discussion Capitalism dump thread

[brraap]

Get your anger out bby's 

 

I personally hate what this world has become

 

Spoiler

I haven't found a single decent job after graduating, (I paid a sh*t tonne of uni fees for this shitty job market??? ew). I had a few jobs that were unsustainable, worst pay with the worst working conditions so I left. Finally landed a still shitty one where the pay was terrible but I told myself I could work my way up since it was in UX. That took ages and I was severely burnt out from all the responsibilities of being the only designer in a small start-up. They *just started paying me living wage after 6 months so saved up to move out. I was so happy. But ofc the job was still hell, I would cry daily from the stress and I couldn't keep it up a day longer so I quit after 11 months, espec after they refused to hire new staff, give me a raise or bring in a team to build the thing I was working on.  Not to mention they barely gave holidays. So I quit and thought I'd find a new job. I quickly had to find a temp job in retail to keep up with the bills and that was just barely, since it was minny wage and paycheck to paycheck. The working conditions were ABYSMAL. Like actual slavery. In an office with no windows for 9+ hours a day, 1 hr break, staring at a computer screen with terrible management. They fired me for calling in sick a 2nd time. And apparently you can do that to temps since they can get rid of you whenever they want... no wonder they treat us so poorly. My accom that I had struggled to pay the bills for was damaged and the agency wouldn't fix it. Cba to even go into how much of a mess it was. Anyways I decided to give up. So now I'm back at my parents. Will be doing a masters in coding soon (since idk what else to do) so let's see what happens   what i've learnt from the above: i refuse to be treated like sh*t 

The system just seems terribly unsustainable 

 

Edited August 15, 2023 by brraap

[Dear Reader]

We should all be working WAY less hours for the same amount of money we make. I feel like we'll be explored till the end of days. I've been feeling pretty frustrated thinking about this lately.

[May]

I can’t do this much longer  i earn an average salary (more than minimum) and it’s impossible to save up for a house . rents are increasing so fast for crappy quality houses , im gonna be living at my parents house forever  it’s such a depressing life working 5 days a week just to barely even survive

Edited August 15, 2023 by May

[Dear Reader]

3 minutes ago, May said:

I can’t do this much longer  i earn an average salary (more than minimum) and it’s impossible to save up for a house . rents are increasing so fast for crappy quality houses , im gonna be living at my parents house forever  it’s such a depressing life working 5 days a week just to barely even survive

the fact that EVERY SINGLE PERSON my age I know feels exactly the same as us... it's so unbearable and no one seems to care. It makes you feel so hopeless

[pisuke]

4 days a week, 6 hours per day AT MOST, and all for the same amount of money. Billionaires should be arrested, their capital confiscated and invested in environmental issues, housing, free and efficient public transport and basically everything else that is crap nowadays. Wall Street should close down and become a provisional homeless shelter while things get fixed. Energy, Education, Housing, Water and all other resources should be public and not private. Of course, we should have decent politicians for that but everything above is very wishful thinking but tbh, it MUST happen or the world goes down the drain and us with it.

[Rebel Lion]

7 minutes ago, May said:

I can’t do this much longer  i earn an average salary (more than minimum) and it’s impossible to save up for a house . rents are increasing so fast for crappy quality houses , im gonna be living at my parents house forever  it’s such a depressing life working 5 days a week just to barely even survive

There's no point to own a house anymore. It's become more evident now than ever. Private investment firms are buying up all the houses and putting them up for lease. If it leases for the price they want then fine, if it doesn't then they don't lose any money because they'll have equity.

[Domination]

7 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said:

There's no point to own a house anymore. It's become more evident now than ever. Private investment firms are buying up all the houses and putting them up for lease. If it leases for the price they want then fine, if it doesn't then they don't lose any money because they'll have equity.

Huh? There’s no point to own a house or point to save up for a house? Two different things.

[May]

10 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said:

There's no point to own a house anymore. It's become more evident now than ever. Private investment firms are buying up all the houses and putting them up for lease. If it leases for the price they want then fine, if it doesn't then they don't lose any money because they'll have equity.

the depressing part is I work w those types of investors . it’s so depressing watching ppl just buy 15 houses in one swoop knowing they plan on raising the rents by 30% meanwhile i can’t even afford to rent my own house

 

 

[nathanspears]

We are heading towards a major job market crisis. We have generations of people who went to university because "that's what you do" and all these new graduates have flooded the market and economy. They were all told they would have good paying jobs but those good paying jobs aren't there. So, we've ended up with an economy full of medium to high paying jobs that add very little value to businesses. In my opinion, this is one reason the UK economy is stagnant.

 

The obsession over the last few years with subscription based modelling is also going to ruin economies and businesses soon, just wait and see.

[Cain]

We’re all heading for a collective burnout and only the rich will survive

[Headlock]

35 minutes ago, Cain said:

We’re all heading for a collective burnout and only the rich will survive

Nah, they’ll be the first we eat during the uprising 

[Trent W]

The problem is we actually live in an oligarchy rather than capitalism.

 

Capitalism is theory works fine, but it’s been corrupted and turned into and oligarchy in the last decades.

 

We need a whole new system were average people don’t have to worry about health, food or housing.

 

Its fair that some earn more(if they actually add value)

 

But the people at the top are just nepo babies from previous generations that keep corrupting the system.

 

There will probably be a series of revolutions if things don’t change soon for the current generations

[Rebel Lion]

1 hour ago, May said:

the depressing part is I work w those types of investors . it’s so depressing watching ppl just buy 15 houses in one swoop knowing they plan on raising the rents by 30% meanwhile i can’t even afford to rent my own house

 

 

Buy land if you have money saved over.

[robattack332]

Tbh the US is not really capitalist at the moment as capitalism itself requires the separation of government and the corporation. Citizens United allowed for that crossover to take place, skewing what should a free market. 

 

However, even if corrected, the whiny liberals that decided to get degrees in sociology and don't own a mansion will always find someone/something to blame their all shortcomings on 

[Archetype]

3 hours ago, brraap said:

Finally landed a still shitty one where the pay was terrible but I told myself I could work my way up since it was in UX. That took ages and I was severely burnt out from all the responsibilities of being the only designer in a small start-up. They *just started paying me living wage after 6 months

Move to the US and get a job in UX.  The job market here is much larger, the pay is highly competitive, and the working hours are reasonable.  Tech jobs in the UK are **** in every single way unless you can get a job with a US tech company with an office in London.  My British friends literally doubled their salary when coming here within the first year, and NO, you are not paying double to live in the US.

Edited August 16, 2023 by Archetype

[brraap]

3 minutes ago, Archetype said:

Move to the US and get a job in UX.  The job market here is much larger, the pay is highly competitive, and the working hours are reasonable.  Tech jobs in the UK are **** in every single way unless you can get a job with a US tech company with an office in London.  My British friends literally doubled their salary when coming here within the first year, and NO, you are not paying double to live in the US.

People have been saying the dollar is the strongest currency right now. May be time to join Murica  

 

The UK is so shambles after all the brexiting, pandemmy, tory debacles 

[Archetype]

13 minutes ago, brraap said:

People have been saying the dollar is the strongest currency right now. May be time to join Murica  

 

The UK is so shambles after all the brexiting, pandemmy, tory debacles 

It's not just the UK tho.  All of European design jobs are low paying with the exception of legend Switzerland, which still pays designers less than in the US.  The US is really the only country on earth that pays designers a fair salary.

[BrokenMachine]

I can't at mining companies deforesting our land and contaminating our rivers with no consequences just because 'the g1ve empl0y.ment '

[EnigmaticAndroid]

Some sort of class revolt is the only realistic end point if the course of America doesn't change. It feels kinda inevitable atp. 

[Cesar]

Honestly, I'm not looking towards the future at all. I've just been living everyday like it's my last  

[Cesar]

It really used to mind boggle me, how people would still be conservative with the way the environment, class divide growing, rights being taken away etc. But, then I realized American Propganda, White Supremacy and Christianity, just doing exactly what it's supposed to do (stop peoples critical thinking skills) 

[poki]

It's basically early stages of modern monarchy at this point. 

[Robert]

Leaving the UK was the best thing I ever did. Capitalism has corrupted every part of the country especially post-Brexit and so many jobs are only hired through recruitment firms and have zero-hour contracts and low wages with a ridiculous cost of living. Let's not get started on housing, I remember looking for some apartments that were in my budget (only if I buy with my partner ofc) and entire new buildings were buy to let and other affordable places cash only. The whole world feels ****** but UK is one of the worst as far as Western countries go.

 

This system can't go on, people are literally getting priced out of cities and I'm not even sure how some people on low incomes survive yet these mega-rich cities can't function without them. 

[imabadkid]

15 hours ago, nathanspears said:

We are heading towards a major job market crisis. We have generations of people who went to university because "that's what you do" and all these new graduates have flooded the market and economy. They were all told they would have good paying jobs but those good paying jobs aren't there. So, we've ended up with an economy full of medium to high paying jobs that add very little value to businesses. In my opinion, this is one reason the UK economy is stagnant.

 

The obsession over the last few years with subscription based modelling is also going to ruin economies and businesses soon, just wait and see.

yeah I definitely see the whole “subscription based economy” collapsing soon… look at the streamers, not only is not a profitable business model, it’s not really sustainable because subscriptions aren’t enough to keep a business standing… unless you increase subscription prices three or four times a year. 

[nathanspears]

13 minutes ago, imabadkid said:

yeah I definitely see the whole “subscription based economy” collapsing soon… look at the streamers, not only is not a profitable business model, it’s not really sustainable because subscriptions aren’t enough to keep a business standing… unless you increase subscription prices three or four times a year. 

The reason so many businesses decided to go with this model is because it was easy to get customers. Get little bits of their money more regulary and provide what should be a stable income. But what they didn't think of is that yes, it's easy to get new customers to join but it's also very easy for customers to leave. They can just cancel their subscription whenever they want to. With the current cost of living crisis going on and prices going up everywhere, these subscriptions are one of the first things to go.