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32 minutes ago, Instant said:

Pfft, Apple Music? There is a reason why some users always post in the Streaming thread AM's positions without urban songs because usually all of the top 30 on AM is always filled with album tracks of either Drake or some other R&B nobody.

 

And the Youtube situation is no different from Spotify situation. A song is spammed on radio -> that song rises on Spotify and Youtube (if people like that song). I mean even the streaming poison Gaga would've managed to sneak in her song into top 25 on Hot 100 that way.

 

And I love how you justify radio pushing down people's throats the unwanted song by Ed Sheeran just because his previous hit was enormously popular and is still getting a shitload of airplay

 

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It's the other way round sis unless you're a nobody/new artist :cm:

And urban songs are doing good on AM because that's what people like nowadays. hard to accept I guess :sorry: (in fact they're slaying everywhere but on the no factor itunes) 

 

And radio playing COTH because of SOY is normal and happened to everyone. I wonder how many of these pop girls songs outsold COTH btw :celestial5: (which would be selling as much as Malibu, The Cure and Bad Liar if discounted and same streaming points if it was TTH and major playlists)

 

6 minutes ago, tittieslap said:

Didn't Selena Gomez have a string of pop hits with her last album + the collabs with Puth and Kygo? 

didn't KEWK flop? 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

It's the other way round sis unless you're a nobody/new artist :cm:

And urban songs are doing good on AM because that's what people like nowadays. hard to accept I guess :sorry: 

 

And radio playing COTH because of SOY is normal and happened to everyone. I wonder how many of these pop girls songs outsold COTH btw :celestial5: (which would be selling as much as Malibu, The Cure and Bad Liar if discounted and same streaming points if it was TTH and major playlists)

 

didn't KEWK flop? 

 

 

So? That was her only under-performance. She still nailed two more hits afterwards.

 

 

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1 minute ago, tittieslap said:

So? That was her only under-performance. She still nailed two more hits afterwards.

and people still don't like Bad Liar/like Shawn's song more :michael: 

 

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8 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

It's the other way round sis unless you're a nobody/new artist :cm:

And urban songs are doing good on AM because that's what people like nowadays. hard to accept I guess :sorry: (in fact they're slaying everywhere but on the no factor itunes) 

 

And radio playing COTH because of SOY is normal and happened to everyone. I wonder how many of these pop girls songs outsold COTH btw :celestial5: (which would be selling as much as Malibu, The Cure and Bad Liar if discounted and same streaming points if it was TTH and major playlists)

 

didn't KEWK flop? 

 

 

I guess that makes Miley, Selena and some others nobodies. Not to mention that Alessia Cara always had terrible iTunes and Spotify performance with her solo singles despite 6-months long Spotify spamming and etc. but it didn't bother radio stations.

 

Radio stations are biased af, Idk why is it so hard to accept?

 

And pretty sure Ed Sheeran doesn't need TTH to send his song on top of Spotify US? Where are people from those 101m AI, what are they doing instead of purchasing and streaming COTH?

 

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@Starkboy is right. It's pretty clear that programmers are diverting their attention towards streaming.

 

The follow-up to a smash single always has momentum & an advantage on radio, but like @One Nation said that's not a guarantee of another smash. If we want to talk about Alessia, who radio is apparently biased towards, Wild Things followed Here (a pop radio #1) by peaking at #13 on pop and dropping out of the top 100 two months later. 

 

The reason that COTH is doing terribly on Spotify is because it was streamed so much out of the gate (like many 2nd and 3rd singles nowadays from big albums, LOYALTY. and I Feel It Coming are other good examples) that by the time it was pushed to radio and promoted as a single it had already fallen far down on streaming charts. 

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8 minutes ago, Instant said:

I guess that makes Miley, Selena and some others nobodies. Not to mention that Alessia Cara always had terrible iTunes and Spotify performance with her solo singles despite 6-months long Spotify spamming and etc. but it didn't bother radio stations.

 

Radio stations are biased af, Idk why is it so hard to accept?

 

And pretty sure Ed Sheeran doesn't need TTH to send his song on top of Spotify US? Where are people from those 101m AI, what are they doing instead of purchasing and streaming COTH?

 

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Alessia is a new artist tho :toofunny2: She also slayed the callouts scores with both STYB and Stay (I think Here too)

 

US Spotify streams

Castle on the Hill : 75M streams

Malibu : 35M streams

The Cure : 30M streams

Bad Liar : 27M streams

 

US Sales

Castle on the Hill : 550k copies

Malibu : 303k copies

The Cure : 278k copies

Bad Liar : 169k copies

 

COTH never discounted unlike the rest ;)

COTH not being a lead single/standalone single unlike the rest ;) 

 

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19 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

and people still don't like Bad Liar/like Shawn's song more :michael: 

 

And that's bull****. Because if they were whoring out the song regardless of the initial metrics on streaming or iTunes (like they do with a select few artists), then the story would be "the GP loves it".

 

Top 40 doesn't make sense, but that's not new. Bad Liar sounds like the kind of song that would solidify Gomez into the pop industry but bland acoustic pop is the "better example".

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36 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

Alessia is a new artist tho :toofunny2: She also slayed the callouts scores with both STYB and Stay (I think Here too)

 

US Spotify streams

Castle on the Hill : 75M streams

Malibu : 35M streams

The Cure : 30M streams

Bad Liar : 27M streams

 

US Sales

Castle on the Hill : 550k copies

Malibu : 303k copies

The Cure : 278k copies

Bad Liar : 169k copies

 

COTH never discounted unlike the rest ;)

COTH not being a lead single/standalone single unlike the rest ;) 

 

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COTH has been out for 5 months, your comparison is with singles that has been out for just a single month (excluding The Cure).

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I just find it weird how the GP/Radio support a pop girl when there's a DJ attached to the song, but when it's a solo song, they get no support (as seen in the It Ain't Me/Bad Liar situation)

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So glad to see the Mediabase charts on AllAccess back up again. 

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2 hours ago, Thickorita said:

I just find it weird how the GP/Radio support a pop girl when there's a DJ attached to the song, but when it's a solo song, they get no support (as seen in the It Ain't Me/Bad Liar situation)

I think it's because bad liar isn't exactly a good song. 

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Bad Liar annoys me and sounds even more annoying on the radio

The entire "im trying im trying im trying" is agonizing

 

Some songs just dont translate well on radio :cm:

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5 hours ago, Starkboy said:

Alessia is a new artist tho :toofunny2: She also slayed the callouts scores with both STYB and Stay (I think Here too)

 

US Spotify streams

Castle on the Hill : 75M streams

Malibu : 35M streams

The Cure : 30M streams

Bad Liar : 27M streams

 

US Sales

Castle on the Hill : 550k copies

Malibu : 303k copies

The Cure : 278k copies

Bad Liar : 169k copies

 

COTH never discounted unlike the rest ;)

COTH not being a lead single/standalone single unlike the rest ;) 

 

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Actually 591k copies.

 

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2 hours ago, Sinister said:

Bad Liar annoys me and sounds even more annoying on the radio

The entire "im trying im trying im trying" is agonizing

 

Some songs just dont translate well on radio :cm:

For me it's the best part :o

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1 BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like: 190.207 (+ 0.338)

2 ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You: 159.158 (- 0.587)

3 LUIS FONSI & DADDY YANKEE - Despacito f/Justin Bieber: 156.221 (+ 1.887) 

4 ZEDD & ALESSIA CARA - Stay: 155.760 (- 0.379) 

5 THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This: 144.812 (- 1.146)

6 DJ KHALED - I'm The One f/Bieber/Quavo…: 138.986 (+ 0.683)

7 KYGO X SELENA GOMEZ - It Ain't Me: 123.083 (- 0.287)

8 JAMES ARTHUR - Say You Won't Let Go: 114.312 (- 1.607)

9 IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer: 108.377 (+ 1.086)

10 ED SHEERAN - Castle On The Hill: 102.391 (+ 0.562)

 

11 JULIA MICHAELS - Issues: 100.586 (- 0.565)

12 SAM HUNT - Body Like A Back Road: 99.150 (+ 0.635)

13 CHILDISH GAMBINO - Redbone: 94.215 (+ 0.638)

14 KENDRICK LAMAR - HUMBLE.: 92.246 (- 0.421)

15 SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me...: 90.317 (+ 2.723) ▲

16 HALSEY - Now Or Never: 89.262 (+ 0.338) 

17 DJ KHALED F/RIHANNA/B. TILLER - Wild Thoughts: 68.589 (+ 3.330)

18 FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee: 65.310 (+ 1.217) 

19 BLAKE SHELTON - Every Time I Hear That Song: 64.874 (+ 1.155) 

20 ALESSIA CARA - Scars To Your Beautiful: 63.560 (- 1.220) 

 

THOMAS RHETT - Craving You f/Maren Morris: 59.586 (+ 0.465)

DYLAN SCOTT - My Girl: 58.044 (+ 0.854)

CHARLIE PUTH - Attention: 57.574 (+ 2.423)

NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands: 51.961 (+ 1.048)

KEITH URBAN - The Fighter f/Carrie Underwood: 49.299 (+ 0.295)

DAVID GUETTA - 2U f/Justin Bieber: 47.344 (+ 0.238)

MILEY CYRUS - Malibu: 45.371 (+ 0.681)

SELENA GOMEZ - Bad Liar: 43.787 (+ 0.312)

POST MALONE - Congratulations f/Quavo: 37.766 (+ 0.260)

LADY GAGA - The Cure: 35.649 (- 0.141)

LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo: 28.091 (+ 0.668)

BRUNO MARS - Versace On The Floor: 27.202 (+ 1.069)

CAMILA CABELLO - Crying In The Club: 26.179 (- 0.025)

CALVIN HARRIS - Feels f/Pharrell/Katy/Big Sean: 23.961 (+ 1.052)

KENDRICK LAMAR - LOYALTY. f/ Rihanna: 14.924 (+ 0.522)

FIFTH HARMONY - Down f/Gucci Mane: 13.828 (+ 0.135)

KILLERS - The Man: 6.394 (+ 0.106)

DRAKE - Signs: 2.322 (+ 0.120)

KATY PERRY - Save As Draft: 1.792 (+ 0.377)

 

TWIL :deadbanana3: 

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It looks like Wild Thoughts will be stuck at #17 for a week.:dies:

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I hope Now or Never's blatant payola is finally over.

"Attention" is finally on power rotation, fly king fly! :duca: Pop needs to pick up "Redbone" once and for all, the racism  :shakeno: 

 

 

Kworb now showing the full top 100 :clap3: 

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1 hour ago, Starkboy said:

16 HALSEY - Now Or Never: 89.262 (+ 0.338) 

Wasn't this going to be the next radio #1 a few days ago? :fan: 

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Considering how much airplay it has...TWIL got just as big of an increase as VOTF

 

I still have faith in the smash to be

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Both king Shawn & Charlie smashing on radio and iTunes!!!

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Top 10 hot 100 pleaseee

:weeps:

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MB Pop Radio Callouts - Top 5 For Net Positive:

1) Say You Won't Let Go

2) Despacito

3) Stay

4) Slow Hands

5) Castle On The Hill :fan:

6) Shape of You :fan:

 

last 

18) Bad Liar :fan:

 

MB Hac Radio Callouts - Top 5 For Net Positive:

1) Something Just Like This

2) Body Like a Back Road

3) Despacito

3) Say You Won't Let Go

5) Castle On The Hill :fan:

6) Shape of You :fan:

7) Believer

8) Stay

 

http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/call/callout.asp

 

Bruno still #1 on Urban and #3 on Rhythmic with That's What I Like :fan:

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10 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

MB Pop Radio Callouts - Top 5 For Net Positive:

1) Say You Won't Let Go

2) Despacito

3) Stay

4) Slow Hands

5) Castle On The Hill :fan:

6) Shape of You :fan:

 

last 

18) Bad Liar :fan:

 

MB Hac Radio Callouts - Top 5 For Net Positive:

1) Something Just Like This

2) Body Like a Back Road

3) Despacito

3) Say You Won't Let Go

5) Castle On The Hill :fan:

6) Shape of You :fan:

7) Believer

8) Stay

 

http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/call/callout.asp

 

Bruno still #1 on Urban and #3 on Rhythmic with That's What I Like :fan:

when will malibu debut? :emofish:

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VOTF already almost 30M damn.

 

once TWIL falls it could explode

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How much farther can despacito go? Like is it gonna get to 200m AI? I can't imagine a Spanish song getting that high but radio is obsessed with Bieber so you never know 

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Bad Liar's callouts aren't surprising. Its radio performance is weak for any act, but very weak for Selena who radio has always pushed even when her other metrics were weak. I think a more R&B single will bring radio back on board for her.

 

I'm curious if Bad Liar's scores are worse than Pretty Girls and Focus. Those were some shockingly bad callout scores.

 

Edit - I got bored and looked up most of the lowest net positives in the last 3 years:

Net Positives:
22.5 - Bad Liar
20.7 - Dear Future Husband
20.0 - Hotline Bling
19.9 - Too Good
19.4 - This Is How We Do
19.1 - I Know What You Did Last Summer
18.8 - Trap Queen
18.5 - Truffle Butter
18.3 - My Way [Fetty Wap]
18.2 - White Iverson
18.0 - Lips Are Movin
16.8 - New Americana
16.4 - Work From Home
15.7 - Anaconda
15.2 - Green Light
14.7 - Fight Song
14.6 - LA Love
13.7 - Don’t Mind
11.3 - Kill Em With Kidness
7.4 - Me Too
7.1 - Wiggle
7.0 - Work ft. Drake
6.3 - I Really Like You
4.7 - Get Ugly
2.5 - I Don’t **** With You
1.3 - Panda
0.0 - Focus
-1.4 - Watch Me
-3.4 - Rude
-3.7 - All About That Bass
-5.7 - Pretty Girls

 

The bold. Radio was so rude to them. :jonny:

I think Pretty Girls was the only negative not nearing peak-heavy burn. 

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