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Lady Gaga

This is part 1 of the Lady Gaga discussion.

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21 minutes ago, helpthomas said:

prove me wrong if you really need to prove a point

ARTPOP app. it had a literal countdown to nothing. 

6 minutes ago, Azealia Banks said:

4 hrs 33 minutes! 

Sexy, confident :suburban:

Just now, Uncatena said:

ARTPOP app. it had a literal countdown to nothing. 

why would you combine those two words
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Just now, PMM said:

why would you combine those two words
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the way you could be talking about "ARTPOP app" and "countdown to nothing"

If the single is still coming in October she better announce it by Sunday for the latest. I don't see how they team doesn't understand she needs to build hype for a bit before the release.

11 minutes ago, Uncatena said:

ARTPOP app. it had a literal countdown to nothing. 

now... :bibliahh:

4 minutes ago, Uncatena said:

ARTPOP app. it had a literal countdown to nothing. 

Release of the Bad Romance video got delayed as well. Delay announcement was made exactly when it was supposed to premiere on YouTube/Gaga's website. 

 

:suburban:

I think 10-14 days would have been a good amount of teasing time, if she took the time up posting some promo pics, a snippet or two (that hopefully would have got some buzz with reposts) and some video teasing closer to the release date.

 

A timeframe that still works for the 25th, but to be honest, I don't want to wait until then.

 

:khalyan2:

41 minutes ago, duybeeGAshantiGA said:

It's kinda sad but I agree with this wholeheartedly and I have seen it with my own eyes. I have been a stan since Just Dance and I live in the biggest city of my country. I have been particupating in offline activities of the LM base here so I have seen all the shifts. 

 

LMs used to be the biggest and strongest base around her first 2-3 eras. Things started to get "shaky" once ARTPOP striked all the way through Joanne and Cheek to Cheek. Members started to drop when every era passed. She picked up a few new fans during ASIB but that's nothing compared to the earlier base. With Chromatica it kept things just a bit stable but that did not hold for so long. 

 

I mean we found it hard to fill a small cinema venue for Joker 2 last week :skeleton: when we used to even hire a small arena-like venues for our very first offline meetings durimng TFM/BTW. 

 

I an lucky to remain a stan now. 

 

But yeah I have seen many success stans move on to stan for other artists like Taylor, Olivia, Billie, Sab, etc. Some of the fans, on the other hand, moved on from pop cultures and only care about their personal lives now.

 

That's just how it is.  If she keeps doing this, the number of stans will start to keep dropping (it may not even be a matter for some people tho so it depends), but it will result in cases like the Harlequin's numbers.

 

I have to agree with y'all. But I think this era could really bring a lot of new younger fans and old fans back if things go well. I just want her to give her best and not give up so quickly like with Chromatica... that era really hurt our fanbase.

One reason I think this era could do that is because her earlier music is being stanned HARD by the younger generation. If she gives a great era I think those casual listeners could be drawn in to become actual fans. One interesting thing I've noticed recently is how her subbreddit absolutely exploded in the last few months. She used to sit under 300k and is now nearing 500k. This makes her one of the popstars with the largest reddits, and she has plenty of fan forums to add on top. 

If she gives us another lukewarm era thoough then yeah I think sadly the dwindling trajectory will continue...

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Edited by SweetOreosOfHeaven

In other news, Close to GOD is now also picking up steam on TikTok. :jonnycat:

28 minutes ago, Lord Gaga said:

If the single is still coming in October she better announce it by Sunday for the latest. I don't see how they team doesn't understand she needs to build hype for a bit before the release.

Why does she need hype?

 

DWAS was released with little to no hype, got good placement on Spotify, and is smashing on all fronts. 

 

If the music is good and enough people hear it the first couple of days, hype or no hype, it'll find its way.

9 minutes ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

One reason I think this era could do that is because her earlier music is being stanned HARD by the younger generation.

Say it louder tbh. I'm genuinely surprised at how younger gen Z (and gen alpha, I think?) actually like her older catalogue, especially her heavier and "darker" bops. If the right lead is picked, and it picks up on social media, it will be a smash. Those JJK Judas and Government Hooker edits go viral for nothing! And with Bloody Mary picking up, I wouldn't be shocked if she ends this month with 7-8 songs doing 1 million daily streams. 

1 minute ago, Dämon said:

Why does she need hype?

 

DWAS was released with little to no hype, got good placement on Spotify, and is smashing on all fronts. 

 

If the music is good and enough people hear it the first couple of days, hype or no hype, it'll find its way.

hearing that lady gaga and bruno mars, two of the biggest artists of the late 2000s/early 2010s, had a collab together is enough hype as it is. solo music is a different ballgame for Gaga. She needs to garner interest from casual fans and the gp. 

36 minutes ago, Uncatena said:

the way you could be talking about "ARTPOP app" and "countdown to nothing"

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I still remember my poor iphone4 crashed when I downloaded that 400MB ARTPOP app. :toofunny3: 

13 minutes ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

I have to agree with y'all. But I think this era could really bring a lot of new younger fans and old fans back if things go well. I just want her to give her best and not give up so quickly like with Chromatica... that era really hurt our fanbase.

One reason I think this era could do that is because her earlier music is being stanned HARD by the younger generation. If she gives a great era I think those casual listeners could be drawn in to become actual fans. One interesting thing I've noticed recently is how her subbreddit absolutely exploded in the last few months. She used to sit under 300k and is now nearing 500k. This makes her one of the popstars with the largest reddits, and she has plenty of fan forums to add on top. 

If she gives us another lukewarm era thoough then yeah I think sadly the dwindling trajectory will continue...

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The way it is so clear that she is having DWAS and Harlequin at the same time doing exactly opposite things (1 is smashing HARD and the other is flopping HARD), meaning if she chooses the right path she can be suprr successful, on the other hand, I dont want to imagine..

 

6 minutes ago, Dämon said:

Why does she need hype?

 

DWAS was released with little to no hype, got good placement on Spotify, and is smashing on all fronts. 

 

If the music is good and enough people hear it the first couple of days, hype or no hype, it'll find its way.

DWAS is a lightning-in-a-bottle moment, largely fueled by older, casual listeners. A dark pop song won't achieve the same success without strong promotion/hype. The audience for her upcoming lead single differs from the demographic driving DWAS's success.

Edited by opbranden

5 minutes ago, Edonis said:

Say it louder tbh. I'm genuinely surprised at how younger gen Z (and gen alpha, I think?) actually like her older catalogue, especially her heavier and "darker" bops. If the right lead is picked, and it picks up on social media, it will be a smash. Those JJK Judas and Government Hooker edits go viral for nothing! And with Bloody Mary picking up, I wouldn't be shocked if she ends this month with 7-8 songs doing 1 million daily streams. 

That's definitely the best case scenario but it depends on whether or not the music is a) brought to awareness and b) connects with that larger audience. This is why announcing 3 days in advance with little hype-building doesnt seem like a good plan... she could still announce this weekend or release on the 25th though.

3 minutes ago, opbranden said:

DWAS is a lightning-in-a-bottle moment, largely fueled by older, casual listeners. A pop song won't achieve the same success without strong promotion/hype. The audience for her upcoming lead single differs from the demographic driving DWAS's success.

Also I'm sure Gaga's comeback pop single will try to achieve more when it comes to debut. DWAS ended up smashing but the debut wasn't particularly impressive. I think they should aim higher.

I feel like the effect of building up hype is a bit overrated, ngl. 
 

i don't think anyone except stans care about the teasing or the insta posts or whatever strategies people use nowadays. 
 

it's more about good placement on playlists, and I really don't see how the placement is impacted by the hype pre release

Just now, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

That's definitely the best case scenario but it depends on whether or not the music is a) brought to awareness and b) connects with that larger audience. This is why announcing 3 days in advance with little hype-building doesnt seem like a good plan... she could still announce this weekend or release on the 25th though.

Agreed. She's been out of pop music for 4 years and lowkey even longer for pop culture. She needs to draw (positive) attention back to her when readying her solo release. Unfortunately, Joker wasn't what is should have been, but that doesn't necessarily spell a looking disaster, so long as enough interest is drummed up. 

9 minutes ago, Hexchromatica said:

ArtHaus_gif_010.gif

 

oh GOD the (bad) nostalgia... I think I used that app for 30 minutes and then deleted it lmfao

so what are we expecting in terms of visuals? do we think she will have (partially) dark hair and maybe even a black and white theme? 

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