All this talk of Renaissance but still no visuals.

 

You guys are sick.

On 8/6/2024 at 2:51 AM, Lose My Breath said:

But where is @Lovett?

 

You okay sis?

I believe Lovett was banned. But it's been more than 3 months, possibly he does not want to comeback.

I mean I don't like the fact that she's promoting an old song over CC but logic trumps emotion, and Freedom is the best choice for Kamala's theme song and it would be difficult to incorporate any CC song for her campaign, There's no point in debating that. 
 

I wish she performed Yaya at the Olympics ugh that would've been perfect. Actually, I wish did ANYTHING rn, get up on a stage granny this is lame and tired

 

1 hour ago, SashaDevachelli said:

I mean I don't like the fact that she's promoting an old song over CC but logic trumps emotion, and Freedom is the best choice for Kamala's theme song and it would be difficult to incorporate any CC song for her campaign, There's no point in debating that. 
 

I wish she performed Yaya at the Olympics ugh that would've been perfect. Actually, I wish did ANYTHING rn, get up on a stage granny this is lame and tired

 

Isn't Kobe's memorial her last true live televised performance?

10 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Isn't Kobe's memorial her last true live televised performance?

yes. unless you count that disney singalong snapchat she sent during the panny 

 

the oscars was the last performance period, but pre-taped obv

 

fingers crossed for LA28

Edited August 14, 20242 yr by yonsé

4 and half years ago

Maybe some of us remember At Last being a special moment during Obama's campaign/inauguration.

 

It's that, but it could be bigger this time.  Even if the song doesn't make it to the top 40 on radio, it getting spins is basically a Kamala ad at this point. The effort behind radio ads for Freedom is not centered on Beyoncé or her benefit. Similar to how Beyonce didn't center anything around CC for her benefit, so it's on brand.

 

BTW Freedom works flawlessly as the campaign anthem particularly in this climate where our rights are on the line. The song sounds even better in today's context than it did in 2016.

 

 

Do we even have any single rumor of her booking stadiums for next year? 

 

I just checked and we already had confirmation of the Renaissance tour happening by this time during the Renaissance era. 

Edited August 14, 20242 yr by Draper.

4 hours ago, yonsé said:

freedom is a much more optimistic song than ya ya. "whole lotta red in that white and blue" (a lyric about the blood of Black bodies being the foundation of the country) is not exactly a lyric a presidential hopeful trying to appeal to wide audiences is going to use. its quite radical coming from her. freedom is neutral in comparison. its about fighting for what's right, while ya ya is a critique of america through a Black lens. she's already got the Black community's vote, she's not going to use a song that will alienate moderates. this is politics not pop music.

And isn't politics meant to be thought provoking? Pop music isn't meant to be as deep as atrl makes it. YA YA is being realistic, I know a lot of you don't have the bandwidth to WANT to process politics and actually deep dive (I'm the same way) but to say YA YA wouldn't work is foolish. 

47 minutes ago, mons†er said:

 I know a lot of you don't have the bandwidth to WANT to process politics and actually deep dive (I'm the same way) but to say YA YA wouldn't work is foolish. 

Just because we have a different opinion than you doesn't mean we're lacking the bandwidth to process politics. 

 

Ya Ya just wouldn't work as effectively as Freedom. It's not really something that requires a deep dive. It's actually pretty surface level.

59 minutes ago, mons†er said:

And isn't politics meant to be thought provoking? Pop music isn't meant to be as deep as atrl makes it. YA YA is being realistic, I know a lot of you don't have the bandwidth to WANT to process politics and actually deep dive (I'm the same way) but to say YA YA wouldn't work is foolish. 

If you're trying to appeal to a mass audience to get as many votes as possible, no.

 

in addition to the lyrics about B's black identity that would alienate white voters, the sexualized lyrics (put your lips on my lips and strum me like a guitar) are also not appealing to conservative audiences.
 

she is trying to win votes from republicans. not sure how being risky and thought-provoking helps her out there 

 

freedom is basic in its message, ya ya is too layered for most Americans to understand? I think you overestimate the intelligence of the voter base.

This is all fine and dandy but don't let this distract you from the fact that we're going to get radio silence until Mufasa drops and then drops another soundtrack that 5sos will out-stream, which will then be closely followed by act iii- Everything is Still Love Part 2 (On The Run)

 

Doom is upon us sisters, may god have mercy on our souls

Are we saying "FREEDOM", a song driven by it's anthemic sense for the suffering of black women, senseless police brutality against black Americans and the stain America has left in the pursuit of complete freedom for African Americans, is a strategic song choice, chosen to rally up the Republican Party who are hell bent on a r*****, with a track list of felonies, who sees high value in stripping African Americans of the rights as President (AGAIN)?  
 

Because I just see as low hanging fruit, due to its lyrics of the chorus being 'interchangeable' for whatever movement one could pushing. Wouldn't the song being sent to radio align with the claim Bey is doing whatever she can to get behind Kamala? Because I definitely don't see her coming out of her house for a performance as a support, seeing as how she's only came out for multi-million dollar checks. 

1 hour ago, TizTiz said:

Are we saying "FREEDOM", a song driven by it's anthemic sense for the suffering of black women, senseless police brutality against black Americans and the stain America has left in the pursuit of complete freedom for African Americans, is a strategic song choice, chosen to rally up the Republican Party who are hell bent on a r*****, with a track list of felonies, who sees high value in stripping African Americans of the rights as President (AGAIN)?  
 

Because I just see as low hanging fruit, due to its lyrics of the chorus being 'interchangeable' for whatever movement one could pushing. Wouldn't the song being sent to radio align with the claim Bey is doing whatever she can to get behind Kamala? Because I definitely don't see her coming out of her house for a performance as a support, seeing as how she's only came out for multi-million dollar checks. 

choosing freedom was absolutely a strategic choice made by Kamala and her team. It's young, it's urban, but it's universal at the same time. 

 

And the point of touring battleground states is to win swing votes. So no, the song wasn't picked to "rally up" trump supporters. It was picked to sway *republicans* who are potentially looking to vote blue because they aren't aligning with trump and his base. That is ultimately how Kamala will win the election. And picking a song like ya ya isn't going to have that same universal appeal.

 

Edited August 15, 20242 yr by yonsé

y'all are still fighting over nonsense. "Freedom" and "YA YA" are both equally "Black" and "anti-police" and "radical" and "anti-conservative." 

 

neither of these songs panders to a republican base. have y'all forgot there's a Kendrick verse on this song?

 

"Freedom" is more anthemic overall, less self-indulgent. it's a beautiful melodic hook. "YA YA" is a great song but why would a presidential candidate choose that over "Freedom"? it'd be stupid to go with "YA YA YA YA YA YA (we shakin)" over "Freedom."

 

I think the way she used "YA YA" for the Olympics was great, really appropriate. "Complicated nation" we are... And we gotta make the best of it and keep having fun. "Freedom" and the election are more serious than that. It's a tonal difference that is very obvious to me.

 

now when if Kamala Harris does win, she could perform "YA YA" at the inauguration. 

Edited August 15, 20242 yr by kimberly

The whole slogan of her campaign is centered around freedom and she chooses a song called Freedom by a black female, its really not rocket science guys nnnnn

1 hour ago, yonsé said:

choosing freedom was absolutely a strategic choice made by Kamala and her team. It's young, it's urban, but it's universal at the same time. 

 

And the point of touring battleground states is to win swing votes. So no, the song wasn't picked to "rally up" trump supporters. It was picked to sway *republicans* who are potentially looking to vote blue because they aren't aligning with trump and his base. That is ultimately how Kamala will win the election. And picking a song like ya ya isn't going to have that same universal appeal.

 

I'm not in support of "Ya Ya" neither, or any song for that matter, as it's he least important part of the campaigning. Anyone who places their bit for Kamala because she chose to use "FREEDOM" is not fit to make a huge decision affecting their own livelihood for the next four years. 
 

And what you explained is still rallying up. Half of the ppl needed to swing their are still voting for Trump privately, essentially those in power seats. The citizens are also unpredictable, as we've seen the last time Trump was elected president because of an email. 
 

The only strategy in choosing "FREEDOM" is plainly the chorus of the song. As someone stated earlier, it's really not that deep and an 'on the nose' point. 

 

Edited August 15, 20242 yr by TizTiz

So more than 3 months have passed since Cowboy Carter and I can now confidently say that my Top5 has changed considerably. However, quality ALWAYS wins in the longrun, so the best songs, according to my assessment, are:

 

1. 2 Hands 2 Heaven 

2. Tyrant

3. Ya Ya

4. Sweet - Honey - Buckin

5. American Requiem

 

And thats the tea.

18 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

The GP, particular non-Beyonce fans, are not dissecting lyrics though. The last thing a presidential candidate wants to do is have to explain a campaign song and why they chose it. Freedom is straight forward. There's no reason to muddy the waters when you don't have to. 

This. Also doesn't change the fact that YaYa is literally about BEYINCE while Freedom is a general rallying cry.

And yes, Ya Ya obviously isn't anti American I probably used the wrong words there, but it's still a song that says 'whole lot of red in that white and blue'. Which is true!! America is built on horror. But this is a campaign that's trying to win over moderate swing voters. They won't mess with cold truths like that.

7 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

So more than 3 months have passed since Cowboy Carter and I can now confidently say that my Top5 has changed considerably. However, quality ALWAYS wins in the longrun, so the best songs, according to my assessment, are:

 

1. 2 Hands 2 Heaven 

2. Tyrant

3. Ya Ya

4. Sweet - Honey - Buckin

5. American Requiem

 

And thats the tea.

I think some of you give SHB too much, and Protector too little. And I think you'll see the vision when she performs these live, and SHB is revealed to be the P/H rip-off it is, while Protector is a viral showstopper 

I'M JUICY

 

 

YOU HATE ME

 

 

CAUSE YOU WANT ME

 

deréon, where do you think you're goin', gowrl?

Edited August 15, 20242 yr by Joaco95

 

 

The way other pop girls who haven't released music are more active than Bey. I kinda hope she retires after act 3.