3 hours ago, WeFoundWill said:

Who‘s talking about self referencing exclusively? are yall this dense?

 

the color palettes, settings, styling, props down to the MV being shot the same frame by frame at some as Rosé‘s video.

 

Some things are a coincidence some stuff is down right copying and I stand by that 

 

 

For GG I was talking about alleys with posters that referenced their past material. They did it with “Paparazzi” like a decade ago.

 

I don’t think anything here is unique that JYP could even be accused of stealing from. It’s not like the NMIXX/Min Heejin plagiarism they have going on  

5 hours ago, Eternium said:

Just a side note, but you can see by how well Eleven, Love Dive and After Like charted on both digitals and album sales that their next era will be an obvious smash. They’re going to hit 2M+ physicals with ease and Wonyoung will be on her way to being the female idol with the biggest overall career (group + solo).  

Idk, I don’t think she can either surpass Yoona’s biannual top 5 highest grossing movies of the year + hit dramas OR Taeyeon monstrous hits & solo touring numbers? 

Atp I'm convinced @WeFoundWill has some sort of mental illness because there is no other explanation!

2 hours ago, hallucinate said:

starship’s management of all IVE members was actually good during eleven era (and ‪LD to an extent) but then something shifted 

Everything went downhill. The styling, the promo, the creative team. They look so cheap 

 

 

Leeseo was pushed since debut, she got viral during eleven and SS expected her pull a WY it backfired. 
 

Even when Liz didn’t have have weight gains (before she dyed her hair black) her lines were tragic tbh. I feel like she was the most loved member after Yujin, and amassed a fanbase really quickly. But I don’t think that was the original plan and with her weight gain. SS had a “reason” to sideline her.  

 

1 hour ago, Witnessed ET said:

It’s simple, Liz gained weight and they sidelined her. Then Leeseo somehow gained more screentime.

 

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

For GG I was talking about alleys with posters that referenced their past material. They did it with “Paparazzi” like a decade ago.

 

I don’t think anything here is unique that JYP could even be accused of stealing from. It’s not like the NMIXX/Min Heejin plagiarism they have going on  

To be fair, crackstink fans thought BlackPink invented the color palette combo of black and pink, so its kinda fruitless to argue with a bunch of degenerates.

2 hours ago, Witnessed ET said:

It’s simple, Liz gained weight and they sidelined her. Then Leeseo somehow gained more screentime.

yeah liz suffered the most but overall the management has been a mess nnn

 

23 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Everything went downhill. The styling, the promo, the creative team. They look so cheap 

 

 

Leeseo was pushed since debut, she got viral during eleven and SS expected her pull a WY it backfired. 
 

Even when Liz didn’t have have weight gains (before she dyed her hair black) her lines were tragic tbh. I feel like she was the most loved member after Yujin, and amassed a fanbase really quickly. But I don’t think that was the original plan and with her weight gain. SS had a “reason” to sideline her.  

 

imo she shined a lot in eleven and her lines were great

i’d still put her in 3rd when it comes to popularity though (among kpop stans at least)

 

starship just needs to give her more lines and that’s it, like i’m not even asking for center time or something

2 hours ago, WeFoundWill said:

The way Aespa Coachella performance KILLED their career  I live.

universal BOMB

 

The whole album leaked via concert kii

 

And it's great, Born Trash cant relate. 

Siyoon had rent to pay 

they're so underrated, top 3-4 stage presence wise among 4th gen girlies

 

What are Everglow doing?? They've lowkey disbanded because there is seriously no sign of new music anymore 

13 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

 

 

starship just needs to give her more lines and that’s it, like i’m not even asking for center time or something

Literally. We’re not asking for center. Or most screentime. Or dance breaks. All she needs is more lines and adlibs because that’s where she shines the best. The vocals.
and the reason i keep complaining about Jeongyeon is the exact same as Liz. Poor sis has only one role in that group, and even that is not utilized properly, so how is she supposed to get a member-shine? 
i know kpop stans usually love to “root for the underdogs” but these two girls’ situation goes way beyond just being “underdogs” because they’re arguably the best vocalists in the respective groups, so it’s different. 
 

2 hours ago, WeFoundWill said:

The way Aespa Coachella performance KILLED their career  I live.

universal BOMB

 

The whole album leaked via concert kii

 

 

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21 minutes ago, rapperjennie said:

What are Everglow doing?? They've lowkey disbanded because there is seriously no sign of new music anymore 

We don’t know but JYPig need to snatch Everglow A&R team so Itzy can smash again 

30 minutes ago, Flomik said:

Siyoon had rent to pay 

they're so underrated, top 3-4 stage presence wise among 4th gen girlies

 

Billlie is kinda my fave nugu except ring my bell kinda sucked.

 

Their two first mini's though, WHEW. Scalped the new Loona!

5 hours ago, Witnessed ET said:

You already know even by looking at her offscreen persona that she’s way more mature than most girlies of this generation. I have a feeling she really knows what she wants out her career and she has the skills and talent so she’ll go far 

It is so refreshing to have an Idol like her in the Kpop industry. She is really talented, funny and relatable. She is like one of us and you know you will be very good friends if you meet her. My ultimate favorite idol ever. Hot girl Yunjin indeed 

6 minutes ago, Adama said:

We don’t know but JYPig need to snatch Everglow A&R team so Itzy can smash again 

as if everglow haven't been tanking with each cb cause of bad song choices

Let see what viral moment will Gaeul have this comeback  The Gaeul cult will make her more famous than Wonyoung. Thats what happens when you are actually a nice person. 

2 minutes ago, fauxtography said:

Their two first mini's though, WHEW. Scalped the new Loona!

I kinda feel like they're closer to f(x) rather than Loona

anyway I hope their next comeback will be a success, their sales keep increasing and compared to other nugu girls they're doing extremely well at least sales wise, basically on their way OUT of nugudom, but we NEED that first win 

14 minutes ago, Adama said:

We don’t know but JYPig need to snatch Everglow A&R team so Itzy can smash again 

Both groups need to be saved. I suggest to smash them together and make a new group Glowiteverzy 

Edited March 16, 20233 yr by Companion

51 minutes ago, rapperjennie said:

What are Everglow doing?? They've lowkey disbanded because there is seriously no sign of new music anymore 

Considering they appeared as a full group just about a month ago (and looked good doing it), they're probably preparing for something soon, I'll guess coinciding with another global tour to meet up with all their youtube fans. 

 

Some think that Everglow being the one Yuehua act not to launch a bubble app is some kind of sign of demise, but really that's exactly the kind of activity Everglow needs to stay away from in order to continue without more delays.

 

30 minutes ago, fauxtography said:

Billlie is kinda my fave nugu except ring my bell kinda sucked.

 

Their two first mini's though, WHEW. Scalped the new Loona!

Ring Ma Bell isn’t my favorite song but the b-sides on that mini are still incredible

 

SAAY her pen never misses 

31 minutes ago, katyberry said:

as if everglow haven't been tanking with each cb cause of bad song choices

First, outdated Pirate>>>>>>> Sneakers, Cheshire . Everglow have the better A&R team 

 

Plus Everglow have good b sides. 

 

 

 

 

 

24 minutes ago, Companion said:

Both groups need to be saved. I suggest to smash them together and make a new group Glowiteverzy 

The fact that even in this lineup Mia will still get the most lines 

KRYSTAL x Ralph Lauren

 

She's so effortless. The last outfit reminds me of a f(x) comeback so much too

 

speaking of nugu, I decided to check their recent album sales and compare who's the closest to leaving the nugudom

source: koreansales (twitter, site, youtube), twitter chart accounts, ktown4u

(relevant nugus ONLY):

 

Billlie: the Billage of perception : chapter two - 91 070 copies

tripleS: ASSEMBLE - 40 221 copies

H1-KEY: Rose Blossom - 35 543 copies

Cherry Bullet: Cherry Dash - 34 759 copies (new release, 1ST WEEK ONLY)

woo!ah!: Pit-a-Pat - 31 889 copies

Rocket Punch: FLASH - 26 574 copies

PURPLE KISS: Cabin Fever - 23 313 copies

CLASS:y: Day&Night - 23 201 copies

TRI.BE: W.A.Y - 19 873 copies

LIGHTSUM: Into The Light - 17 902 copies

SECRET NUMBER: DOOMCHITA - 12 386 copies

PIXY: Chosen Karma - 4 806 copies (new release, 1ST WEEK ONLY)

ICHILLIN': Bridge of Dreams - 202 copies

FIFTY FIFTY: 0 copies (no physical releases yet)

 

CRAXY: ? (couldn't find new info)

NATURE: ? (couldn't find new info)

 

Any surprises?

2 minutes ago, Flomik said:

speaking of nugu, I decided to check their recent album sales and compare who's the closest to leaving the nugudom

source: koreansales (twitter, site, youtube), twitter chart accounts, ktown4u

(relevant nugus ONLY):

 

Billlie: the Billage of perception : chapter two - 91 070 copies

tripleS: ASSEMBLE - 40 221 copies

H1-KEY: Rose Blossom - 35 543 copies

Cherry Bullet: Cherry Dash - 34 759 copies (new release, 1ST WEEK ONLY)

woo!ah!: Pit-a-Pat - 31 889 copies

Rocket Punch: FLASH - 26 574 copies

PURPLE KISS: Cabin Fever - 23 313 copies

CLASS:y: Day&Night - 23 201 copies

TRI.BE: W.A.Y - 19 873 copies

LIGHTSUM: Into The Light - 17 902 copies

SECRET NUMBER: DOOMCHITA - 12 386 copies

PIXY: Chosen Karma - 4 806 copies (new release, 1ST WEEK ONLY)

ICHILLIN': Bridge of Dreams - 202 copies

FIFTY FIFTY: 0 copies (no physical releases yet)

 

CRAXY: ? (couldn't find new info)

NATURE: ? (couldn't find new info)

 

Any surprises?

You forgot the biggest nugu group of the 4th gen 

 

Weeekly: Play game : awake - 83,189 copies sold 

1 hour ago, Witnessed ET said:

Literally. We’re not asking for center. Or most screentime. Or dance breaks. All she needs is more lines and adlibs because that’s where she shines the best. The vocals.
and the reason i keep complaining about Jeongyeon is the exact same as Liz. Poor sis has only one role in that group, and even that is not utilized properly, so how is she supposed to get a member-shine? 
i know kpop stans usually love to “root for the underdogs” but these two girls’ situation goes way beyond just being “underdogs” because they’re arguably the best vocalists in the respective groups, so it’s different. 
 

I Have noticed that you have a very specific and clear type in terms of which idol you’re stanning. 
You seem to always stan the “underrated main vocalist” such as Jeongyeon, Liz, Woojin, D.O etc. like I see so many parallels between Jeongyeon and Liz especially. 
All of these people you stan have also been claimed to be “visual holes” by Knetz (of course I don’t agree though)

Edited March 17, 20233 yr by Pluto2022