23 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said:

Why are you shocked by this?

Because this ain't it in 2023, simple One because she's really the only one who pulls this and it's tired and inconsiderate, two because travel and accommodation are more expensive than ever especially in Europe. She doesn't care though because if the dates don't sell out from fans, scalpers will take care of the rest.

Beyonce and the tour will be absolutely fine & will sell out like usual

 

People don't need 5 months to figure out whether they are going to a Beyonce concert or not

 

Edited January 17, 20233 yr by giRLbye.

I know she wants all the accolades when she snatches AOTY and just to say she did it based on the credibility of the music only, no hype, campaigning or whatever's going on in her head after the Lemonade PTSD.  3 more weeks y'all.

so you’re telling me i’m gonna see beyoncé in about 4 months ? ***** 

 

i still feel like she’ll show a tour teaser at the superbowl, it’ll push tour sales even more on top of the grammys hmm 

 

 

and does that mean we could realistically have the V word around april ? like there’s no way she starts a tour without us knowing the choreos… right ? cause she’s certainly psychotic enough to tour for a month and release the film during pride month too 

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17 hours ago, Scorp said:

Biiitchhhh the taste

Dreams (ft Boots)

 

TRUST i’ll have something to throw at her on tour for not releasing this absolute gem

 

52 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

Beyonce and the tour will be absolutely fine & will sell out like usual

 

People don't need 5 months to figure out whether they are going to a Beyonce concert or not

 

Exactly. Plus the scalpers will absolutely snatch up all of the tickets. How the secondary market (and subsequently seats on the night of the show) pans out is a different story (see Adele in Vegas). 

 

Her tour demand is the one thing I truly believe is un-fallible at this point. 

49 minutes ago, Starshine said:

I know she wants all the accolades when she snatches AOTY and just to say she did it based on the credibility of the music only, no hype, campaigning or whatever's going on in her head after the Lemonade PTSD.  3 more weeks y'all.

That would be lovely if she wins. If she doesn't not..

4 hours ago, cloudbusting said:

the girls are truly losing it 

this video had me cracking up in a lecture today 

Seeing how Rennie did nothing for her recurrent streams, its evident Bey is quite literally "out" these days. Its what she deserves

5 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Seeing how Rennie did nothing for her recurrent streams, its evident Bey is quite literally "out" these days. Its what she deserves

Anything can happen. Miley wasn’t doing great before this either. Act 2 could push everything again. Her lack of presence has damaged her good, but with the visuals and tour coming, maybe it will help.

11 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Seeing how Rennie did nothing for her recurrent streams, its evident Bey is quite literally "out" these days. Its what she deserves

I think the combo of tour + visual + Grammys can have a little impact on it.

 

She made herself too dam invisible and it hurt.

7 minutes ago, Shelter said:

Anything can happen. Miley wasn’t doing great before this either. Act 2 could push everything again. Her lack of presence has damaged her good, but with the visuals and tour coming, maybe it will help.

 

1 minute ago, Rafael said:

I think the combo of tour + visual + Grammys can have a little impact on it.

 

She made herself too dam invisible and it hurt.

No, because nothing will change. As I mentioned earlier: Bey is the antithesis of what is needed to succeed on streaming. Her attitude is so off-putting, itll get her nowhere. Mind you, she can totally become the legacy-diva-act with bad streams if she wants to, but I personally never thought shed lean into that in her early 40s. 

 

I think I’m actually gonna have to skip a couple out of town weddings this year to save on hotel and plane costs… if I want to secure these high demand tickets with these late ass announcements 

 

It’s gonna be a bloodbath. Swifties at least had months to sort out their plans. We get… weeks?

tbh (and I know this is not the only reason) but I kind of feel that RENAISSANCE being so GOOD isn't necessarily incentive to go stream her older, less amazing [and fun] works. Since the album came out, when I want to listen to Beyoncé, I listen to RENAISSANCE. It's just a very repayable album that makes wanted to listen to catalogue tracks less appealing at the moment, at least to me. Not sure if anyone feels similarly or different.

Just now, swissman said:

tbh (and I know this is not the only reason) but I kind of feel that RENAISSANCE being so GOOD isn't necessarily incentive to go stream her older, less amazing [and fun] works. Since the album came out, when I want to listen to Beyoncé, I listen to RENAISSANCE. It's just a very repayable album that makes wanted to listen to catalogue tracks less appealing at the moment, at least to me. Not sure if anyone feels similarly or different.

Thats so presumptious. Its not like Rennie is doing insane numbers - substract Cuff It streams and its looking extremely bad for an album released 6 months ago of Beyonce calibre 

11 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Thats so presumptious. Its not like Rennie is doing insane numbers - substract Cuff It streams and its looking extremely bad for an album released 6 months ago of Beyonce calibre 

Okay but my point was not that everyone on earth is busy listening to RENAISSANCE, it's that the people who are tuned into Beyoncé are probably more tuned into her new work in ways that is not always the same for other popstars who release decent albums but that leave people craving some of their other, better, or more loved material.

 

 

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who gives af about streams other than giving yall talking points with other stans on ATRL to fight about??

 

lamenting about her streams as some sort of "you deserve this" is not the gotcha moment you think it is

 

don't you see whats going on the industry? artists, producers, songwriters...both young & old...some of the biggest hitmakers of our time are selling off their catalogues. why? cuz streaming doesn't pay **** at all. no one cares. only the Top 1% are likely making any money & even their royalty rates have taken a hit in comparison to what they could've grossed 10-20 years ago.

 

Beyonce is not doing back flips to make sure Spotify users keep her in the daily Top 10 (which is what this is really about) when its meaningless & yields no results. didn't she already address this? "if I gave 2 fucks about streaming numbers...i would've put Lemonade on Spotify....F***K YOU!" 

5 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

 

No, because nothing will change. As I mentioned earlier: Bey is the antithesis of what is needed to succeed on streaming. Her attitude is so off-putting, itll get her nowhere. Mind you, she can totally become the legacy-diva-act with bad streams if she wants to, but I personally never thought shed lean into that in her early 40s. 

 

I think you’re wrong, but we’ll see. Like I said Miley was doing worse. Not that I expect Miley numbers but a boost could happen if handled right. 
 

3 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Thats so presumptious. Its not like Rennie is doing insane numbers - substract Cuff It streams and its looking extremely bad for an album released 6 months ago of Beyonce calibre 

1 billion is good for 6 months, what are you doing lol no other female from Beyoncé’s era is doing that. 

@Mercurio if you can share anything, even rumors, about European June dates please let us know. Specifically June 17-21. I need to know if she'll be performing anywhere in the UK or Europe on any of those nights

Ya outside of ATRL, very few, if any people will know who is doing what streaming-wise, and all that shows is what people are listening to AT THE MOMENT. And it's not even "people", it's "Spotify users" which do not represent all demographics. It's very much just stan-fodder to try and rate artists and have something over another.

Renaissance would need 10 billion streams alone on Spotify in order to match the check Beyonce is about to get in 1 hour this Saturday.

 

you simply can't be serious about Beyonce pouring time & effort and the reward is peanuts

 

everybody is selling off their catalogues for this reason...Spotify numbers will never be worth a brag to anyone other than pop girl stans

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5 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

who gives af about streams other than giving yall talking points with other stans on ATRL to fight about??

 

lamenting about her streams as some sort of "you deserve this" is not the gotcha moment you think it is

 

don't you see whats going on the industry? artists, producers, songwriters...both young & old...some of the biggest hitmakers of our time are selling off their catalogues. why? cuz streaming doesn't pay **** at all. no one cares. only the Top 1% are likely making any money & even their royalty rates have taken a hit in comparison to what they could've grossed 10-20 years ago.

 

Beyonce is not doing back flips to make sure Spotify users keep her in the daily Top 10 (which is what this is really about) when its meaningless & yields no results. didn't she already address this? "if I gave 2 fucks about streaming numbers...i would've put Lemonade on Spotify....F***K YOU!" 

That doesnt oppose what I said but only confirms it - shes become a legacy act at age 41. Which again is fine, I just didnt think it would happen that early

12 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

Renaissance would need 10 billion streams alone on Spotify in order to match the check Beyonce is about to get in 1 hour this Saturday.

 

you simply can't be serious about Beyonce pouring time & effort and the reward is peanuts

 

everybody is selling off their catalogues for this reason...Spotify numbers will never be worth a brag to anyone other than pop girl stans

Its the best metric to show popularity, dont act obtuse

4 minutes ago, Mercurio said:

I haven’t seen the new routing for the tour yet, however, the number of shows to be announced in the EU have decreased to about 13. 3 UK, 3 Germany, 1 in everywhere else. I think they’ll eventually add more because the demand will be overwhelming, but it’ll be down to Bey if she wants to do it. 

Thank you That means it's either Rome or Milan. F*ck

28 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

who gives af about streams other than giving yall talking points with other stans on ATRL to fight about??

 

lamenting about her streams as some sort of "you deserve this" is not the gotcha moment you think it is

 

don't you see whats going on the industry? artists, producers, songwriters...both young & old...some of the biggest hitmakers of our time are selling off their catalogues. why? cuz streaming doesn't pay **** at all. no one cares. only the Top 1% are likely making any money & even their royalty rates have taken a hit in comparison to what they could've grossed 10-20 years ago.

 

Beyonce is not doing back flips to make sure Spotify users keep her in the daily Top 10 (which is what this is really about) when its meaningless & yields no results. didn't she already address this? "if I gave 2 fucks about streaming numbers...i would've put Lemonade on Spotify....F***K YOU!" 

Honestly, this is tea!