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Lady Gaga

This is part 1 of the Lady Gaga discussion.

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10.6M views, 501k likes in 24 hours for the main upload. Pretty solid start despite the warning label affecting the view count.

 

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14 minutes ago, Jessie said:

Yeah it's hard to make apples to apples comparisons as the movie industry is so different now but Barbara Streisand was one of the biggest marquee names of New Hollywood, lead box office smashes across different genres and decades (not to mention her multiple soundtrack smashes) before shifting to directing, becoming only the third female director to ever be nominated for Best Picture back in the 90s. She even has an iconic swing and miss with Hello Dolly! that effectively sank the big budget traditional movie musical as a reliable box office draw on release. 

 

 

It's a truly iconic career and it's big that Gaga is even being compared so early in her transition to film, and racking up as many noms as she has so far.


Cher also did far more movies than Gaga has in a similar time frame, as well having an initial failed attempt a decade before, earning her salt on Broadway before her string of successes in the 80s. So while her career in film slowed down after her Oscar win, she had put in years of work before that capstone (and she was in three movies the year she won, including The Witches of Eastwick — the kind of studio system, movie star hustle that Gaga has carefully tip toed around so far while building her credibility).

 

But yes, Gaga becoming this big a draw in the modern era has never really been done by a popstar which is why so many people are itching to see her fail.

 

The only other star that was shaping up to potentially make that kind of cultural shift was Madonna with a string of decent gigs, but Hollywood never warmed to her fully as an actress, the climate was less forgiving (treated like a punching bag by the Razzies), she had more misses than hits and she struggled to build on what success she did have, and by the 00s the door was shut.

 

The closest modern contemporary in terms of movie stardom for a pop star is Jennifer Lopez. Before Gaga she was the biggest example, but she again built her career in a different climate in the 90s / 00s on mid to low budget rom coms and thrillers.

 

 

Thanks! What an informative and enlightening post! Appreciate you giving so many details.

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2 minutes ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

10.6M views, 501k likes in 24 hours for the main upload. Pretty solid start despite the warning label affecting the view count.

 

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Miss @Marry Illusion Glory won as usual. :clap3:

I've always maintained that what sets Gaga apart from the rest of the popstar-actress hybrids is her commercial scale.

 

J-Lo, Cher, Barbra, etc had their respective musical success but (respectfully) not only has Gaga cleared them commercially, she's still commercially viable enough to keep going.

 

Hell, Gaga snatching a Best Actress nom on her first role set her apart well enough. JFAD isn't out yet but based on the trailer, she's about to extend her streak of flawless acting and acclaimed films.

 

Is it bad that I'm already looking forward to her next film/role? It probably won't be announced until summer 2025 like with JFAD.

 

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Off topic but on the topic of Barbra, when I first watched this clip on twitter I was so amazed. Switching from a director to an actor at the snap of a finger without being fazed, especially during an intense scene like this is insane. No one touches her.

 

13 hours ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

 

 

 

A masterclass in cinematography. Even the GP agrees.

 

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noT 200k likes :wanda:

can't wait for the second trailer and the premiere is happening in Venice?????

5 minutes ago, Aden said:

I've always maintained that what sets Gaga apart from the rest of the popstar-actress hybrids is her commercial scale.

 

J-Lo, Cher, Barbra, etc had their respective musical success but (respectfully) not only has Gaga cleared them commercially, she's still commercially viable enough to keep going.

 

Hell, Gaga snatching a Best Actress nom on her first role set her apart well enough. JFAD isn't out yet but based on the trailer, she's about to extend her streak of flawless acting and acclaimed films.

 

Comparing box office in terms of pure numbers is hard to do when their careers are in completely different eras of Hollywood but I agree we are witnessing Gaga trailblazing right now; it's exciting to think where this movie is about to take her, and what she will do after.

1 hour ago, Vroom Vroom said:

It was never going to win SOTY, unless they replaced Shallow with it in the 2019 Grammys. In the 2020 Grammys where it was actually nominated, Interscope invested everything they had for a Billie sweep 

 

Shallow becoming a massive hit that charted for over 40 weeks and ARUTW becoming a streaming hit with no investment was a great outcome 

I would win and be another #1 smash for her. :gaycat2: 
 

The final outcome was great but it could have been even bigger.

40 minutes ago, Blade Runner said:

Miss @Marry Illusion Glory won as usual. :clap3:

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27 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

Is it bad that I'm already looking forward to her next film/role? It probably won't be announced until summer 2025 like with JFAD.

 

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I do wonder how much time she will give to LG7 and a potential tour if she wants another movie on her calendar. And if she is already circling a role or is waiting to negotiate something after Joker releases.

 

Or maybe she plans on taking a break.

 

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I do not think any of us are truly prepared for how big this is going to be. It just has all the hallmarks of what makes a blockbuster like this a hit. It is going to be a couples movie, an incel movie, a black movie, a white movie, a gay movie, a straight movie... It is going to bring everyone together. :jonny: 

She needs to do a small project next. Her own A24 movie. 

 

Please, GODGA. 

Love seeing the base happy again. Can we all just take a moment to digest the fact that NONE of Gaga's peers have EVER had a moment as big as JFAD is about to be? If they play their cards right, this can be a $250M opener WW. That's INSANE for a pop star on her 3rd starring role, nvm how much else she's already accomplished with her illustrious music career. Can't wait for this ride… less than 6 months to go & many more exciting events to come in between 
 

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4 minutes ago, frankvert said:

Love seeing the base happy again. Can we all just take a moment to digest the fact that NONE of Gaga's peers have EVER had a moment as big as JFAD is about to be? If they play their cards right, this can be a $250M opener WW. That's INSANE for a pop star on her 3rd starring role, nvm how much else she's already accomplished with her illustrious music career. Can't wait for this ride… less than 6 months to go & many more exciting events to come in between 
 

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I keep trying to articulate what a momentous occasion this is and I just can not put it into words. :jonny:  Popstars typically only get roles because of their name or to be a quick cameo... this is truly unprecedented among her peers.

8 minutes ago, frankvert said:

Love seeing the base happy again. Can we all just take a moment to digest the fact that NONE of Gaga's peers have EVER had a moment as big as JFAD is about to be? If they play their cards right, this can be a $250M opener WW. That's INSANE for a pop star on her 3rd starring role, nvm how much else she's already accomplished with her illustrious music career. Can't wait for this ride… less than 6 months to go & many more exciting events to come in between 
 

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Yep and that's why so many try to discredit and belittle her achievements, quick to say "but let's talk about her MUSIC career". Gaga is and will always be that girl. 

1 hour ago, Jessie said:

Yeah it's hard to make apples to apples comparisons as the movie industry is so different now but Barbara Streisand was one of the biggest marquee names of New Hollywood, lead box office smashes across different genres and decades (not to mention her multiple soundtrack smashes) before shifting to directing, becoming only the third female director to ever be nominated for Best Picture back in the 90s. She even has an iconic swing and miss with Hello Dolly! that effectively sank the big budget traditional movie musical as a reliable box office draw on release. 

 

 

It's a truly iconic career and it's big that Gaga is even being compared so early in her transition to film, and racking up as many noms as she has so far.


Cher also did far more movies than Gaga has in a similar time frame, as well having an initial failed attempt a decade before, earning her salt on Broadway before her string of successes in the 80s. So while her career in film slowed down after her Oscar win, she had put in years of work before that capstone (and she was in three movies the year she won, including The Witches of Eastwick — the kind of studio system, movie star hustle that Gaga has carefully tip toed around so far while building her credibility).

 

But yes, Gaga becoming this big a draw in the modern era has never really been done by a popstar which is why so many people are itching to see her fail.

 

The only other star that was shaping up to potentially make that kind of cultural shift was Madonna with a string of decent gigs, but Hollywood never warmed to her fully as an actress, the climate was less forgiving (treated like a punching bag by the Razzies), she had more misses than hits and she struggled to build on what success she did have, and by the 00s the door was shut.

 

The closest modern contemporary in terms of movie stardom for a pop star is Jennifer Lopez. Before Gaga she was the biggest example, but she again built her career in a different climate in the 90s / 00s on mid to low budget rom coms and thrillers.

 

 

J Lo is also a little different because she established herself as an actress before a pop star. It's actually hard to think of any pop star or musical artist in decades who has established themselves as not only being an acclaimed actor but also a movie star in the way Gaga has (and is continuing to build on) besides Will Smith. Justin Timberlake managed a successful acting career, but a lot of his biggest movies are supporting roles or rom-coms and he's never really had the type of critical acclaim that Gaga has received. Of course there are other musical artists that have had steady and successful acting careers like Lenny Kravitz, Mary J Blige, Janelle Monae, Queen Latifah, but none of them are really box office draws in the way Gaga has been embraced. It really doesn't get mentioned enough just how truly impressive her film career is.

3 minutes ago, Bhabylon said:

Yep and that's why so many try to discredit and belittle her achievements, quick to say "but let's talk about her MUSIC career". Gaga is and will always be that girl. 

it is funny. While others are bragging about Spotify streams, Gaga is going to be in a movie that will take over the world is a real, tangible way. It is not comparable. 

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