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K-Pop Thread 2025

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SM Entertainment Responds to Threats Against aespa's Winter: Complaint Filed, Security Strengthened

@sunny and what if i imply you are the one sending threats against Winter?
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    nnn the popup message nnn.. thought i was getting banned for a sec 

  • I'm going to eat the spaghetti today while reading all the meltdowns. I'm still not going to stream Spaghetti though but I will choose to stream this instead     After all the

  • aespa didn't chart but guess what, we're STILL not streaming Stray Kids  

6 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

Why do I feel like majority of 5th gen groups kinda disappeared

What are they doing

 

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flopping and having scandals 

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13 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

expecting everyone to get the same amount of exposure in a NINE member group is just unrealistic

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this.

 

some members probably don't even want to sing on the song :suburban:

4 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said:

flopping and having scandals 

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This is a way to start a career...

 

 

It seems to me K-pop peaked internationally. Who got a big fandom while they could: lucky 'em. Who needs to build it up from the start now will face problems 

 

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Lowkey obsessed with Jin's teasers :deadbanana4:

Lemme enter my ARMY era for a couple of weeks

 

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15 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

Why do I feel like majority of 5th gen groups kinda disappeared

What are they doing

 

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The main event of 5th gen aka BABYMONSTER are busy on tour

 

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@Mitsuki Bestie, when do you think Stray Global will release their first Korean comeback this year

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Just now, illia said:

The main event of 5th gen aka BABYMONSTER are busy on tour

 

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I like them, I hope they are having a successful tour 

 

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2 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

@Mitsuki Bestie, when do you think Stray Global will release their first Korean comeback this year

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I think they will release a full album in either august or september, after the Europe leg. I think the last concert is July 30 in Rome. 

 

What do you think? 

 

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4 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

I think they will release a full album in either august or september, after the Europe leg. I think the last concert is July 30 in Rome. 

 

What do you think? 

 

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Do you really think they will wait this long, since they have 2 Korean album releases planned for this year? The fact that by then, it will be over a year, since their last official Korean comeback

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Happy Bday to Jeno, I need his solo asap but SM is useless.

 

 

2 hours ago, Witnessed ET said:

I understand not wanting another Suzy situation, but he could easily push multiple TWICE girls at the same time in different avenues....how could he not see how that would have only helped them in the long run?

 

Nayeon/Sana/Tzuyu as the true IT girls with ads and cfs (the flag gate was something that the gp forgot later and the koreans didnt blame Tzuyu for that iirc)

Dahyun with variety shows

Mina/Sana/Momo in Japan in ads and cfs

Jeongyeon with acting and MC gigs (she was very much active and energetic until 2020, there was plenty of time)

Chaeyoung in some idol development reality shows where she could be involved in songwriting and composition and stuff

Jihyo and Jeongyeon in idol shows where they could showcase their vocals and allrounder skills

 

...like the possibilities were endless. I mean yeah nowadays they're finally starting to do individual stuff of their own and even doing brand deals & ambassadorships finally, but imagine how much momentum they've lost over the years where they could truly build their individual profiles to some other level. Not a lot of ggs can achieve the success and popularity that TWICE had during their peak, so jyp only had to utilize that momentum and opportunity to also build the individual profiles of the girls outside of the group unit.

Yes but consider this: One of the reasons why Twice continue as a group and have a strong bond is because of the group unity they had all these years. More individual opportuities also means less time for the group and more chances to get big and not wanting to renew :cm:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

 

 

 

I get what y'all are saying, and I do agree that there are practical reasons why Nayeon and Jihyo are so prominent, they're both strong performers and vocally reliable. But even beyond that, there's still an undeniable imbalance in how screen time, lines, and center positions are distributed. Being the center or lead vocalist doesn't necessarily justify that big of a gap, especially in a group of nine where multiple members have strong appeal.

 

As for the "no hierarchy" point, yes, they all get moments here and there, like Mina getting bridges, or Sana having catchy lines, but those moments don't really compare to the consistent exposure Nayeon and Jihyo get across almost every title track. That's more than just role-based distribution, it feels curated.

And regarding the Miss A comparison, I brought it up because even though Suzy ended up being pushed heavily, Miss A songs were more evenly split in terms of lines and focus early on compared to TWICE. TWICE's dynamic is different, JYPE didn't promote members individually until later, sure, but the favoritism within the songs was there from the beginning. It's not about solos or variety show gigs, I'm talking strictly about how group performances are structured.

 

I don't think being the face or center automatically justifies the extent of the difference. For example, Dahyun and Chaeyoung consistently get the least lines in title tracks, and Jeongyeon, despite having strong vocals, often gets pushed to the sidelines, especially in recent years. Even if Nayeon and Jihyo weren't individually promoted like Suzy, their presence within TWICE is still far more dominant than the rest. So while it may not be a Suzy-level favoritism outside the group, I think there's definitely an internal hierarchy when it comes to exposure. 

 

In short, Nayeon had crazy amount of exposure compared to the rest within TWICE content alone. Not even Suzy had this amount of exposure within Miss A songs. So yes, JYP still has his favorites.

 

 

 

 

Positions in kpop means everything. Being labeled as rapper meant u are hardstuck rapping for 90% of your group career even if u want to sing. Being the face means u are going to get the most screentime and individual opportunites for acting unless the public decided that the true visual is another member. CLC's Yeeun has a beautiful voice and she sings in solo songs now but she never did in CLC songs. There was simply no room for her and thats why u cant compare a 4 members group with a 7-9 members group.

 

 

Activities outside the group or semi group activities have more gravity than your role/presence in the group. Thats why u have T-ARA's main vocalist soyeon who almost always had the most lines in the songs claiming 10 years after that she never felt important or that she represents T-ARA, because outside of the singing it was always Jiyeon-Hyomin-Eunjung. Even when T-ARA had solos it was these 3 and not soyeon who got one .

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Queenyoncee said:

SM was so dumb for declining the offer for 

Architecture 101 (breakout movie for Snoozy) and Train to Busan :rip: but she still won at the end :clap3:

 

@Ubermensch @Gorjesspazze9 @Odette Violet

 

Seohyun looks so good, o was not listening to a word you said. :jonny5:

1 hour ago, Sailor Moon said:

this.

 

some members probably don't even want to sing on the song :suburban:

OMG THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Daisy from momoland actually said that this is true.

 

I always clack when stans bitching for some members to have more lines when i am pretty sure these members dont even want the lines they got. Like sakura :lmao: 

just watched Jennie's set

lisa sister why is Jennie with her stamina still dancing more than you

i wonder who is advising her 

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Coachella was the perfect place for a viral dancing clip 

hopefully she will steal tate's nachos for her next release 

(might need to do an apology tour in China too)

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8 minutes ago, sunny said:

OMG THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Daisy from momoland actually said that this is true.

 

I always clack when stans bitching for some members to have more lines when i am pretty sure these members dont even want the lines they got. Like sakura :lmao: 

Well that's because Sakura can't sing. We're not bitching about Momo not getting lines here

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9 minutes ago, sunny said:

OMG THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Daisy from momoland actually said that this is true.

 

I always clack when stans bitching for some members to have more lines when i am pretty sure these members dont even want the lines they got. Like sakura :lmao: 

Chaeyoung from TWICE literally cried when she found out that she was only going to sing 6 seconds of lines though :suburban:

3 minutes ago, thirdward said:

Coachella was the perfect place for a viral dancing clip 

hopefully she will steal tate's nachos for her next release 

(might need to do an apology tour in China too)

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Imagine Lisa with Sports Car, whew 

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Just now, Witnessed ET said:

Well that's because Sakura can't sing. We're not bitching about Momo not getting lines here

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Go on youtube and under the hot album songs there are comments bitching that sakura has very few lines :rip: I am pretty sure if Sakura had the power she would delete them herself :toofunny3:

 

 

1 hour ago, Pluto6 said:

Do you really think they will wait this long, since they have 2 Korean album releases planned for this year? The fact that by then, it will be over a year, since their last official Korean comeback

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The second album can be released in december or be a repackage idk

I doubt they will have time to promote two albums anyway.

 

They will be touring through almost the whole may, june and july. I prefer If they promote the first comeback of the year than the second or they will just lose hype 

 

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4 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Chaeyoung from TWICE literally cried when she found out that she was only going to sing 6 seconds of lines though :suburban:

Chaeyoung  was lucky she got to Twice in the first place :suburban:

 

Up to this day she should lit a candle to Lena for ditching JYPE and making twice into a 9 GG

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Just now, sunny said:

Go on youtube and under the hot album songs there are comments bitching that sakura has very few lines :rip: I am pretty sure if Sakura had the power she would delete them herself :toofunny3:

 

 

Well those commenters are idiots what Can I say, but there are deserving idols who deserve to sing way more than they are allowed to and who WILL deliver in even 6seconds of lines they are given because they want to sing

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5 hours ago, Zack said:

 

The A20 May clip is very tragic.

LSM is giving "stuck in 2021" teas and copy/paste from aespa. It's so stale atp :rip:

 

Even the background city graphics and switching between real + AI during the dance...it's just recycled ideas

 

 

I think LSM gets too much credit for his "brilliance." He gets one idea and then tries desperately to make it happen, even if it means repeating himself. Remember how bad he wanted a rotation group like Morning Musume and he literally tried to make rotation groups a thing with Super Junior, SNSD, EXO and Red Velvet until he finally got NCT? 
 

Without netizens to whack him down or good directors like MHJ, he's never going to get far. Let's hope Sunny clocks him.

6 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

Imagine Lisa with Sports Car, whew 

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I know she would've eat the revolving door video/choreo too

and if Tate can get hits with that voice 

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