44 minutes ago, PowerGarlic said:

LIVE SINGERS  The beginning is sending me 

 

 

I love how Hanni's mic is always ON!

Honestly some of the comments I'm reading rn

IVE better enjoy all these accolades cuz NJ are coming

XG is the only GG who’s doing girl crush right beside BP. YG is nasty for not mediaplaying them as BP’s little sisters. I Hope international stans Will give them clout. 
 

hikaru will serve main dancing and rap don’t play with her 

10 minutes ago, Take Me Apart said:

IVE better enjoy all these accolades cuz NJ are coming

 Wonyoung is a winner you guys never learn

 

 

Did forever pass 300M digital points ? if it didn’t it’s not a hit  Not my words That’s what ATRL said. 

 

Wonyoung truly the Korean Virgin Mary, offering herself up for the betterment of the world WE STAN!

3 hours ago, Adama said:

More like Foreigners members does fine as long as they are pretty and fit their beauty standards lol.
 

Also they don’t treat the SEA idols and Japanese idols the same… 

Okay you’re right about that 
 

They  stan SEA idols if they meet their beauty standards. Minnie, Hanni & Nichkhun Lucas are/were all very popular. Nichkhun was an It-boy before his DUI. 
 

Idols like Lisa & Bambam don’t look Korean enough for them to stan 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

The comments are really eating them up omg  

This performance will really be a huge scar for IVE sadly, which is very unfair, cause every group are literally lip syncing while sitting down as well  Liz could've easily sung this live and all of this could've been avoided, but Starship was too stubborn and of course had to give Wonyoung aka their worst singer the gig, since she's "Wonyoung the it-girl" and there's simply just no other option  Well the It-girl just possibly ruined y'all credit 

I wonder if Starship would still dare to give Wonyoung and Leeseo more lines than Liz in the next comeback, cause they NERVE if they do 

 

The way the comments are filled with NMIXX praise as well, and how talented they are compared to IVE and how unfair the popularity gap there is between them an IVE. I hope this will make people appreciate NMIXX more especially Knetz, since they choose to ignore a talented group like them over IVE. Actually Knetz have no right to complain about IVE, since they have always preferred visuals over talent and all of the most popular 4th gen girl groups in Korea right now are literally the least talented ones  

Like I can't believe this is a scandal when this have been the norm for YEARS, poor IVE... 

 

Poor Wonyoung, we are literally witnessing the start of her downfall and it looks like Starship are already over Wonyoung, and have already moved over to Gaeul as the next it girl I fear 

The dramatic 

They just won SOTY They will be fine for now. Twice were unlucky that their bad singing scandal was almost at the same time when their downfall in Korea started 

Edited January 7, 20233 yr by Sorecer

7 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

The comments are really eating them up omg  

This performance will really be a huge scar for IVE sadly, which is very unfair, cause every group are literally lip syncing while sitting down as well  Liz could've easily sung this live and all of this could've been avoided, but Starship was too stubborn and of course had to give Wonyoung aka their worst singer the gig, since she's "Wonyoung the it-girl" and there's simply just no other option  Well the It-girl just possibly ruined y'all credit 

I wonder if Starship would still dare to give Wonyoung and Leeseo more lines than Liz in the next comeback, cause they NERVE if they do 

 

The way the comments are filled with NMIXX praise as well, and how talented they are compared to IVE and how unfair the popularity gap there is between them an IVE. I hope this will make people appreciate NMIXX more especially Knetz, since they choose to ignore a talented group like them over IVE. Actually Knetz have no right to complain about IVE, since they have always preferred visuals over talent and all of the most popular 4th gen girl groups in Korea right now are literally the least talented ones  

Like I can't believe this is a scandal when this have been the norm for YEARS, poor IVE... 

 

Poor Wonyoung, we are literally witnessing the start of her downfall and it looks like Starship are already over Wonyoung, and have already moved over to Gaeul as the next it girl I fear 

That’s not IVE’s fault if NMIXX can’t release a decent song. Glad the untalented group is winning over another failed big3 group. 
 

i think some of y’all have been kpop stan since last year because a successful GG being hated is nothing new. This isn’t half of what BP received in 2018-19 and now they’re the biggest GG. Twice has been called talentless for a decade and they were still getting back to back hits. 

Edited January 7, 20233 yr by Dialamba

2 hours ago, GucciBang said:

What is this dramatics coming from you  for what? As leverage to drag BP in the next smgg vs BP discussion 

 

I'm literally one of the most genuine Blink here!

My bad - I didn’t mean to come off as aggressive. Just wanted to point out that those of us complaining about BP’s quality with their previous release aren’t doing it because we hate them but because we want something great.

2 hours ago, MingYouToo said:

waiT Forever 1 is bigger than anything they released?

More & More - 323,848,360 (2020 year end chart) [#4]
Alcohol-Free - 311,088,407 (7/21/22) [#6]

 

Forever 9 - 265,149,437 (12/22/22) [#5]

 

The Forever 1 estimate is missing 9.2M points and it’s currently charting with over 4.6M points a week still.

29 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

 and making sure that we are only getting live vocals from 2023 and onwards 

And are those live vocals in the room with us?  

Wendy girl...maybe she needs to stop effortlessly scalping the original singers

 

OMG the comments under that IVE video  

 

And to think that Starship paid so much money to uplift their Izone princesses and throw dirt on every other GG that debuted around the same time as them 

 

Maybe they should’ve spent that money on singing lessons for Wonyoung 

 

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9 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

That’s not IVE’s fault if NMIXX can’t release a decent song. Glad the untalented group is winning over another failed big3 group. 
 

i think some of y’all have been kpop stan since last year because a successful GG being hated is nothing new. This isn’t half of what BP received in 2018-19 and now they’re the biggest GG. Twice has been called talentless for a decade and they were still getting back to back hits. 

right  the dramatics a week after...it's really time to move on

 

And all the talent in the world won't help NMIXX if JYP doesn't give them better songs. Nothing unfair about that. 

All starship needs to do is a little damage control (which will probably start once half the group is better) and all will be well again. ... I hope.

Overreactions

 

IVE will be fine. They have 4th smash hit coming in February. I hope it's another almost pop perfection like Love Dive 

 

Hopefully, aespa will also comeback around same time. We need some mess and competition 

I stopped following kpop news for a few days and now IVE is #1 kpop enemy

21 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

The comments are really eating them up omg  

This performance will really be a huge scar for IVE sadly, which is very unfair, cause every group are literally lip syncing while sitting down as well  

Liz could've easily sung this live and all of this could've been avoided, but Starship was too stubborn and of course had to give Wonyoung aka their worst singer the gig, since she's "Wonyoung the it-girl" and there's simply just no other option  Well the It-girl they was so confident in just ruined their credit possibly 

I wonder if Starship would still dare to give Wonyoung and Leeseo more lines than Liz in the next comeback, cause they NERVE if they do 

 

The way the comments are filled with NMIXX praise as well, and how talented they are compared to IVE and how unfair the popularity gap is between them and IVE. I hope this will make people appreciate NMIXX more especially Knetz, since they choose to ignore a talented group like them over IVE. Actually Knetz have no right to complain about IVE, since they have always preferred visuals over talent and majority of the most popular 4th gen girl groups right now in Korea are literally the least talented ones  

Like I can't believe this is a scandal when this have been the norm for YEARS, poor IVE... 

 

Poor Wonyoung, we are literally witnessing the start of her downfall and it looks like Starship are already over Wonyoung, and have already moved over to Gaeul as the next it girl I fear 

1. Gaeul and Lesseo will never be IT girls (short or medium term). Their best bet outside of Wonyoung and Yujin is Liz, but she needs to be skinnier in order for koreans to properly stan, sadly

2. The problem with NMIXX is that they lost their real potential at an IT girl with Jinni. And if JYPig lets them release songs like their previous ones, they will never win.

 

If I were Starship I would just announce a 3 month hiatus for Wonyoung by inventing an illness. That way she can get some GP sympathy

IVE will be ok if their next comeback is a hit

like... Twice and Blackpink went through so much worse and now they're still on top

I think the IVE stans will just have to get used to the fact that the group is going to be plagued by scandals throughout their career. It's just how Starship operates.

 

SISTAR could never shake the constant sajaegi accusations, but at least they had some talent in the group to get by. IVE is too much built on image and reputation (via Wonyoung) so when that starts to crumble, there's not much left.

Does it really matter who gets more lines in IVE?  All of them have catchy and pretty voices anyway, I'm sure the producers just choose who they would prefer to sing each line depending on who fits it best.

 

obsessed with this part

haerin vocal legend

8 minutes ago, DanyelP23 said:

The problem with NMIXX is that they lost their real potential at an IT girl with Jinni. And if JYPig lets them release songs like their previous ones, they will never win.

NMIXX needs an urgent and drastic overhaul.

I feel like they should be moved out of division 4 to a team that is more capable/proven within JYP if they're going to stand any chance.

 

They'll be a year old next month and it's got to be one of the WORST 1st years I've ever seen for a big 3 GG.

 

Edited January 7, 20233 yr by Zack

wonyoung and leeseo have a similar type of voice (wy is better tho) so when the producers give both of them lots of lines in one song it just doesn’t work 

 

also people complain about wy and yujin being the center but honestly it’s the right choice 

Edited January 7, 20233 yr by hallucinate

 

They simply dont. make. classics. like. this. anymore. 

 

Need IVE to make an attempt this summer after their Valentines smasha next month.

1 hour ago, Pluto2022 said:

It's not like they were children when they debuted though? They were all around 18-20 years old when they debuted, which is around the years people stop growing as well. Only I.N was 17, but he's still the exact same height as Lee Know today, so he hasn't really grown since then. 

I.N did grow up a lot since debut lol You can't judge it fairly in that pic since they're wearing insoles to make everyone around the same height but Hyunjin and I.N are the tallest members now

 

That’s why LSM said lip-synch is a genre  like if you’re gonna mime you have to at least put a little sincerity into it not sit there like you’re warming up at karaoke