On 2/18/2025 at 5:31 PM, Pepo said:

I'm a nerd, so be prepared. I love to dive deep into technical stuff.

 

She was doing everything and anything on those tours. It likely had to do with her age and the state of her voice during those times I guess, I'm not an expert. I need to ask the good sisters @Bmezy or Ryan from the Bey discord, all I know is that she was giving her all.

 

She did some feats on The Beyoncé Experience that she never replicated ever again.

 

Firstly, the longest F5 of her career was during her show in Barcelona, 8 seconds. From the first minute of this video:

 

 

She was truly playing with her voice. Imagine going from an operatic A5, down to a Bb2, and ending with a sustained F5 and vibrato 

 

 

Her longest note was held in Oslo during Flaws And All, 14 seconds, if I'm not mistaken. Unfortunately her team took down most of her tour footage.

 

She also delivered many messa di voce, which is the hardest feat from a technical standpoint (she belongs in the in the same league as Whitney, Pavarotti, Lisa Fischer). She also did some on the US leg of the RWT btw.

 

 

The MSCWT was also insane. Even when she suffered from severe tonsillitis she was still delivering A+ plus live vocals, to the point of combining both versions of CIL 

 

 

WDYLM was the craziest thing she has ever done to this day. The mamas were shook

 

 

1+1 aka the beauty of Bey's voice in a nutshell 

 

 

And these were just some examples, I could have added many more. Sorry but FWT can hardly compete.

Really good breakdown !! I agree with everything tbh.. TBE showcased that pure unbridled youthful 'energy' where she was the most ambitious, the most daring here.. pulling all sorts of technical feats out of her bag. this was the hot streak era of her come up that marked the first of her many vocal evolutions.. 

 

each era highlighted different facets of her vocal arsenal..

-TBH was where she showed the most vocal freedom and ease across her entire range.

-I AM was similar to TBE but she had grown even more refined in her approach and delivery

-4/Mrs. Carter Tour saw her grow in depth and maturation in timbre with dark, richer overtones that blossomed her voice beautifully !

- Formation tour was her at her most FEROCIOUS.. she leaned heavy into the increased power and volume that she gained from her first pregnancy .. the grit and roar she had during this era was a moment for me!

 

I can go on and on lol

 

1 hour ago, Shelter said:

DC having an album track (Brown eyes) from 2001 over 100 million is insane 

Right!!! If it was released as a single it could've been a cute Hit

Edited February 25, 20251 yr by Crayzik

Brown Eyes was huge in SEA, this part of the world Bey has decided to forget about ever since managing herself

2 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Brown Eyes was huge in SEA, this part of the world Bey has decided to forget about ever since managing herself

And I have no clue either. Homegirl literally is worshipped by K-Pop groups in Korea and soooo many other Asian countries. If she continued her dominance during IASF she'd be right behind Taylor imo. Lowkey hate it. 

15 minutes ago, Crayzik said:

Right!!! If it was released as a single it could've been a cute Hit

Wouldn't mind her performing it tbh 

Have ya'll watched Questlove's new documentary?

 

 

 

I think there might be something for Act III there... 

 

 

I wish Bey and Jay were actually what people thought they were and would smack the **** out of that man for messing with Mama Tina. 

13 minutes ago, Bender34 said:

I wish Bey and Jay were actually what people thought they were and would smack the **** out of that man for messing with Mama Tina. 

what happened?

7 minutes ago, Carla Rosón said:

what happened?

Kanye ******* around on Instagram

I just wanna leave this here:

 

Work it out, Suga Mama, Purple Rain (Cover), Sex on Fire (Cover), I Care, The Beautiful Ones (Cover), Proud Mary (Cover), Dont Hurt Yourself, Freedom, If I Were A Boy, Ya Ya, 16 Carriages, American Requiem, Stevie Tribute

 

That Rock Act is gonna be SO good

 

Does anyone know why #she and her husband stopped going to NBA games court side? She used to serve looks and we got to see what kind of phone case she had. Did they sell their ownership of whatever team they had a stake in?

4 hours ago, Lose My Breath said:

HDD has Cowboy Carter at 1.6 million now

2 million with the tour lets gooo. I would love each album in the trilogy to be certified multi platinum. 400k might take a while though idk. 

1.6 million in the U.S?

38 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said:

2 million with the tour lets gooo. I would love each album in the trilogy to be certified multi platinum. 400k might take a while though idk. 

We need an intern to send "Bodyguard" to Top 40 / AC / AAA / Hot AC / Europe for the summer, and "Tyrant" to Rhythmic / Urban.

Maybe "Just For Fun" or "Ya Ya" to R&B radio as well.

"Protector" might grow legs on Mother's Day. We'll see.

 

"Levii's Jeans", "Riiverdance", "II Hands II Heaven", "Sweet Honey Buckin", and "Spaghetti" should remain high-profile album tracks.

Edited February 26, 20251 yr by trainsskyscrapers

33 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said:

2 million with the tour lets gooo. I would love each album in the trilogy to be certified multi platinum. 400k might take a while though idk. 

I think this tour might do more for CC than RWT did for Renaissance 

1 hour ago, Fleahive said:

Does anyone know why #she and her husband stopped going to NBA games court side? She used to serve looks and we got to see what kind of phone case she had. Did they sell their ownership of whatever team they had a stake in?

because of this incident that ppl blew out of proportion

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Rotunda said:

 

i think the most interesting thing here is that this appears to be her new Creative Director.

 

andrew hasnt posted anything about CCT or the Beyonce Bowl and both are pinned to the top of her IG page.

Edited February 26, 20251 yr by yonsé

4 hours ago, Shelter said:

DC having an album track (Brown eyes) from 2001 over 100 million is insane 

It holds a special place because it's a coming of age relationship song. I used to sing it and fantasize about my future boyfriends lol. 

1 hour ago, Chris said:

1.6 million in the U.S?

Yep. US only 

Damn not bad for an album that barely had any promotion.

38 minutes ago, yonsé said:

i think the most interesting thing here is that this appears to be her new Creative Director.

 

andrew hasnt posted anything about CCT or the Beyonce Bowl and both are pinned to the top of her IG page.

Did he pivot to Chloe x Halle and their solo work full-time?

I also remember Andrew designed a single cover way way back for Normani ("Slow Down" x "Checklist"), but Beyonce's day-to-day creative director Kwasi Fordjour now does most of Normani's creative direction.

21 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

Did he pivot to Chloe x Halle and their solo work full-time?

I also remember Andrew designed a single cover way way back for Normani ("Slow Down" x "Checklist"), but Beyonce's day-to-day creative director Kwasi Fordjour now does most of Normani's creative direction.

i believe beyonce's creative director is the creative director of all of parkwood entertainment.

 

todd tourso was her CD from 2013-2016. then kwasi came in from 2016-2020. after black is king (which kwasi had a huge hand in producing) he left and andrew took the mantle of CD from 2021-2024. (he was previously just the art director). during that time, since beyonce wasnt releasing during 2020-2022, he was in charge of chloe x halle's creative direction. once she decided to get back to work, i believe chloe x halle got different teams. the last chloe video to be produced by Parkwood was Surprise.

 

andrew did design the normani x calvin cover, but i think that was a freelance project. or that normani was in the market for a new creative team and tested him out. I don't think he did anything else for her after that. kwasi has since joined normani's creative team and did the visuals for Dopamine including the album cover and the videos she never put out lol

 

to answer your question about whether hes still with parkwood that is TBD. he did post about the AOTY win, but hasn't posted about anything shes doing now like CCT and the halftime show. so i think he's being phased out after his comments on billionaires during the height of the palestine/israel conflict last year made headlines that made beyonce look bad (BEYONCE'S CREATIVE DIRECTOR IS ANTI-SEMETIC was the headline i believe)

Edited February 26, 20251 yr by yonsé

1 hour ago, yonsé said:

because of this incident that ppl blew out of proportion

 

 

I felt really sorry for that woman.  I believe her husband was one of the owners of the team or the arena (can't remember which) and she was just trying to be a good host.  And maybe a little nervous being around them.