Would she really throw club Renaissance parties and a huge birthday bash if she was dealing with serious family issues? Idk That wouldn’t explain at least one music video not being released since July.

2 hours ago, sillycilla said:

I really don’t think the tour will sell out fast. I’d be pleasantly surprised if it was. She’s done literally nothing to maintain the era. All Taylor had to do was release two videos and announce a tour to keep the fans fed. Like…

less bum whores on Ticketmaster = better tickets for me 

There’s something to be said about announcing a tour/putting it on sale during the holidays… either ppl are gifting tickets or they’ll be too broke from Xmas to buy tickets right away..

 

 

I kinda hope she calls the tour the Club Renaissance Tour. That sounds so iconic and she could go full out with visuals with the disco/studio 54 theme

2 hours ago, sillycilla said:

Would she really throw club Renaissance parties and a huge birthday bash if she was dealing with serious family issues? Idk That wouldn’t explain at least one music video not being released since July.

Which means this whole thing is definitely planned.

I kind of just wish she didn't wait to announce things or do the whole surprise job thing.

 

Transparency started out great this era, then quickly stopped.

She still a touring force so I doubt she will have any real struggles. My whole thing is she could easily have more packed + multiple stadium shows if she really cared about this era.

 

either way I’m getting a tix 

Does anyone else think that the tour might be for 2024? While the era (the other Acts in particular) might come into fruition in 2023?

Pink just announced her North America shows. 21 stadiums!! 
https://twitter.com/pink/status/1592171771951816704?s=46&t=xf_-aXchErioSzrY2qzQSw

Bey’s tour gonna be fine in the US but the international dates are a question mark. Being a recluse and a stadium headliner just don’t go well together. Heck, even the 80 years old from Rolling Stones make an effort to connect with fans and promote despite being literally the biggest touring act of all time. 

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4 hours ago, Devin said:

Could it be shes dealing with personal or family issues and that’s where her focus been?

I REALLY think this is it and for that reason I will, without additional context, put my mind at ease.

 

Family first always.

 

(lets remember what she dealt with in the past and opened up about in later docs)

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3 hours ago, Mr. Specialist said:

I didn’t think about this. That’s a possibility. 

 

6 minutes ago, satellites.™ said:

I REALLY think this is it and for that reason I will, without additional context, put my mind at ease.

 

Family first always.

 

(lets remember what she dealt with in the past and opened up about in later docs)

Yeah I feel like she has a lot of her plate rn. Like a mixture of both family and personal issues. 
 

It could be a family situation where she needs to be more present/involved. So instead of wasting our time she just gave us the album. Or could be her getting back into the mindset of touring, learning new choreo, aging-learning what your body can take, etc. Me rewatching Beychella kinda made me consider that. 

45 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Pink just announced her North America shows. 21 stadiums!! 
https://twitter.com/pink/status/1592171771951816704?s=46&t=xf_-aXchErioSzrY2qzQSw

Bey’s tour gonna be fine in the US but the international dates are a question mark. Being a recluse and a stadium headliner just don’t go well together. Heck, even the 80 years old from Rolling Stones make an effort to connect with fans and promote despite being literally the biggest touring act of all time. 

Not P!nk finally doing a stadium tour in US. 

Y’all need to stop with these someone in her family must be suffering excuses

She is just a very unprepared person. She has no problem flying to Paris for a party or going to another one with Jeff Bezos.

If there’s something major going on, she needs to be forthcoming.

34 minutes ago, Devin said:

 

Yeah I feel like she has a lot of her plate rn. Like a mixture of both family and personal issues. 
 

It could be a family situation where she needs to be more present/involved. So instead of wasting our time she just gave us the album. Or could be her getting back into the mindset of touring, learning new choreo, aging-learning what your body can take, etc. Me rewatching Beychella kinda made me consider that. 

 

26 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Y’all need to stop with these someone in her family must be suffering excuses

She is just a very unprepared person. She has no problem flying to Paris for a party or going to another one with Jeff Bezos.

If there’s something major going on, she needs to be forthcoming.

It's really bad, huh?

Regardless of whatever is going on, I think people just want transparency. 

 

The album spent 14 weeks in the Top 10 and its gone platinum and crossed 1B streams on Spotify. Those are all amazing feats BUT the album had far greater potential.

 

I'm still looking forward to the visuals, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they come FAR too late and do nothing for the album in the long run as far as chart performance.

 

Beyoncé and her team are running her career the way they want and if that behavior comes back to bite them, then it's their L to take.

 

We're already seeing how her refusal to make her music accessible has hurt her strength on streaming platforms like Spotify, and how her albums that lack true hits like Lemonade are pulling in less streams than albums like TWOTW (1999) and IA...SF (2008). 

 

If it's her prerogative to be elusive, not promote or perform and either let potential hits fail or underperform purposefully then she's gonna have to be ok with the fact that her catalogue streams will continue to suffer as well.

 

What we're left with is touring, but the lengthy catalogue of hits she has and her reputation as a performer will always keep her near the top in that department.

 

Beyoncé still feels current, but i don't think I can think of another act who sp badly wants to be a legacy act. She runs her career like she's a peer of the Stones, McCartney or Stevie Wonder. 

 

I just don't get it.

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2 hours ago, Blue Rose said:

Pink just announced her North America shows. 21 stadiums!! 
https://twitter.com/pink/status/1592171771951816704?s=46&t=xf_-aXchErioSzrY2qzQSw

 

Like all but 1 of these shows are baseball, not football, stadiums... so zero conflict with Bey 

44 minutes ago, Planet Mars said:

Regardless of whatever is going on, I think people just want transparency. 

 

The album spent 14 weeks in the Top 10 and its gone platinum and crossed 1B streams on Spotify. Those are all amazing feats BUT the album had far greater potential.

 

I'm still looking forward to the visuals, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they come FAR too late and do nothing for the album in the long run as far as chart performance.

 

Beyoncé and her team are running her career the way they want and if that behavior comes back to bite them, then it's their L to take.

 

We're already seeing how her refusal to make her music accessible has hurt her strength on streaming platforms like Spotify, and how her albums that lack true hits like Lemonade are pulling in less streams than albums like TWOTW (1999) and IA...SF (2008). 

 

If it's her prerogative to be elusive, not promote or perform and either let potential hits fail or underperform purposefully then she's gonna have to be ok with the fact that her catalogue streams will continue to suffer as well.

 

What we're left with is touring, but the lengthy catalogue of hits she has and her reputation as a performer will always keep her near the top in that department.

 

Beyoncé still feels current, but i don't think I can think of another act who sp badly wants to be a legacy act. She runs her career like she's a peer of the Stones, McCartney or Stevie Wonder. 

 

I just don't get it.

Thats not even true cause even they show up and promote their latest albums, do Interviews, etc. Even Aretha at 70+ years old promoted her latest Cover album and performed. There is literally no excuses for Bey pulling an Enya on us

Okay guys, I know it's painful to adjust to the reality that Beyoncé does not want to play the pop star game anymore despite arguably being the best in terms of quality. It's a difficult reality for us fans to adjust to. But let's not forget that she has said so in her own words that she wants to take the Prince and Sade route(not even stevie wonder or Paul McCartney). She wants to let the music do what it does and move. Beyoncé sacrificed a lot of her early life in pursuit of her dreams of following MJ's footsteps to pop stardom. But since she's had a family she wants to, to the best of her abilities, cherish and experience that fully. It is remarkable that our workaholic fave still, 25 years in, with a focus on family and business, gives her *art* her everything and creates stellar projects. 

 

 

But I know. It is frustrating and this era feels so dry in that sense. Also I agree that things have clearly not gone entirely to plan cuz we got a teaser (the title never made sense too) 3 whole months ago. So clearly something is up. And that adds to the irritation cuz there's no transparency. 

 

However, I'm a little over it (in a sad way) but I also trust bey. This is still just act i and clearly she has a larger vision to execute. She's testing my patience true but I also value it because when it comes down to it, she has never let me down in terms of her actual art. 

 

 

Finally in terms of rumor guessing and ****. 

 

I still believe we will get act ii before the visuals. 

 

And act iii can be the documentary cum visuals that can be launched alongside apple's big new rumored meta/mixed reality world. It is rumored for a launch first half 2023. It could be an epic launch for her.

11 minutes ago, Machete said:

Like all but 1 of these shows are baseball, not football, stadiums... so zero conflict with Bey 

I just posted that to show yet another artist who has their **** together… you’re wrong, Ive counted 3 football stadiums but that doesn’t matter since booking baseball stadiums is harder than booking football stadiums (summer is baseball season, winter is football season) With Pink now having snatched all the baseball dates, it’s really not looking good for Miss Bey  

By the way, OTR1 had baseball venues. The problem is that the setup is weird and the acoustics are trash. That’s why it’s best to avoid them.

I’m sure her dates are already reserved 

Have not been successful once using this verified fan system on Ticketmaster. I’m very worried I’m gonna end up paying insane resale prices 

@benyonce and I went to Dua's Future Nostalgia tour last night, she really killed it and you can see why this tour has been so popular.

 

But if anything, it made me miss seeing Bey perform even more   Funnily enough, the Tiffany Ad played on the big screen multiple times in the lead up to Dua starting... 

Basé is dead. Wake up, she’s about to make history  

2 minutes ago, Destiny said:

Basé is dead. Wake up, she’s about to make history  

Why?