I feel for you guys who are clearly stressed/upset by all this. I promise it's so much more enjoyable to just let it go and be excited when/if it actually arrives. I get such enjoyment from listening to the album (literally doing it right now) and scrolling through tour updates, without any stress that "OMG she hasn't released the visualsss!!!11". I get it, but surely it's exhausting at this point and just ruining your joy!

This hag has given me so much over the past decades and her arts has helped me got through sooo many dark and difficult events in my life  that I can’t stay mad at her despite how delusional she can be, sometimes or most of the times. Ugh I still refuse to listen to Travis, and I’m so mad that she replaced LOOP THE SAMPLE with ECHOS for the show. My show is next week and I better get the ORIGINAL LOOP THE SAMPLE back bitchhhhh 

Edited July 30, 20233 yr by Kh-Loud

just retire at this point, clubfoot 

 

no one wants your ugly visuals anyway you child eating witch 

 

Spoiler

3 minutes ago, HausofArtpopII said:

yall are tryna dig too deep into this.

 

she's a troll plain and simple 

This. 

 

It's one of those scenarios where several things can be true at once. 

 

* The visuals ARE coming: she wouldn't have voluntarily name-checked them in the actual tour if they weren't ("you asked for the visuals...called for the queen...she moves at her own pace"}. Very much dispels the idea of "if" they're coming (they are) and makes it more a case of "when". 

 

* She is a troll. 

 

* It IS becoming boring being a Bey stan. I'll always be one. Ever and always. The standard of her output and my love for everything she is is too top tier. But, she's arguably driving this "no promo/silence/surprise" thing in a direction that a) could end up backfiring at some point and b) just doesn't make the "ride" that exciting for us as fans. The latter being most surprising because she and Mathew really pioneered what our generation understood as THEE handbook for promoting a Black superstar as a MPG and impacting EVERY lane. I get the whole eye for surprise, but sometimes IT"S OK TO MOVE normally. In fairness, no one ever said the anniversary for the visuals were certain. WE took it and ran with it. But only because it makes so much sense logically. She's really about to do BIK all over again. For her sake, she better hope a) the streaming partner has more pull than Disney+ did for that and b) people end up caring to the extent she hopes wherever it drops. 

 

* Her using Echoes and Good Life in the tour was a tease for new music IMO.

 

* If going with her OTRII / EIL strategy, she could in theory use show 2 (today) to drop the trailer.

 

* Whenever the visuals comes, we'll a;; gag and all the paragraphs will be a distant memory. A slighty abusive relationship loop lol.

 

We'll see.

I do think some of you guys need to let go of the numbers (ironically referenced in echoes)... my only disappointment at this moment is lack of singles or song visibility  because ultimately that's what clubs & radio will play in 5 years time

 

No Cozy, Heated or Pure in public venues.

 

...just Cuff It which I'm sick of hearing tbh 

when she sang sweet dreams at the FWT and did the spanking motion during the "some of them want to abuse you" part while cackling… she meant herself 

Please keep in mind that this is the same lady who made “formation tour dvd” shirts to sell. Which we took for it being a thing that’s happening, only for us to find out the formation tour is in our head 

4 hours ago, Fleahive said:

Does anyone else get heart palpitations (in a good way) when a random influencer you follow attends the Renaissance tour when none of their previous content even hinted they were a Beyoncé fan? Ugh yes all the hotties I follow on TikTok have been attending. I’m shocked every time it happens. I always assume they hate her. 

If they're white, yes. I automatically assume they stan Gaga, Britney, Christina or Taylor. So it's always a surprise when I'm wrong.

3 hours ago, Machete said:

Not getting visuals is one thing (massively exhausting don’t get me wrong) but manageable. It’s the fact she couldn’t even throw together a Chat-GPT written speech or IG caption on the album for its anniversary…

I don't mind this because for a long time, she hasn't even done any of this. We get the usual deluxe release. Which I was expecting to be the visuals. But it's whatever at this point.

8 minutes ago, QueenB said:

Please keep in mind that this is the same lady who made “formation tour dvd” shirts to sell. Which we took for it being a thing that’s happening, only for us to find out the formation tour is in our head 

I get it. But SHE (not verbally nor by press release) ever told us a FWT DVD was coming. IIRC that was stan-demanded because they loved the tour so much and speculation was rife that it was being professionally recorded and it snowballed from there.

 

This is different; her own team issued a press release confirming the visuals (albeit vaguely). She's also teasing it (on her own accord) on the tour. It's....different.

 

Granted this has been a forced and unnecessary exercise in patience (while they navigated what went wrong behind the scenes), Bey has never announced something that didn't come. I think she's too much of a perfectionist/premium/prideful to go down that route so many flops do. Hasn't happened before and I don't see it starting now. I'd sooner see her scrap whatever she had (if she didn't like it) and quietly start from scratch. But she promised it, so essentially - because of her own established rules for self - will commit to it.

Edited July 30, 20233 yr by Cbreezy

I know she gets a kick out of this. She thinks she's some kind of radical and the coolest person ever. Act ii will be video's with no audio. We will be the songs. For act iii we will give her the tour as she sits in the audience. Its time to accept this hag will always do some annoying intellectual exercise instead of just serving us some songs and videos.

4 minutes ago, swtamira said:

I know she gets a kick out of this. She thinks she's some kind of radical and the coolest person ever. Act ii will be video's with no audio. We will be the songs. For act iii we will give her the tour as she sits in the audience. Its time to accept this hag will always do some annoying intellectual exercise instead of just serving us some songs and videos.

She is a bully and only is here to collect money from us

Edited July 30, 20233 yr by Bicassie

And I know Yvette feeds into her delusions. At 60 she's still gonna go 'Are they waiting for the visuals?' and Yvette will go 'Yes B they are all desperate for it on social media, now its time for your afternoon nap'. She's gonna mumble in her sleep 'Everybody's waiting for me. I am the modern day Prince. I am elusive.'

2 hours ago, jane said:

When she is ready, she will reveal it. I have no doubt there is a documentary about this whole era coming after this tour. She will probably explain everything including how she hurt her foot which probably made everything harder when she was filming the videos. Eventually she came to understand that how the fans received the album and how they used their own art to express that love was more powerful than what she was doing and she felt more inspired by that and will use that later on to honor the era. I mean sure she could tell us everything now and end the suspense but real fans will wait for her. Those who are only interested in promotion and grand gestures can go right back to the hot pop star of the moment and leave things alone because none of that will change. Beyoncé has let it known a long time now that she is not controlled by anyone and anything. Do what you gotta do if you dont like it. As a fan it will take more than that to make me turn on my favorite artist.

lol girl  

 

we haven’t gotten a real documentary in a decade. she don’t like us or care. shows are sold out, the bag is secured.

Edited July 30, 20233 yr by yonsé

17 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

She is a bully and only is here to collect money from us

yep. as long as the units are pushing, merch is selling, shows are sold out, she dgaf.

3 minutes ago, yonsé said:

yep. as long as the units are pushing, merch is selling, shows are sold out, she dgaf.

We need to boycott her atp just like the doja fans rn

2 hours ago, jane said:

I mean sure she could tell us everything now and end the suspense but real fans will wait for her. 

aaaand here comes the parkwood employees 

Yeah, she absolutely fumbled this era, no denying that 

Her sabotaging her releases and limiting exposure when she has every tool at her disposal (loyal fanbase, large social media following and a huge brand/empire) will always be frustrating for me. For the fans craving engagement this era has been very disappointing. She is releasing everything but what we want at the moment to make a quick buck but even then, she doesn't do it right. Surely she can see that successful music and accessible performances is what will drive business and money in her pocket with her side ventures?

On the flip side, Renaissance is still my favourite album by her. The replay value is immense. The experiences I had, with likeminded individuals at the tour will be cherished memories forever. To see everyone dressed up, enjoying the moment in what felt like such a safe and carefree space was very liberating and I'd assume was her intent with this release. Club Renaissance is also the perfect setup for a tour experience. There is space to walk around, admire other peoples outfits, grab a drink and just generally have a great time. Guarding your spot and fighting with sweaty teens is the worst thing about going to a concert for me these days.

Finally, as a fan, my mindset changed completely after seeing Beychella live. The thing that pushed me from massive fan to life long stan was watching Glastonbury on Youtube. I swore to myself I'd experience a spectacle as grand as that from her and Beychella left me completely satisfied as a fan. Since then, I've been a lot calmer about what I expect and want from her and have come to terms with her being a money hungry, self sabotaging looney, intent on driving her legendary career into the pits of Echoville.

i guess it could be worse… we could get bad music, no acclaim, flop makeup and a boring movie career 

 

edit : them constantly coming in here lol truly her second fanbase 

Edited July 30, 20233 yr by ScorpiosGroove

I’m starting to think she did not like what she was seeing on video. Mangled foot, palliative state, more fupa than expected. Lord knows she asked for the video facetune, a Super Freaky Girl special however long that’s taking. She said it was time for 2 apples. I was SHOCKED opening night at how snatched she was during I’m That Girl, I’ll tell you that. That suit in the beginning really had me fooled. I bet you she wanted to scrap the entire thing and do it all over again with that bawdy.

4 minutes ago, Starshine said:

I’m starting to think she did not like what she was seeing on video. Mangled foot, palliative state, more fupa than expected. Lord knows she asked for the video facetune, a Super Freaky Girl special however long that’s taking. She said it was time for 2 apples. I was SHOCKED opening night at how snatched she was during I’m That Girl, I’ll tell you that. That suit in the beginning really had me fooled. I bet you she wanted to scrap the entire thing and do it all over again with that bawdy.

So you think she scrapped the visuals cause she looked too chunky in them

I just think in her mind she has a big masterplan involving the visuals and the two other acts and the tour(s?) and 7 years from now we'll see all the times she teased it all and we had no clue, and we'll say "there 100% was a better way to do all that but oh well it's Beyoncé"

Well maybe she scrapped the visuals but she has to communicate that with her fans. 

Pop music/culture has been in the gutter and for her not to shake it up to the fullest extent over the last year is so lame. I won’t go as far as saying I feel let down or jipped because she did deliver quality music, but ima just say it and say she probably shot the visuals before she started Ozempics and felt some type of way after how good she looked after the fact and wanted to do a redo.