3 hours ago, State of Grace. said:

I don't think all of it is revisionism tbh though? I personally had issues with the album after the first listen and I still stand by my opinion that the execution fell flat and didn't live up to the great concept/direction they were going for. I also think the album served some fantastic visuals (the album photoshoot, i-D and Billboard photoshoots, 911 music video, the entire tour) and some amazing career highlights (Replay, 911, Rain On Me, Babylon). Of course these are just my personal thoughts at the end of the day.

 

And re: the acclaim, it's not really fair to compare it to The Fame Monster/Born This Way because those were released during a time where only indie records and rock bands got universal acclaim. Chromatica came out during the era of Poptimism where everyone and their mothers are getting 70s/80s scores. The album ended the year at #41 on albumoftheyear.org

 

I do believe that "eras", visuals, performances, interviews, etc are a big factor in how the work is perceived and they can influence people's reception of the music/maybe elevate it a little, but we barely had that with Chromatica. Thank god for her best tour though. 

Yeah I remember after my first Chrome listen I was like Hm… that’s it? Just kind of fell flat. I forced myself to like it tho cause it was our first project in 2 years & studio album in 4, and ROM single era was a moment for the history books. But now I can look back on it & say that it was a neutered effort that should’ve had much higher production quality. Also the fact that she snuck at least 3 fillers on a 13 track album is still unacceptable

 

 

I Don't Know What Flopping Is >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bore To My Ears

 

1 minute ago, State of Grace. said:

I Don't Know What Flopping Is >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bore To My Ears

 

Loud & wrong, and the Spotify numbers prove it 

 

5 minutes ago, flower moon said:

True. I feel like since AP she's made kinda bad/weird decisions with producers, although I do like Chromaticas production mostly.

Yup. Sometimes the idea's for the the production on Chromatica are uninspired or basic, but the technical aspects are stellar. The songs sound fantastic. It might be her most well-mixed album. 

I listened to ASIB Soundtrack first while watching ASIB in theaters, it was transcendental. I will not tolerate ASIB slander.

7 minutes ago, luckythisway said:

Yeah I remember after my first Chrome listen I was like Hm… that’s it? Just kind of fell flat. I forced myself to like it tho cause it was our first project in 2 years & studio album in 4, and ROM single era was a moment for the history books. But now I can look back on it & say that it was a neutered effort that should’ve had much higher production quality. Also the fact that she snuck at least 3 fillers on a 13 track album is still unacceptable

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, luckythisway said:

Loud & wrong, and the Spotify numbers prove it 

 

Bore To My Ears literally comes after Shallah on the tracklist lmao. It has the best position on that tracklisting and still barely 115M streams.

 

I Don't Know What Flopping Is' 94M streams are more impressive considering it comes after the tank Heal Me.

 

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by State of Grace.

had it up to here with the Heal God slander in this thread

8 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

 

 

Bore To My Ears literally comes after Shallah on the tracklist lmao. It has the best position on that tracklisting and still barely 115M streams.

 

I Don't Know What Flopping Is' 94M streams are more impressive considering it comes after the tank Heal Me.

 

Don’t get me wrong. Alice, ROM, Sour Candy, Replay, Enigma, Babylon, (and on cheat/guilty days 1000D) are career highlights. But she had to come back TIGHT after ASIB, but she didn’t. The overall album concept was half baked, she couldn’t even articulate it properly on a single interview, and the overall production (NOT the mixing) was subpar. Salt in the wound was a newbie like Doja running circles around Gar with the exact same theme 

 

And okay maybe you made some points. Just personally hate the lyrics of I Don’t Know How to Write a Song & LUV the melody of Orgasm to my Ears 

 

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by luckythisway

ASIB dialogue track rankings next 

 

1 minute ago, luckythisway said:

Okay maybe you made some points. Just personally hate the lyrics of I Don’t Know How to Write a Song & LUV the melody of Orgasm to my Ears 

 

I hate the way Bradley and her sound on MTME nn but its not that bad 

 

14 minutes ago, EnigmaticAndroid said:

Yup. Sometimes the idea's for the the production on Chromatica are uninspired or basic, but the technical aspects are stellar. The songs sound fantastic. It might be her most well-mixed album. 

BTW production with Chomatica mixing when?

10 minutes ago, sunbathinganimal said:

had it up to here with the Heal God slander in this thread

Hang it up. It’s trash. Nice vocals yes, but the arrangement/progression is the musical equivalent of blue balls
 

Just now, luckythisway said:

Hang it up. It’s trash. Nice vocals yes, but the arrangement/progression is the musical equivalent of blue balls
 

it's the best pop song on ASIB by far, it's like if The Cure was good

if you wanna trash a ASIB pop track WDYDTTM and HBF are right there

14 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

I hate the way Bradley and her sound on MTME nn but its not that bad 

 

It has better lyrics and melody than I Don't Know What Good Music Is, they did sound better on that track tho.

1 hour ago, sunbathinganimal said:

it's the best pop song on ASIB by far, it's like if The Cure was good

The Quran is only inferior to WDYDT. HBF is a harmless throwaway bop but Sedate Me is an abomination. We Could Be Lovers deserved its spot on the track list 

 

People hating on ASIB are probably the same ones who are begging, since 2011, for gAY DaRk Popz produced by ReDone. 

 

 

ASIB produced her absolute best ballads.

 

I absolutely love Before I Cry, I just wish she never sang

"I CAN'T BELIEVE THE THINGS YOU SAID

Right now I wish that you would try"

Because I hear

"Right now I wish that you were dead"

We’re dragging ASIB now  

 

13 minutes ago, babyforlife said:

We’re dragging ASIB now  

 

None of the other bases do this btw. I don’t think they realize how abnormal it is to drag a rotation of her discography day after day. 

lets get back to attacking Toucanne 

 

 

1 hour ago, MAKSIM said:

None of the other bases do this btw. I don’t think they realize how abnormal it is to drag a rotation of her discography day after day. 

9 minutes ago, besaid said:

lets get back to attacking Toucanne 

 

 

ASIB sister album

I have been going back to Born This Way and whew, it is a masterpiece after masterpiece. Heavy Metal Lover & Electric Chapel are just on another level. 

This is better than anything on ARTS & CRAFTS