9 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

why are ive stans always bringing up their numbers (as if starship wasn’t infamous for their sajaegi ) even when we’re talking about concept and art direction

Going from using advertising revenue as bragging rights to being a snob about someone bringing up chart numbers  Love Dive is art. Sorry 

5 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

Who cares about concept and art direction when they’re put together by trend forecasters and label execs. You really think Aespa and Le Serrafim are in charge of what songs they get, their artistic direction, etc.  

 

All I care about is bops, and Ive consistently delivers. 

you guys are really slow today nnnn who said that??? i’ve been saying on

here that min heejin is one of the greatest minds in kpop atm along with jaden jeong. i know that these 14 years old aren’t making **** about their concept

 

but in the end it’s groups like lesserafim, newjeans and aespa who’ll end up remembered

 

ive might end up like their sunbae if they keep on that track and nobody wants that for them

 

 

Edited April 26, 20233 yr by Windy Day

Just now, katyberry said:

Respectfully 

IVE is doing harmeless bops, and I get when people say this could be a problem if they commit any mistake. But we are in 2023, everyone has a fanbase, and if IVE is just Wony and Yujin, the numbers and profits still there anyway. I can see NJ and LS being much bigger int, and Aespa being much more safe with their loyal fanbase, but IVE has their own too even if its smaller.


Now, how IVE is the one with less identity? Their singles are very cohesive so far, meanwhile LS  Fearless - Antifragile - and now a Nile Rodgers song   The album preview has less cohesion than albuns from 2nd gen acts. 

NJ/AESPA > Gidle/ITZY >>>> IVE >>>>> Lesa

unless yall are talking just about aesthetic 
 

Edited April 26, 20233 yr by dlwlrma

3 minutes ago, Butters said:

Going from using advertising revenue as bragging rights to being a snob about someone bringing up chart numbers  Love Dive is art. Sorry 

i’ll expect it to win korean grammys like next level 

gagging over aespa teasers

visuelle ate the other girls yep including THE ningning I fear

1 minute ago, dlwlrma said:

IVE is doing harmeless bops, and I get when people say this could be a problem if they commit any mistake. But we are in 2023, everyone has a fanbase, and if IVE is just Wony and Yujin, the numbers and profits still there anyway. I can see NJ and LS being much bigger int, and Aespa being much more safe with their loyal fanbase, but IVE has their own too even if its small. 


Now, how IVE is the one with less identity? Their singles are very cohesive so far, meanwhile LS  Fearless - Antifragile - and now a Nile Rodgers song   The album preview has less cohesion than albuns from 2nd gen acts. 

NJ/AESPA > Gidle/ITZY >>>> IVE >>>>> Lesa

unless yall are talking just about aesthetic 
 

agreed with the entire ranking but lesserafim >>>> ive because they take more risks imo

 

taylor swift might be the most successful artist in the us it doesn’t change the fact that her songs are produced by chatgpt prompts

13 minutes ago, Get said:

I don't think Blinks are that good streamers especially on Spotify the fanbase isn't that big. Blackpink just has a lot of casual interest so if a song sticks, it will do really well.

This. If BP fans cared as much as BoTS they could rig the Hot 100 and have PV get #1 there. Sadly, BP fans love streaming farms in SEA internet cafes more i fear!

ahhh still gagging

 

 

5 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

you guys are really slow today nnnn who said that??? i’ve been saying on

here that min heejin is one of the greatest minds in kpop atm along with jaden jeong. i know that these 14 years old aren’t making **** about their concept

 

but in the end it’s groups like lesserafim, newjeans and aespa who’ll end up remembered

 

ive might end up like their sunbae if they keep on that track and nobody wants that for them

 

https://twitter.com/soneslovesoshi/status/1646737171452411904?s=46&t=_2GHuNe26LC7egMKyMSb4w

 

Sistar songs are like at 1-1.2 million and it’s not even summer yet

 

 

1 hour ago, Windy Day said:

i rooted for ive so much at first but seeing the ART other 4th gen girl groups are serving compared to ive’s countrified material made me lose faith in them. they don’t have any clear identity and their songs could have been released by absolutely any group tbh

They dont have a spesific sound i agree but i think they still have some kind of rich, elite and posh branding for the group. And their sound after eleven is kinda on brand with each other they usually serve melodic, european catchy tunes with catchy choruses while experimenting on genres. I still think eleven was their peak musically and I wish them to continue on that theme their looks and sound felt really unique and there was some mysterious elements idk how to describe it.

 

But my interest for them slowly declining since after like.

41 minutes ago, Adama said:

It’s literally the case for her two others band mates? Also industry recognition is useless, look at Normani. 

Did I not say it wasn't the same case for Lisa and Jennie? Didn't think so. Learn to read. You're quoting and making arguments for no reason lmfao and Rose has the commercial power to actually sell her ****, she sold 500k pure in Korea for like 2 tracks that weren't even in Korean. She can use her commercial power to actually put those connections to good use, no one uses Normani.

Edited April 26, 20233 yr by MingYouToo

Just now, Companion said:

They dont have a spesific sound i agree but i think they still have some kind of rich, elite and posh branding for the group. And their sound after eleven is kinda on brand with each other they usually serve melodic, european catchy tunes with catchy choruses while experimenting on genres. I still think eleven was their peak musically and I wish them to continue on that theme their looks and sound felt really unique and there was some mysterious elements idk how to describe it.

 

But my interest for them slowly declining since after like.

exactly same

 

eleven >>>>>>>>>

and love dive too

 

after like was saved by the sample and i looove i am but absolutely ANY girl group could have had released that song 

Blinks are hostile to literally everybody including each other it'll never stop being weird. 

12 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

Who cares about concept and art direction when they’re put together by trend forecasters and label execs. You really think Aespa and Le Serrafim are in charge of what songs they get, their artistic direction, etc.  

 

All I care about is bops, and Ive consistently delivers. 

exactly 
for me as a fan, if the music and visuals click for me, I listen and engage. And IVE and Lesserafim (and aespa occasionally) have done that for me. It’s kpop, it’s mostly manufactured, so demeaning a group for their “art direction” is pointless lol. 

I would be mad too if other group (ive) stomp on my fave (aespa)  

 

and like yea i like ive unlike what that diawhatever member is making it look like since for that kind of people you CANNOT say anything negative about an idol group you like because they treat these random korean teens like their gods 

2 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

exactly 
for me as a fan, if the music and visuals click for me, I listen and engage. And IVE and Lesserafim (and aespa occasionally) have done that for me. It’s kpop, it’s mostly manufactured, so demeaning a group for their “art direction” is pointless lol. 

didn’t you have me blocked?

 

Just now, Windy Day said:

didn’t you have me blocked?

 

Who are you again?

22 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

 

Aespa went from 400k sales to one million in the same period. So yeah the timing is important 

isn’t Savage at over 700k sales? 

 

of course the timing is important, but how do you expect a half year old group (NewJeans in January), who isn’t even established or doesn’t have previously well known member to pull 1,5m albums?  aespa released Girls over 1,5 year after their debut, I’m almost sure NewJeans will pull those numbers with their next release, not even one year in  

Edited April 26, 20233 yr by Hazy

42 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

IVE >> NJ

 

bigger and better bops 

Correct, and aespa is bigger and better than both. 

2 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

exactly same

 

eleven >>>>>>>>>

and love dive too

 

after like was saved by the sample and i looove i am but absolutely ANY girl group could have had released that song 

Maybe if i didnt listen to Hush Hush by PCD a billion times when i was a kid I could really enjoy After Like  I used all my limit for that sample in Hush Hush I can't tolerate it and I don't want to hear it anymore 

 

Oh they're taking it

22 minutes ago, BellKat said:

The numbers drag themselves 

I mean, SVT got rightfully dragged but then they had a better debut than Lisa.

It's a very funny sight to see 

bestie Shut Down and Pink Venom debuted at #1 on Spotify and stayed there for days please stop being a clown