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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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The way the usual are perched and seething in the HDD thread about her numbers.

 

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11 minutes ago, Chris said:

The way the usual are perched and seething in the HDD thread about her numbers.

 

They cant take it.....her success is like scalding tea

2 minutes ago, Devin said:

jail. what is this? :skull:

Look at that horse. Look at that horse. Look at that horse. 
:gayoncecat3:
 

I am so damn intrigued about the recent years of Bey's business trajectory.  I really hope we get the tea about it at some point, even if years down the line.

 

Because I really get the sense (aka I've decided lol) that sis really said "nah uh, I got to regroup" after EIL/The Gift underperformed.

 

We give both the "side project" treatment, but if we're keeping it 100 both should have done better on the merit of Bey's name alone. And the fact they didn't was concerning as a fan and no doubt a "wtf moment" for her too.

 

Here she was coming off the enormity of Lemonade and yet somehow between Tidal, not embracing streaming, and in some regards going against the grain of what her fans wanted (aka EIL instead of a post-Coachella solo LP), she found herself against the ropes heading into Rennie...which is objectively wild.

 

I pay A LOT of attention to the backend of her operation and it's extremely telling that she effectively cleaned house after BIK.

 

Remember the manager that praised scoring "two top 10" albums after TG flopped as some kind of positive spin that even we side-eyed? He was gone in the immediate aftermath of BIK. Plus other execs in the fold and creatives. Roles were eradicated and total new ones were created.

 

Looking at "Beyonce" as a product, Rennie kicked off the new era, RWT saw the new business model in full swing, and now CC the flowers of her new tree bloom more. 

 

I trust that she'll continue to remold her model the more to ensure she's fighting fit in an ever-changing industry, but just saying aloud that I'm almost as equally invested in this aspect of her career as I am the music. 

 

Especially as an 90s/00s/10s R&B fan, who has seen so many acts come and go because they don't approach their careers in such a business-minded/product-driven way. Particularly at challenging times. Perfecting the pivot to meet the market need and adapting her team to keep her brand and market position top tier is an angle of her perfectionism that I admire so much and would love see more of. We likely won't because it hinders the mystique, but again hopefully we get insights at some point. 

57 minutes ago, Chris said:

ok how did you hijack @Blue Rose's voicemail

8 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Beyonce is the hangman 

Interesting. You owe me a debt, you stole him from me? Trying to figure out how that ties in. 

Nevermind, still dont like it.

15 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Ok but what is the deeper meaning of hangman? 
 

Think High School GIF by Paramount Movies

I still think she is going to do a multiverse situation where she visits her other selves in some way. Thar or a version of an antagonist representing some sort of opposition. 

11 minutes ago, Devin said:

jail. what is this? :skull:

What @Redporus sounds like hitting a high note.

1 minute ago, sillycilla said:

Interesting. You owe me a debt, you stole him from me? Trying to figure out how that ties in. 

I think it's a play on old western hangman who would kill those sentenced to death, but she's referring to the hangman as the other woman who stole her man, who comes to town and sleeps with all of the men. She refers to the hangman as a tyrant, and then refers to herself as the tyrant. 

Seems like a super sex positive song to me. 

 

6 minutes ago, satellites.™ said:

Nevermind, still dont like it.

I still think she is going to do a multiverse situation where she visits her other selves in some way. Thar or a version of an antagonist representing some sort of opposition. 

I would love that. This further points to CC visuals being the start of the universe, hopefully. It's the most "her" and vulnerable.  Renaissance is futuristic. 
 

OR each act represents the past (rock) , present (cc), future (ren)? 

Oh, and I say all of the above to say looking past CC and even Act III...

 

I'm elated that she's establishing a streaming footprint that will immediately see any future "side projects" arrive on much more fertile ground to slay on launch.

 

In one regard, once the trilogy is complete, I wouldn't mind her taking long/er breaks between projects and making every such drop an "event".

 

Equally, now that her legacy is set and we have established that we won't hold her side projects to the same commercial scrutiny as her main offerings, I would love to see more concept projects like The Gift, EIL (ideally with other artists), and film-based things to bridge the gap between her main solo albums. It's more music for us and more creative freedom (sans "as much" commercial pressure) for her.

 

 

14 minutes ago, satellites.™ said:

Nevermind, still dont like it.

I still think she is going to do a multiverse situation where she visits her other selves in some way. Thar or a version of an antagonist representing some sort of opposition. 

Could explain the visual with the two Beyoncés back to back. 

2 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Could explain the visual with the two Beyoncés back to back. 

What visual?

Just now, Chris said:

What visual?

The tour interlude 

1 minute ago, Lose My Breath said:

The tour interlude 

Which one?

 

:deadbanana:

 

Sorry you should know I am sorta slow.

11 minutes ago, Chris said:

Which one?

 

:deadbanana:

 

Sorry you should know I am sorta slow.

 

 

Anyone have theories on what Alligator Tears is about?

 

my guesses:

 

1. Her man does cheat with Jolene which is what Daughter is about. Alligator Tears is her agreeing to give him another chance (She still seems unhappy in Just for Fun).

 

2. She does something bad in Daughter or Spaghetti, and Alligator Tears is her convincing her man to go on the run with her. Or possibly the other way around.

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51 minutes ago, nooniebao said:

 

 

Lemonade was treated so poorly omg. just because it got locked up on JayZ's streaming app. he was really committed to playing the villain.

Did Jay-Z cheat again? 
 

Cause after listening to these lyrics…

GIRLLL!!! :deadbanana2:

Do we think Bey's going to release/announce anything April 8 during the eclipse? I mean, it's technically 4 4 4 :celestial5:

 

Also, been watching Lorebreakers vids on how the outros to a lot of CC songs sound very similar to those of Sony Pictures and THX's sound clips  :redface:

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