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K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

This is part 1 of the K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive discussion.

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2 hours ago, JoanneActII said:

if hybe acquires sm they won't disband groups and rework a groups entire concept :rip: bffr

Yeah people don’t realise just because hybe owns them doesn’t mean they’ll change the team. 
nj and lsfm are under hybe but they aren’t actually the same label 

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9 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

so ******* pissed off that Lalisa isnt getting updates. She has to be a million seller at this point. 

 

It‘s giving longevity. Biggest Gen 3 GG songs of last year. Hopefully both pull 500M points

 

 

 

 

 

Idgi, did they stop printing Lalisa?

15 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

:deadbanana2:I‘m afraid Teddys GG will be miles better

especially if the rumors of Jinni joining Blacklabel are true .... oh baby monsters will be OVER

7 minutes ago, Gaia said:

No. We need them to disband NCT

it's extremely pathetic how some of yall spend all your time hating on nct. :rip:

From my understanding just because hybe buys sm shares doesnt mean they will buy all of SM and will call the shots, kakao also owns shares and it's a competing label, of course they will invest in the company and have some power on decision making and will profit according to their investment.

 

SM won't operate the same because of the men in charge is no longer there so a new direction is expected in how they will market the groups, concepts and maybe more, the producers will mostly be the same since they re under contract, maybe the only group that will be affected the most is aespa and if their concept is reworked it may as well be for the better 

 

 

 

 

thank you NCT Dream for releasing listenable songs

carrying all of NCT units on their backs :heart:

 

19 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

so ******* pissed off that Lalisa isnt getting updates. She has to be a million seller at this point. 

 

It‘s giving longevity. Biggest Gen 3 GG songs of last year. Hopefully both pull 500M points

 

 

 

 

 

:deadbanana:how is Pink Venom bigger than Shut Down? Korea has a weird taste sometimes.

4 minutes ago, Spears_Stan said:

From my understanding just because hybe buys sm shares doesnt mean they will buy all of SM and will call the shots, kakao also owns shares and it's a competing label, of course they will invest in the company and have some power on decision making and will profit according to their investment.

 

SM won't operate the same because of the men in charge is no longer there so a new direction is expected in how they will market the groups, concepts and maybe more, the producers will mostly be the same since they re under contract, maybe the only group that will be affected the most is aespa and if their concept is reworked it may as well be for the better

Yeah I think a lot of people are just being overdramatic about this, when we don't have any real information about what, if anything, is being bought by HYBE.

 

LSM still owns his controlling share of SM at this point and with the lawsuit, it's looking unlikely that he will give it up easily now. Whoever holds those shares will be the one with ultimate control over SM. Kakao failed to purchase them, they have bought a lesser stake in the company, which is being challenged by LSM.

 

SM's new management system should in theory be good news for their bigger acts, but whether they implement the system properly...we'll have to see.

13 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

Idgi, did they stop printing Lalisa?

no, yg is hiding lisa's sales. rosé is still selling 10k every 2 weeks there's no way lisa is not a million seller still

 

5 minutes ago, Hay Amores said:

:deadbanana:how is Pink Venom bigger than Shut Down? Korea has a weird taste sometimes.

it was released a month before

10 minutes ago, JoanneActII said:

it's extremely pathetic how some of yall spend all your time hating on nct. :rip:

Any logical person can see SM's downfall started when they began to invest 90% of their resources into NCT with bare minimal returns. Abysmal Spotify streams, abysmal digital sales, and despite having 100 members, they still aren't even close to being the bg with highest album sales per album. They only sell a lot by spamming releases. 

 

The only people who can't see NCT started SM's ruin is NCT stans :rip: 

6 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

no, yg is hiding lisa's sales. rosé is still selling 10k every 2 weeks there's no way lisa is not a million seller still

 

it was released a month before

How are they hiding sales? These numbers are from Circle

24 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

Yeah people don’t realise just because hybe owns them doesn’t mean they’ll change the team. 
nj and lsfm are under hybe but they aren’t actually the same label 

HYBE won't adquiere SM, SM first needs to get rid of LSM and HYBE needs to buy their market shares SM/LSM owns first 

3 minutes ago, Selenasworld said:

HYBE won't adquiere SM, SM first needs to get rid of LSM and HYBE needs to buy their market shares SM/LSM owns first 

Or they could be doing this to make sure he stays in charge over there. :mandown:

 

:cm:

NCT is truly a mistake yes, not everyone can be AKB48 

their debut was fantastic but something went wrong later

 

 

6 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

How are they hiding sales? These numbers are from Circle

The company/distributor has to report the shipments to Circle, who then verifies it. So it's possible.

 

That's how Hanteo can sometimes be higher than Circle, which I believe did happen to Lisa.

4 minutes ago, Zack said:

The company/distributor has to report the shipments to Circle, who then verifies it. So it's possible.

 

That's how Hanteo can sometimes be higher than Circle, which I believe did happen to Lisa.

thank you :clap3: 

lisa has been stuck at 800k since 2021 while rosé went from 600k in 2021 to now 720k

there's just no way lisa is still not at 900k-1m lets be real here her akgaes are crazy

9 minutes ago, harrythevifan said:

Or they could be doing this to make sure he stays in charge over there. :mandown:

 

:cm:

ofc not

Hybe just want to help SM against korean Hydra, Kakao. :cm:

No malicious intent, best company ever

3 hours ago, Maddox said:

Sounds like ASAP :eek: It better not be disappointing

 

 

 

sounds great :jonnycat:

 

they also teased the choreo a bit

 

55 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

girl…announce the stadiums in the west already

 

 

Still feel bad about what happened to Auckland :grump: Jennie was so excited...

how did this whole situation even start like why is HYBE trying to buy SM’s shares and why is SM even selling them in the first place? :bloo: 

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9 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

thank you :clap3: 

lisa has been stuck at 800k since 2021 while rosé went from 600k in 2021 to now 720k

there's just no way lisa is still not at 900k-1m lets be real here her akgaes are crazy

Yeah I agree. I'm not sure if YG is purposely hiding the sales, maybe they're just incompetent. Though either situation wouldn't surprise me...it's YG.

 

Nearly every album that hits 800k+ on Hanteo manages to reach 1M on Circle lately, so she probably is at 1M in reality.

 

1 minute ago, hallucinate said:

how did this whole situation even start like why is HYBE trying to buy SM’s shares and why is SM even selling them in the first place? :bloo: 

It started in September 2020 probably, when SM (and LSM himself) were suddenly audited by the National Tax Service. SM's shareholders have been unhappy with him for a while.

 

A few months later, LSM put his controlling shares up for sale in 2021, and Kakao, HYBE, CJ ENM and others were all interested.

 

Then all the mess about LSM's shady contracts were exposed which only accelerated SM's plans to kick LSM from the company.

Why is always exo stans who hates nct? Give it up Deelishis. 

 

 

 

 

 

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