*-ChriZ-* Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shelter said: I would vote for Adele if I could. I’m fuming Me too. I'd promise her the win and then let her sit front row and put the camera right on her face. After the show, I'd go to her and say "unfortunate if promises arent kept, right?"
Golden Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 1 minute ago, *-ChriZ-* said: Me too. I'd promise her the win and then let her sit front row and put the camera right on her face. After the show, I'd go to her and say "unfortunate if promises arent kept, right?" That's straight up bullying..... I love it
*-ChriZ-* Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kh-Loud said: Rihanna’s wealth probably did something to her; guess It’s ART & CURRENCY instead of ART, NOT CHART! We need Artiśt Solange to knock some sense back in her What we need is our dear Columbia intern to take things into their hands and just upload it all without further notice on Youtube. Sure, Bey would be horrified and would throw a tantrum, but its what she deserves
yonsé Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: I've been loud about the Netflix thing, even through the meltdowns and dramatic hot takes. BUT... I'm wondering whether they have her a "First Look" deal like they've been doing with a lot of the big comedians and actors. Basically, they have first dibs on her output, but if if they pass or can't come to an alignment ($$$) she's free to take it elsewhere? That would be a scenario where dropping it elsewhere could be plausible. So could another streamer buying them out. So, if she has a 100 million deal with Apple, they could (in essence) buy out her remaining commitment to bring her over to them. Messy, but possible. Like someone else, I actually believe most of everything we've read (good, bad, and otherwise). Many things can be true at once. I just don't buy Summer 2023 for Ren act 1 visuals. Like, she'd actually be on tour by that period. Not only would people have moved on from the music, but all the big reveals the visuals would bring would essentially be pre-empted with the tour choreo and visuals. Nah. I think Netflix is struggling financially and can’t pay out what she’s asking for. They have had some really rough patches and lots of layoffs recently, so it’s possible they renegotiated the deal to a first-look deal or canned it altogether after hearing her asking amount for the film.
Shelter Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 1 minute ago, *-ChriZ-* said: Me too. I'd promise her the win and then let her sit front row and put the camera right on her face. After the show, I'd go to her and say "unfortunate if promises arent kept, right?" It’s probably going to happen anyway. Honestly thought we were getting closer to the videos. Us waiting for BMS to drop all those months. I probably won’t even watch next year. I didn’t with BIK.
Shelter Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 Just now, yonsé said: I think Netflix is struggling financially and can’t pay out what she’s asking for. They have had some really rough patches and lots of layoffs recently, so it’s possible they renegotiated the deal to a first-look deal or canned it altogether after hearing her asking amount for the film. This is most likely. I’d say she is asking a lot for it.
Cbreezy Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Bicassie said: She really does not give a **** about her fans I don't really like takes like this. Or should I say the "framing of takes like this". The music business is not a fairytale of service from the Queen to her servants. It's about commerce. Granted there's no Bey without us (the stans), she theoretically doesn't OWE us anything. Same way, we don't actually OWE her anything. IMO, it's not a case of "not giving an eff about the fans", but more about her being overly invested in flexing and coinage. Amazon, Apple, HBO, hell even Hulu (owned by Disney), would all shell out HUGE sums to her, but none of them will give her the cultural reach she'd get from a Netflix. It's seeming more and more like they shot the full thing and are now shopping it. Which actually wouldn't be new, as that was apparently the case with Lemonade and BIK. But this is new terrain of wild to have the music actually OUT and a deal seemingly not firmly in place BEFORE July 29th. Edited October 12, 2022 by Cbreezy
Machete Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Otter said: Why would you guys think she's scrambling to find a distributor Because the “insiders” here are literally saying she is shopping around for the best offer and adamant on the offer being the highest Time to log out, the Bey defenders at every chance are coming. Or maybe I should stay and see how y’all turn a clear money-chasing move into “she just cares about the arts!!!”
Golden Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: Me too. I'd promise her the win and then let her sit front row and put the camera right on her face. After the show, I'd go to her and say "unfortunate if promises arent kept, right?" I'd give her the La La Land treatment. Announce her as winner and then 2 minutes later announce the mistake and that Adele wins. https://i.imgur.com/OE28L8P.gif
QueenBeyoncé Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 Apple deal would better than Netflix anyway… esp for streams
QueenBeyoncé Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 Beyoncé is a business, she gon take care of business. Sucks, but gotta respect it.
BnPac Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 Whatever is going on, just release BMS and CI, Queen.
Machete Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, QueenBeyoncé said: Apple deal would better than Netflix anyway… esp for streams Apple TV does not even have 1/5th the subscribers of Netflix, and Apple TV streams don’t impact charts (nor do any other film service) HBO Max isn’t a BAD move, it is very popular in the US, but it literally doesn’t exist anywhere else besides LatAm (who hardly uses her outside of Brazil).
QueenBeyoncé Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 1 minute ago, BnPac said: Whatever is going on, just release BMS and CI, Queen. This
Shelter Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 Just now, Machete said: Apple TV does not even have 1/5th the subscribers of Netflix, and Apple TV streams don’t impact charts (nor do any other film service) HBO Max isn’t a BAD move, it is very popular in the US, but it literally doesn’t exist anywhere else besides LatAm (who hardly uses her outside of Brazil). Lemonade was sold to different networks WW, I would assume it’s the same.
Bey Admired Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 I think we would all forgive her if she released videos for BMS and Cuff It, but she hasn’t given us ANYTHING We know that something is coming, but we can only wait so long before it feels like we’re being taken for granted! I envisioned a million ways in which this era could turn out, but I would have never in a million years predicted this catastrophe. It’s quite simply diabolical! If there’s any album that is meant to be accompanied by visuals, it’s this one!
QueenBeyoncé Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Machete said: Apple TV does not even have 1/5th the subscribers of Netflix, and Apple TV streams don’t impact charts (nor do any other film service) HBO Max isn’t a BAD move, it is very popular in the US, but it literally doesn’t exist anywhere else besides LatAm (who hardly uses her outside of Brazil). I know Apple TV streams don’t impact the chart. But Apple Music will def promote the album on the front page, thats what I’m referring to.
Cbreezy Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 1 minute ago, QueenBeyoncé said: Apple deal would better than Netflix anyway… esp for streams Only if it's some kind of never-before-seen type of synergy between Apple Music and Apple TV+. Literally NO ONE watches their streaming service, so on the one hand it will be a big get for them (to promote it) but it just won't give Bey the reach one might think it would. This (Bey's antics) are really giving a Tidal situation just with more premium players.
Cbreezy Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Shelter said: Lemonade was sold to different networks WW, I would assume it’s the same. That's the thing...IMO, this is where she started going wrong. ST gave her that all at once BOOM everywhere. Lemonade saw her take steps back IMO. Homecoming..again BOOM (with impact being universal)...only to take two steps back with BIK on a niche platform.
ShouldersSideways Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 I cannot believe y'all are in total meltdown mode again over a couple of posts that may not even be accurate
Otter Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, QueenBeyoncé said: Apple deal would better than Netflix anyway… esp for streams No one uses Apple TV outside of the states please...
*-ChriZ-* Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 34 minutes ago, Golden said: I'd give her the La La Land treatment. Announce her as winner and then 2 minutes later announce the mistake and that Adele wins. https://i.imgur.com/OE28L8P.gif Sounds great, ill take care of the smear campaign and let all collaborators come forward to accuse her of theft and not keeping her words and being a big old Diva who is money-hungry. I'll send the article to the Sun, New York Times, Rolling Stones, etc.. obviously post her losing so that the headlines are big and negative
Mitsouko Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 One wonders what subsequent eras will be like. If you're gonna take long breaks and lean fully into the royalty/deity thing, then you better be firing on all cylinders when you do decide to come back. In my opinion. But something's not right idk. Part of me feels like eventually we'll hear about some serious behind the scenes messery at Parkwood/Columbia or within her team a la Wendy Williams' last season (no, I don't mean Beyoncé is an alcoholic) or Gaga's team exodus in the early 2010s. Because nothing about this era outside of the music makes sense or rings true. EDIT: And I know this discourse will go on for pages sksksk I'm gonna try to refrain from partaking in it because it bums me out ngl
Otter Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Bey Admired said: I think we would all forgive her if she released videos for BMS and Cuff It, but she hasn’t given us ANYTHING We know that something is coming, but we can only wait so long before it feels like we’re being taken for granted! I envisioned a million ways in which this era could turn out, but I would have never in a million years predicted this catastrophe. It’s quite simply diabolical! If there’s any album that is meant to be accompanied by visuals, it’s this one! She's not going to ruin highlights of the projects months ahead of time, chill. And I disagree with your last line: ST- Visuals were a huge part of its impact and acclaim. Lemonade- Visuals were core to its story telling, sales and her growth as an artist. Rennaissance is actually the album that needs visuals the least. There is no narrative, youtube is dying, people are kind of past visual albums anyway
*-ChriZ-* Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mitsouko said: One wonders what subsequent eras will be like. If you're gonna take long breaks and lean fully into the royalty/deity thing, then you better be firing on all cylinders when you do decide to come back. In my opinion. But something's not right idk. Part of me feels like eventually we'll hear about some serious behind the scenes messery at Parkwood/Columbia or within her team a la Wendy Williams' last season (no, I don't mean Beyoncé is an alcoholic) or Gaga's team exodus in the early 2010s. Because nothing about this era outside of the music makes sense or rings true. Honestly the whole "lets try to get a streaming pay as much as possible and not backing off expectations" sounds very Bey, thats why we react the way we do. She definitely gives off that vibe. It has nothing to do with it not being ready, but her looking for the best cash grab. Thats why I hope they all dont pay her enough and she steps down a notch
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