jesus even the meltdowns are boring this time… somebody shoot and take us out of our misery already 

Pressed Hive will remain pressed. Positive Hive will remain positive, and those of us in the middle simple don’t care, and are enjoying the music. It’s odd when people say that she’s sucked the fun out of the era, though. I’ve been to so many Renaissance parties throughout the year, creating some of my fav memories. I guess it’s all about perspective. It’s clear that some of ya’ll just want to fight, since Bey doesn’t care. 

What this base needs to do is stop deciding things for Beyoncé, and then get upset when she inevitably does not do it. You're creating your own issue, and if your frustration is wrapped up in the little Beyoncé has done during this era, at what point are you going to take the hint?

7 minutes ago, Tripthelight said:

Pressed Hive will remain pressed. Positive Hive will remain positive, and those of us in the middle simple don’t care, and are enjoying the music. It’s odd when people say that she’s sucked the fun out of the era, though. I’ve been to so many Renaissance parties throughout the year, creating some of my fav memories. I guess it’s all about perspective. It’s clear that some of ya’ll just want to fight, since Bey doesn’t care. 

Same! This has been such a massively joyous era for me. Would I have loved some of the things people have been complaining about? Absolutely. But that hasn’t removed all the joy from the era/music and it’s a shame that it has for some people. 

6 minutes ago, swissman said:

What this base needs to do is stop deciding things for Beyoncé, and then get upset when she inevitably does not do it. You're creating your own issue, and if your frustration is wrapped up in the little Beyoncé has done during this era, at what point are you going to take the hint?

I agree with you. But to be fair, most of the issues people have with her regarding the era is the literal teasing that she chose to do. My only issue is how defensive some of ya’ll get when someone feels different. It’s giving fixed mindset, and leaves 0 room for varying perspectives. 

2 minutes ago, Tripthelight said:

I agree with you. But to be fair, most of the issues people have with her regarding the era is the literal teasing that she chose to do. My only issue is how defensive some of ya’ll get when someone feels different. It’s giving fixed mindset, and leaves 0 room for varying perspectives. 

Besides the teaser, what teasing has she done though?

 

And I don't think people are defensive because someone feels different, I think people are defensive because it's rather annoying to come into the base and see it in a constant state of turmoil and complaint since before the album even came out, simply because people have placed expectations they should by now have realized are not going to be fulfilled as per their theories.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, swissman said:

Besides the teaser, what teasing has she done though?

I’ll let someone who cares detail this. Lol But perhaps it’s the “vagueness” around the teasing, press release, parkwood twitter post,  and tour interlude “queen moves…” Truthfully,  it’s been a constant edging session with no lube.  

4 minutes ago, Tripthelight said:

I’ll let someone who cares detail this. Lol But perhaps it’s the “vagueness” around the teasing, press release, parkwood twitter post,  and tour interlude “queen moves…” Truthfully,  it’s been a constant edging session with no lube.  

I can get why that might be frustrating, but I still think at least half of that (if not way more) is done to oneself. If she's edging with no lube, people are stroking far longer than they need to be and with very little encouragement from Bey.

 

The few things she's said about the visuals ("a queen moves at her own pace" and "you are the visuals") are anti-tease, a call to let her do her thing, to acknowledge that they will be ready when they are ready.

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Submissions close by the end of next month 

coupled with her adding ticking sounds followed up with a timer going off in the motherboard interlude yesterday 

 

 

Anyway, I think this era and how she has handled it is absolutely iconic, and even just having the music has been a gift...it's by far her most cohesive, start-to-finish consumable album of her career, and is the culmination of an idea she's tried to prove throughout the 2010s: that albums are works of art. Here, she took the thing she used to facilitate that (videos) out of the equation as true proof of concept: yes, albums are works of art.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, swissman said:

I can get why that might be frustrating, but I still think at least half of that (if not way more) is done to oneself. If she's edging with no lube, people are stroking far longer than they need to be and with very little encouragement from Bey.

 

The few things she's said about the visuals ("a queen moves at her own pace" and "you are the visuals") are anti-tease, a call to let her do her thing, to acknowledge that they will be ready when they are ready.

 

 

 

Like I said, I’ve enjoyed the era, regardless of it being kinda dry. But I can understand why people are frustrated. And while some it may be self-induced, it’s ultimately coming from a place of love (hopefully). My point is to let people feel how they feel and keep it moving. 

1 hour ago, Kingdom said:

half of what you said makes the other half does not. Bey has a 25 year old career, her core fanbase from day will never leave her. They are not the ones crying on atrl for visuals and obsessed with chart performances. Bey's music means something to them and they find her artistic output reliable. That is what you need to have to have the type of longevity bey does. Because her cose base will stick with her no matter the changes in the industry and she worked her ass off to secure that base. The dua lipa and billie of the worlds will come and eventually go but bey will remain has she has been for 25 years.

Whew drag me I needed that. Thank you

If she did all the things people wanted her to do, they'd end up bored and she'd end up like Katy Perry

20 minutes ago, Tripthelight said:

Like I said, I’ve enjoyed the era, regardless of it being kinda dry. But I can understand why people are frustrated. And while some it may be self-induced, it’s ultimately coming from a place of love (hopefully). My point is to let people feel how they feel and keep it moving. 

I agree that people should be able to say how they feel, but also think the feelings of those just trying to have a good time discussing Beyoncé (good or bad) should be accepted too, even if that is in the form of disagreeing with the constant negativity.

 

I just think that though people can complain if they want, for THEIR SAKE (not even for the rest of us) they might better enjoy the era if they looked at it a different way or simply stopped expecting things. I'm not sure why anyone would want to remain in a state of upset. If that's what they want, okay, but is that really what they want?

 

It feels like since Beyoncé announced OTRII and then released EIL, this base has not gotten out of a state of "I know better than Beyoncé and since she's not doing what I want I'm going to drag her". We don't take such things from other people in others thread, why should we here, you know?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, swissman said:

I agree that people should be able to say how they feel, but also think the feelings of those just trying to have a good time discussing Beyoncé (good or bad) should be accepted too, even if that is in the form of disagreeing with the constant negativity.

 

I just think though people can complain if they want, that for THEIR SAKE (not even for the rest of us) they might better enjoy the era if they just looked at it a different way. I'm not sure why anyone would want to remain in a state of upset. If that's what they want, okay, but is that really what they want?

 

It feels like since Beyoncé announced OTRII and then released EIL, this base has not gotten out of a state of "I know better than Beyoncé and since she's not doing what I want I'm going to drag her". We don't take such things from other people in others thread, why should we hear, you know?

Yeah…you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. 

14 minutes ago, gisellecarter4 said:

 

Good jump from #17

I don’t think any of the “meltdowns” are serious. We just love to exaggerate for comedy and it’s all coming from a good place. Now things get funnier when  Kiss Ass Hive swarm the Base writing paragraphs calling us bad fans  

The fact remains that this has been a boring era and fans deal with that differently 

From where I see it, we've been getting fed? Different perspectives, I guess.

As a casual Beyoncé fan, I think she’s feeding you guys atm. The tour is absolutely insane and renaissance was a moment. The fact she’s still on this kind of A game this far into her career is astounding, she’s still giving debut era stamina two decades in 

I just watched Homecoming again... it's been 5 years and I still can't get over how good that show is. What a collapse.

She could've easily given us the Gift/Ren singles/greatest hits tour and skipped stuff like POTS or Energy but she went the risky route and is performing the ENTIRE ALBUM while skipping some of the obvious massive hits like Single Ladies or Halo that the gp could've been expecting. Literally who else is doing that 25 years into their career? Fans are getting fed with a near 3 hour show that is all about celebrating this entire body of art. Except Thique. Sorry Thique fans.

 

 

19 minutes ago, perpetual novice said:

As a casual Beyoncé fan, I think she’s feeding you guys atm. The tour is absolutely insane and renaissance was a moment. The fact she’s still on this kind of A game this far into her career is astounding, she’s still giving debut era stamina two decades in 

Yeah, it’s a big reason why I don’t actually think she’s been stingy this era if the actual stuff we are getting is still of very high quality. And super well executed to boot imo

21 minutes ago, perpetual novice said:

As a casual Beyoncé fan, I think she’s feeding you guys atm. The tour is absolutely insane and renaissance was a moment. The fact she’s still on this kind of A game this far into her career is astounding, she’s still giving debut era stamina two decades in 

That's where i'm at too as a fan. This woman once said she would almost retire at 30 and she debuted when she was a child so she could have done it if she wanted. Instead she stayed working hard because fans motivated her to go longer. Now that she is finally taking it slow like she always said she would around that age, some act surprised. Let's not forget there are 3 acts and it's looking like she will tour for all three. Visuals would be nice but after she spent so much energy doing them before and people barely cared, i understand her moving away from that for a while. When you think about it, Beyoncé is not the type to complain but she does take a hint.