1 minute ago, Weeaboo said:

Yes that’s with SM approval. I don’t think you understand that it all stems back with SM approval. Both Amber and Victoria both got the approval. Just like Lay and that nct guy. So yes Jessica could have gotten approval to take the break with SM approval. 
 

It’s almost like talking to a wall. It’s almost like you dead ass took her book as the truth and ran with it  no wonder you’re writing post like “the girls were jealous of Jessica’s business” 

What idol do you know from SM who was allowed to "take a break" from their activities, except for health reasons? No one. 

 

Not to mention the whole "she wanted to take a break from SNSD" is fake. I asked you why she immediately began working on a solo album if she wanted to prioritize fashion and leave music but you have no answer. 

 

I think the wall is you. Unfortunately some people are so set on Jessica being this evil villain and blaming her for all kinds of things that you can't really see what's going on. 

 

The book is fiction (based on a true story), but the storyline does not contradict anything that we know publicly. However, the things you are suggesting are true, DO contradict. 

 

13 minutes ago, Zack said:

What idol do you know from SM who was allowed to "take a break" from their activities, except for health reasons? No one. 

 

Not to mention the whole "she wanted to take a break from SNSD" is fake. I asked you why she immediately began working on a solo album if she wanted to prioritize fashion and leave music but you have no answer. 

 

I think the wall is you. Unfortunately some people are so set on Jessica being this evil villain and blaming her for all kinds of things that you can't really see what's going on. 

 

The book is fiction (based on a true story), but the storyline does not contradict anything that we know publicly. However, the things you are suggesting are true, DO contradict. 

The topic was of SM would allow things and you brought up contracts that SM has allowed while the idol is still signed to them. And I told you all of those contracts because SM allowed them. So it’s not wild to imagine that Jessica and SM had a agreement and something happened for the agreement to break and for her to be kicked out. 
 

No one is seeing Jessica as evil, but we do see her as a false narrator when she makes her character the perfect saint and all the girls are jealous of her and out to get her. And then saying the only reason they get deals and not her is because they sleep with higher ups. It makes her whole story sound nothing but a hit piece no matter how you spin it. Because none of the girls have talked about Jessica. 

You can’t just write all of that and expect people to take you seriously. 

 

Edited May 15, 20224 yr by Weeaboo

3 minutes ago, Weeaboo said:

The topic was of SM would allow things and you brought up contracts that SM has allowed while the idol is still signed to them. And I told you all of those contracts because SM allowed them. So it’s not wild to imagine that Jessica and SM had a agreement and something happened for the agreement to break and for her to be kicked out. 
 

No one is seeing Jessica as evil, but we do see her as a false narrator when she makes her character the perfect saint and all the girls are jealous of her and out to get her. And then saying the only reason they get deals and not her is because they sleep with higher ups. It makes her whole story sound nothing but a hit piece no matter how you spin it. Because none of the girls have talked about Jessica. 

You can’t just write all of that and expect people to take you seriously. 

 

Because it's one thing to allow for a side business or overseas management contract (which they have allowed before, as I mentioned) and a totally different thing to allow a total "break" from the group which is what you are saying SM approved (when it's something they never allowed before). Why would Jessica be treated differently from everyone else? There's no evidence that she was planning a break. 

 

The book is dramatized for fiction. But once again, I'm going to say that the storyline in book 2 never contradicts what we know publicly. Many false statements were released since her departure which have since been disproven. But nothing about the way the book suggests things happened has been contradicted, even now, 8 years later. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know, I don't know what will. 

 

 

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Just now, Somi said:

 

wait 

top 20

 

#ThankYouGaram

 Is this shaping up to be HYBE’s biggest digital hit in a while? (Not counting BTS singles) 

bullyram impact! they should've left soojin in griddle 

24 minutes ago, Zack said:

Because it's one thing to allow for a side business or overseas management contract (which they have allowed before, as I mentioned) and a totally different thing to allow a total "break" from the group which is what you are saying SM approved (when it's something they never allowed before). Why would Jessica be treated differently from everyone else? There's no evidence that she was planning a break. 

 

The book is dramatized for fiction. But once again, I'm going to say that the storyline in book 2 never contradicts what we know publicly. Many false statements were released since her departure which have since been disproven. But nothing about the way the book suggests things happened has been contradicted, even now, 8 years later. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know, I don't know what will. 

 

But what are your thoughts on Jessica painting herself as the perfect girl while painting the others as devils, like don't you think that's freaky  fishy like a tank I'ma and mean coming from her  because no matter how much you call it fiction, it is well known that most people will take every word it says as true as she is the only one that has spoken about that issue. If she really needs to talk about this she could do it publicy outside of korea and drop names so each of the girls has a chance to defend themselves or you think this speculation about Sooyoung being the mastermind behind Jessica's departure isn't toxic to the fans and to the girls, and all the other rumors that book has spread.

Edited May 16, 20224 yr by MusicFan98

8 minutes ago, Somi said:

 Is this shaping up to be HYBE’s biggest digital hit in a while? (Not counting BTS singles) 

Queen Garam is coming to end the girls if the mess goes on though

17 minutes ago, Somi said:

 

wait 

Huh, they are up in the morning, and not in the zombie hours?

What is this? 

its probably because of their presence in knowing bros over the weekend nnn

Edited May 16, 20224 yr by Antunes

Promo actually working 

2 hours ago, MusicFan98 said:

I wish the other girls could give their versions of events like this is all about "Rachel" and eight other faceless girls who focused their lives on torturing the poor girl, star of the group who literally never did something bad.

The girls have though, if people can read between the lines. Like Hyoyeon multiple times said that they get to be where they are because of the members consideration and sacrifice, and that now they don't have 'difficult' members.

 

It's quite clear during that time, the girls considered Jessica personal endeavours which can ultimately hinder the groups 'marketability' was not being considerate to the team. Them working on their radio, drama and film have 0 negative impacts towards the group's marketability to companies. While the fashion company, was a big potential for conflict of interest.
 

Not trying to drag separate idols into this, but is there any idols out there who is a CEO, creative producer of a fashion company whilst active in their group? Most of the fashion line that idols worked on are collaboration with other brands, and even some like Jennie with her NIEEH brand is still being secretive about it.

 

Aside from that even Jessica admitted in her fictional book that she did miss out and was not focused on a lot of their group meetings and rehearsals. I imagine the perception from the other 8 pov would be even worse, since even the 'angel Rachel' admitted that problem.

 

 

Garam winning and Korea losing!!! Are we dreaming?

10 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said:

But what are your thoughts on Jessica painting herself as the perfect girl while painting the others as devils, like don't you think that's freaky  fishy like a tank I'ma and mean coming from her  because no matter how much you call it fiction, it is well known that most people will take every word it says as true as she is the only one that has spoken about that issue. If she really needs to talk about this she could do it publicy outside of korea and drop names so each of the girls has a chance to defend themselves or you think this speculation about Sooyoung being the mastermind behind Jessica's departure isn't toxic to the fans and to the girls, and all the other rumors that book has spread.

Honestly if someone told me on TV (even as a joke) that I was only popular with old men I'd be bitter for the rest of my life too 

23 minutes ago, Sailor Venus said:

bullyram impact! they should've left soojin in griddle 

Garam is pretty and lowers Lesseriljin's average age.

 

6 minutes ago, Shou7 said:

Honestly if someone told me on TV (even as a joke) that I was only popular with old men I'd be bitter for the rest of my life too 

Why though, old men serve the best Deveryone knows that, or is it just me?

11 minutes ago, harrythevifan said:

Garam is pretty and lowers Lesseriljin's average age.

 

Soojin is pretty too! 

29 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said:

But what are your thoughts on Jessica painting herself as the perfect girl while painting the others as devils, like don't you think that's freaky  fishy like a tank I'ma and mean coming from her  because no matter how much you call it fiction, it is well known that most people will take every word it says as true as she is the only one that has spoken about that issue. If she really needs to talk about this she could do it publicy outside of korea and drop names so each of the girls has a chance to defend themselves or you think this speculation about Sooyoung being the mastermind behind Jessica's departure isn't toxic to the fans and to the girls, and all the other rumors that book has spread.

She doesn't paint herself as "perfect" in the book and she doesn't paint the girls as "devils" either. She literally calls them "sisters" and says she will always cherish/look back fondly on her time in the group. Not exactly calling them devils. 

 

Also the people blaming her for the "conflict of interest", that's not her fault, it's SM and the other members'/parents' fault. As far as she was concerned, she told the members about her business from day 1, way way before it launched, and she got permission to start the business from SM...twice! They had many opportunities to stop the business going ahead, but the members/parents waited until she had locked in investment contracts and then forced her to choose, when it was too late. 

 

And well, none of them can really discuss this situation directly in public, because there would be lawsuits. 

 

Garam's power  

1 hour ago, Somi said:

 

wait 

erm... i guess garam is staying

 

38 minutes ago, Somi said:

Soojin is pretty too! 

@Gaia can confirm

1 hour ago, Somi said:

 

wait 

Not this shaping up to be HYBE’s biggest digital single outside of BTS songs 

 

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