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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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44 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

live footage of us watching Ms. Ware’s distractingly beautiful dancer at her show

oof iktr

 

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21 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Messiest recent Basé moments 

 

1. palliative care

Me at #1 as per never usual

 

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3 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Me at #1 as per never usual

 

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your top era


 

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you thought it was gonna be that gif huh

 

:suburban:

 

1 minute ago, cloudbusting said:

your top era


 

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you thought it was gonna be that gif huh

 

:suburban:

As if I've had any other kind of era? :khalyan2:

 

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me being a virgin notwithstanding :suburban:

 

3 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

As if I've had any other kind of era? :khalyan2:

 

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me being a virgin notwithstanding :suburban:

 

okay true, and you do give off that vibe in person too

 

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being a top, not a virgin i mean

 

:suburban:

 

No more tour dates but yall are saying she’s gonna do some gimped arena in VEGAS?? :mazen: the fake news. I’d rather see her in a theater where it could actually be intimate the only pro or that venue is the giant screens and there’s way more to her shows than screens 


earlier jokes aside, this song doesn’t get the respect it deserves

1 hour ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Stop using that gif right now

 

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all of us in 2 weeks when we get blasted in the face with THIS A REMINDER

 

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Just now, ScorpiosGroove said:

cindy my *****’s itching :WAP:

 

 

Wouldn't they do this **** anyway :deadbanana: even if they have no plans to release themselves

Just now, Mitsouko said:

Wouldn't they do this **** anyway :deadbanana: even if they have no plans to release themselves

they would bc they suck but i vaguely remember the same thing happening before homecoming :jonnycat:

 

imagine being able to play Drunk In Dubai in pristine quality and with an amazing mix on streaming :jonnycat:

Since it premieres on the 25th they probably already finished editing the film :jonny2: hopefully we get the real runtime next week 

 

1 hour ago, Kassi said:

Taylor will be in Brazil so no reciprocal photo op :gaycat6:

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On 10/18/2023 at 3:49 PM, QueenB said:

We've already moved into saying it's an art film for only super fans to prepare for the $19 million total opening weekend (and only weekend)

https://deadline.com/2023/11/beyonce-concert-film-renaissance-box-office-projection-1235615818/

My curse is active. Release the visuals now or the rotten tomatoes score will be 58%

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So nothing? I thought people said it made sense to concentrate all the promo closest to the movie? :laugh:

 

Why is this era such a desert? I can not quite explain it. Why not at least give us a single : all it takes his streaming play listing and send it to radio. I t is hard work for Parkwood, I know but they've been resting for some time now, no?

 

A cute thing would be to release Heated or AS now, even better would be to start the promo of it in the film's trailer.

2 minutes ago, BnPac said:

So nothing? I thought people said it made sense to concentrate all the promo closest to the movie? :laugh:

 

Why is this era such a desert? I can not quite explain it. Why not at least give us a single : all it takes his streaming play listing and send it to radio. I t is hard work for Parkwood, I know but they've been resting for some time now, no?

 

A cute thing would be to release Heated or AS now, even better would be to start the promo of it in the film's trailer.

Renaissance era is dead. The docu is going to be the final product and then I hope they just lay everything to rest. I don't want to hear about MVs or singles at this point. Its just ridiculous tbh.

Move on, stay on the low, and get ready for the next Album.

I may be in the minority for this, but I feel Renny hasn’t yet been served the justice it deserves. No Bey, just a tour thru NA/EU is not enough for this era. We waited over 6 years for a solo project from her and we couldn’t even get a single video? Barely two single releases. 
 

The doc is a step in the right direction, but like a year and a half later… 

 

So yea I would even be interested in reissue like she did with Sasha Fierce and Self Titled with new songs and more singles before we move on to the next era…

2 minutes ago, Iaintsorry said:

I may be in the minority for this, but I feel Renny hasn’t yet been served the justice it deserves. No Bey, just a tour thru NA/EU is not enough for this era. We waited over 6 years for a solo project from her and we couldn’t even get a single video? Barely two single releases. 
 

The doc is a step in the right direction, but like a year and a half later… 

 

So yea I would even be interested in reissue like she did with Sasha Fierce and Self Titled with new songs and more singles before we move on to the next era…

I think nobody here can say we've been FED this era, don't worry. :toofunny2:

My theory as to why she doesn't release singles and send them to be played on radio is that she wants her brand to be seen as limited, luxurious and scarce. A lot of products she releases has a luxury feel to it (Ivy Park, Ce Noir, tour tickets, the vinyl box sets) and I think she doesn't want her brand to be too available or frequent or else it may affect that scarce and special feel. It's also my theory as to why she doesn't release vinyls of her old music.

 

I don't think releasing singles off the album would affect that much but if my theory is right, that's how she sees her business.

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11 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

they would bc they suck but i vaguely remember the same thing happening before homecoming :jonnycat:

 

imagine being able to play Drunk In Dubai in pristine quality and with an amazing mix on streaming :jonnycat:

@HotFriedChicken you’re mad af pookie :bibliahh:

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5 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

@HotFriedChicken you’re mad af pookie :bibliahh:

Oh you wanna fight huh? Are you bored? Looking for a moment? Go and beat your meat because you won't get any such thing from me. :rip:

8 minutes ago, HotFriedChicken said:

Oh you wanna fight huh? Are you bored? Looking for a moment? Go and beat your meat because you won't get any such thing from me. :rip:

i don’t fight with intellectually challenged people sawry :celestial2:

43 minutes ago, holyground13 said:

My theory as to why she doesn't release singles and send them to be played on radio is that she wants her brand to be seen as limited, luxurious and scarce. A lot of products she releases has a luxury feel to it (Ivy Park, Ce Noir, tour tickets, the vinyl box sets) and I think she doesn't want her brand to be too available or frequent or else it may affect that scarce and special feel. It's also my theory as to why she doesn't release vinyls of her old music.

 

I don't think releasing singles off the album would affect that much but if my theory is right, that's how she sees her business.

I really appreciate this take, because I think a lot of fans get caught up in the front-facing aspect of her stardom and don't seem too invested in the backend that makes for the **Beyonce** brand as we enjoy it today. 

 

Like you said, luxury and exclusivity must literally be *the* key words she and Parkwood approach her entire brand with. Note how when everyone else is driving down the price of their albums (anywhere from $5-$10) Bey sells ST and Lemonade at an increased premium ($15-$20) with videos. She literally never discounts her music and doesn't ever present as playing the game. 

 

My long held theory is that it's all branding. I will never (ever) believe that she "doesn't care" in the way a lot of fans moan is the case. I think it's the opposite. Bey is very aware of her celebrity status and very carefully and very tactfully takes steps to elongate her spell as the top dog.

 

**Being seen** to chase hit singles or being hungry for numbers (by discounting etc) goes aginst the luxury brand she's angling for. Put simply, Macy's discounts and panders to the masses...Gucci does not. Bey is...Gucci. 

 

She's in a very unique space where there's literally no other act from her time with her level of present day clout. None. Probably only her, Madonna and MJ are the acts in recent memory than have managed to span multiple generations in a way that is unprecedented. That's not luck, that's consistent output and A LOT of brand strategy. 

 

IMO, 4 was the turning point. She played the game, did all the things to try and turn the tide, and still under-performed. From then onwards, I feel a light switch was hit and it became clear her celebrity/brand etc had to be anchored on something more than sales and singles for to last the distance. Hence, the almost purposeful anti-Pop star antics she pulls. Positioning as a luxury, inaccessible entity heightens the demand...for the most part. 

 

I say alladis to say, she definitely cares about presenting as successful with her main pillars (album sales, tour gross, and big money moves). Like others have said, that's fine, but sending a song to radio or assuring she had another commercial moment after Cuff It costs her nothing...be that money, resources, or physical effort. Having more "moments" literally supports her cause, ropes in the GP, and gives her more clout/negotiating power for her actual money-making endeavours. It's like she's pushing the anti-Pop star thing too far and it could backfire eventually. 

the whole "she’s a brand and her music’s a luxury item" point is dumb af on her side:rip:yes she’s better than the other girls and she more than earned it to act like her work is holy water but at the end of the day it’s not, and her approach has gotten pretentious as **** i’m sorry. you’re a musician who sells music, not the cure to cancer. 

 

what’s the point if the people aren’t buying nor streaming your luxury ? you can’t be a luxury brand as a musician while becoming more and more niche and reclusive. Even the biggest luxury fashion house does multiple shows a year, magazine covers, interviews, influencer collabs aka they PROMOTE, otherwise none of them would survive these days (lbr nobody buys Gucci or Balenciaga **** for their quality now lol) we may love & understand her experimental left field work but the GP clearly doesn’t, they want light fun bops not her singing about generational trauma and her Basquiat collection…they say no to all of her collabs that are too different but eat up the basic Perfect / Savage type of stuff 

 

out of all the amazing songs on Ren the most vanilla and basic one (for Bey’s standards) was also the most successful 

 

her most basic album is STILL her most successful one, her very experimental and qualitative work outside of Ren is in the gutter streams wise… 

 

don’t send your songs to radio, don’t discount anything, don’t do vinyl reissues, don’t give us music videos, don’t perform for free cool, fine

 

but don’t scramble and spam your insta story again the day the GP stops buying your "luxury" music or paying for your shows, and that day will come if she stays on the bullshit train she loves to ride 

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