today. Everyone from Britney to Rihanna to Drake to Cardi B to Little Mix have taken it on. You can note this immediate change in pop using Jennifer Lopez as an example. In 1999 she released her debut single, If You Had My Love. After Bills, Bills, Bills went #1 that same year, J.Lo returned to music for her second album with a lead single that now suddenly scrapped the melodic singing for a chorus with a fast-sung, staccato style, Love Don't Cost A Thing in 2000.

 

 

Here is a short list of everyone who has either surprise released or made a visual album after 2013, spanning genres:

• Justin Timberlake
• Drake
• Rihanna
• Lady Gaga
• Katy Perry
• Miley Cyrus
• Ariana Grande
• Taylor Swift
• Post Malone
• Lorde
• Demi Lovato
• Eminem
• One Direction
• Wiz Khalifa
• Jason Aldean
• Kendrick Lamar
• Frank Ocean
• Billie Eilish
• Young Thug
• Quavo
• J Cole
• Stormzy
• DJ Khaled
• Solange
• Tamar Braxton
• Adam Lambert
• Tame Impala
• Brockhampton
• Jeezy
• N.E.R.D.
• AFI
• Skrillex
• Niall Horan
   

Not to mention the waves of artists branded as Beyocné 2.0s in the mid-2000s such as Christina Milian, Amerie, Rihanna, Ciara (to an extent), etc.

Not to mention the impact of the sound of DC (which she was largely responsible for) on girl-groups that would follow such as Little Mix and Fifth Harmony, both of whom cite DC as a major influence.

Not to mention the many Lemonade 2.0's that would come out after, including Kacey Musgraves Star-Crossed visual album (not mentioned above).

Not to mention the impact of Crazy in Love, after which songs started having brassier, sassier instrumentals such as 1 Thing, Get Right, and even less known songs like Katharine McPhee's Love Story.

 

 

 

It sounds like you're describing what defines an icon here yes, her Single Ladies outfit, her Coachella outfit, her Hold Up outfit, her Super Bowl (Formation) outfit, etc. These are all highly recognizable.

 

• Beyoncé, like the legend Diana Ross, has impacted pop culture not just as the lead singer of one of the most successful and iconic girl groups of all time, but as a solo artist too.
  • This matters because it shows impact continuing between two different career paths, and points to the longevity and importance of the artist in that they were able to lead a group and a solo career to cultural impact and success.
  • In Beyoncé's case, her solo work has exceeded the popularity of Destiny's Child
• Beyoncé's lyrics have impacted culture several times, putting often used and repeated catchphrases into the cultural lexicon (like "I woke up like this", as just one example).
  • Twice, Beyoncé's lyrics have contributed to new words being added to the dictionary, a very rare thing for a popstar to do:
    • "Bootylicious", 2004
    • "Bama", 2016
• Beyoncé has three of the most acclaimed pop albums of all time: BEYONCÉ, Lemonade, Homecoming (Live)
• Crazy in Love is often regarded as one of the best songs of the 2000s, placing #1 on several year-end lists, as well as topping Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Song of the 21st Century - So Far
• The subject matter of Destiny's Child: bold female financial and sexual automony has become a mainstay of pop feminism inspiring everyone from Rihanna to Ariana Grande
  • Her use of feminism in her solo career in works such as Run the World and ***Flawless has helped redefine the public's idea of feminism, taking it from a "bad word" to one proudly worn.
    • Big stars such as Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga who once did not claim the word feminist, now do after 2013.
• Beyoncé is largely credited with popularizing the visual album as a form of popular media in the years since 2013
• Beyoncé is largely credited with popularizing the surprise release since 2013, and in doing so has very much changed the trajectory of the industry marketing and redefined the purpose and role of an album in the streaming era.
• Beyoncé's performing style is widely iconic and she is often regarded as the performer of her generation
• Beyoncé's singing style and her specific kinds of runs are very singular to her, and makes up an artistic identity that not many replicate
• Beyoncé's promotion of Black Pride across the latter part of the 2010s is hugely influential. Her work often acts both a form of empowerment and, as an A-List popstar, a sort of litmus test revealing the true feelings of the general public about raise. This has inspired praise and hate alike.
• Even superficially, one reference in the lyric of a song she did not release to streaming, to radio, or for sale caused a chain restaurant (Red Lobster) to see a 33% increase in sales the weekend of the song's release.

 

I could go on but... this is more than enough.

 

 

 

Im always amazed at how you know about Beyonce. 

The receipts speak for themselves.

SHE

She is the moment, she is the grandness, she is the talent, the perfomer.

 

Thats why legend Madonna loves her, she knows greatness and legendariness when she sees it.