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K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

This is part 1 of the K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive discussion.

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Taeyang still holds the #1 spot for 2023's most viewed MV in 24 hours

Jisoo is coming to snatch it, I fear

 

 

 

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    some of the new members not giving new at all 

10 minutes ago, Fadedlights said:

Hi y'all, recent joiner here ready to fight with everyone over kpop lol :kiss:


Mainly a boy group stan (txt must be protected) but listen to all different groups. Even seeing twice in concert this year lol

 

Just wanted to say that my biggest take away from lurking was that y'all have awful takes on album sales 💀 Album sales ain't fake but they're inflated af because groups have so many versions and now there's so many store exclusive preorder/fansign photocards available. Nmixx had like 70 from their last album... (Just using them as an example but it's common for groups to have literal dozens nowadays). That's why everyone is selling so much, pc collectors are serious business lol. That's why I'm fully expecting groups to start outselling BTS because they don't do the same tactics, but ppl will start calling them flops when that clearly isn't the case :deadbanana:

BTS has benefitted tons from bulk sales. Even Western artists like Taylor are embracing the manufacture landfill waste to boost 1st week sales strategy now. This is just the way things are for now and comparing one group's fake sales to another is completely fair. Welcome to the gay circus :bunny:

3 hours ago, Adama said:

Why would I be scared I’m a Blink and an exol aka the 2 biggest Kpop groups in China with BB :bibliahh:??

That would be another win for me 

 

Yes they'd be scared as the biggest group in China for this gen I-DLE and its not even close. And I-DLE is still far behind BP even tho this year for the moment they have the biggest albums selling china (digitally) despite having no comeback.

25 minutes ago, Xalric said:

Fromis is very problematic group. They come from a rigged show plus has a member involved in a bullying rumour.

 

So they had back to back to push back their comeback because of all those scandals happening one after the other in Korea, I mean Pledis might be a menace but make them comeback during the MNET rigging controversy verdict while fromis is directly involved or in the heights of that show about bullying is the most watched and talked about is literally a career suicide for them.

 

Them not coming back is more to preserve them than to harm them.

Their last comeback is their all time success. They got like 5 music show wins in a week, people are welcoming them more than ever. Maybe Hybe only got 2 spots for girl groups and New Jeans and LSFM being way more successful than fromis made them reconsider whether to spend their budget on fromis or not. It's only a matter of time now... i believe we'll get news in April, they supposed to have a concert or something in USA but haven't said anything about fromis_9 cancelling it or not. They need to make a statement before that concert.

11 minutes ago, supertiffany said:

Blackpink is the only artist to have a two consecutive soldout shows in the WORLDS LARGEST INDOOR ARENA

 

:clap3:

LEGENDARY TINGZ! :crown:

25 minutes ago, Fadedlights said:

Hi y'all, recent joiner here ready to fight with everyone over kpop lol :kiss: Mainly a boy group stan (txt must be protected)

The more bg enthusiasts, the merrier, welcome :heart:

Heart Love GIF

18 minutes ago, Xalric said:

 

Yes they'd be scared as the biggest group in China for this gen I-DLE and its not even close. And I-DLE is still far behind BP even tho this year for the moment they have the biggest albums selling china (digitally) despite having no comeback.

In term of digital sales which albums performed better in China?  Girls or I never die? 
 

29 minutes ago, supertiffany said:

Blackpink is the only artist to have a two consecutive soldout shows in the WORLDS LARGEST INDOOR ARENA

 

:clap3:

Not to mention that they’re the FIRST GG to performs in one of the biggest stadium in Europe :jonnycat:

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JinSoul would've been an it-girl if she debuted under the Big 4... A literall doll :jonny5: She kinda has the same vibe as Karina and Isa

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10 minutes ago, Adama said:

In term of digital sales which albums performed better in China?  Girls or I never die? 
 

Not to mention that they’re the FIRST GG to performs in one of the biggest stadium in Europe :jonnycat:

Gidle obviously. It has sold like 500k albums. Gidle is behind Blackpink 

 

First GG to perform in the stade of France not in Europe 
 

12 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

JinSoul would've been an it-girl if she debuted under the Big 4... A literall doll :jonny5:

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She can rap, sing! 

5 hours ago, Butters said:

Whenever you guys compare song popularity you always forget to use TikTok:!ohno:

 

OMG: 530K official audio uses

Ditto: 435K

After Like: 265K

Antifragile: 235K

Girls: 66K

Illusion: 42K

Cheshire: 60K

 

Bonus

Cupid: 550K (inc sped up version)

Big Wave, Big Wave: 160K

Sour Grapes: 100K (inc sped up version)

 

 

Pop! : 1.7m

The virality that that has.


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29 minutes ago, Britney Jean said:

Their last comeback is their all time success. They got like 5 music show wins in a week, people are welcoming them more than ever. Maybe Hybe only got 2 spots for girl groups and New Jeans and LSFM being way more successful than fromis made them reconsider whether to spend their budget on fromis or not. It's only a matter of time now... i believe we'll get news in April, they supposed to have a concert or something in USA but haven't said anything about fromis_9 cancelling it or not. They need to make a statement before that concert.

They had MNET verdict after their comeback plus The Glory being released right after, their comeback was scheduled on March 2023 right around the release of The Glory Season 2.

These days even after their biggest success being their last release, every time fromis is mentioned it's always either Chaeyoung bullying rumour or they get treated in a crap way, which is why they stopped interacting with their fans at one point.

15 minutes ago, Adama said:

In term of sales which albums performed better in China?  Girls or I never die? 

Based on album digital market (G)I-DLE and its not even a debate, 

 

Now physical it's a different story since Karina Bar is buying a lots of albums.

 

The only reason why I-DLE won best selling album last year because their album was out before BP's.

9 hours ago, Adama said:

You just don’t get a TTH placement with just a budget. Attention was literally the third Kpop songs in history to get added on TTH.Even Twice still haven't got one of their songs in this playlist (Yes even their English releases :deadbanana4:)

clearly that's JYPE's fault if they can't do playlisting to their groups, they have tons of money and connection yet they can't do **** for their groups 

New Jeans just doesn’t give off Nations Girl Group or top group vibes tbh. I can see them falling harder than TWICE once the Hybe payola wears off. 

5 minutes ago, Cheers said:

New Jeans just doesn’t give off Nations Girl Group or top group vibes tbh. I can see them falling harder than TWICE once the Hybe payola wears off. 

Who gives you nation gg vibes then? :cm:

2 minutes ago, BigBangStan said:

Who gives you nation gg vibes then? :cm:

None of these groups. IVE and aespa will be fads. The new supreme has yet to debut I fear.

49 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

 

 

First GG to perform in the stade of France not in Europe 
 

That’s exactly what I said, I just didn’t named  the SDF :fan: ? 

 

41 minutes ago, Xalric said:

 

Based on album digital market (G)I-DLE and its not even a debate, 

 

Now physical it's a different story since Karina Bar is buying a lots of albums.

 

The only reason why I-DLE won best selling album last year because their album was out before BP's.

Well slay !!! then they won’t be scared either if Spotify is allowed in China :cm:

1 hour ago, Pluto2022 said:

Hey and welcome :heart:

I'm a fellow MOA as well and Yeonjun aka the 4th gen it boy must be protected :heart:

Thank you :heart: Soobin is my bias but Yeonjun is such a biased wrecker haha 

 

1 hour ago, Century said:

BTS has benefitted tons from bulk sales. Even Western artists like Taylor are embracing the manufacture landfill waste to boost 1st week sales strategy now. This is just the way things are for now and comparing one group's fake sales to another is completely fair. Welcome to the gay circus :bunny:

Yes BTS has had bulk buying just any any group (they used to do fansigns and had multiple album versions) but with covid, 4th Gen has SEVERE bulk buying to another level. During BTS's last normal album eras (Boy With Luv and ON), they still only did 4 album versions and didn't have that store exclusive pc **** that 4th Gen groups. We can't compare album sales when groups literally have so many more album versions (member versions) and at least 20 store pob pcs. If BTS played by the 4th Gen rules, they would probably sell 10m+ from all the bulk buying lmao. But they don't bc they're on the scale where they would literally get hate if they tried attempting what is common album selling practice now... 🙄

 

1 hour ago, kendoll2001 said:

The more bg enthusiasts, the merrier, welcome :heart:

Heart Love GIF

Thank you :heart:

2 hours ago, Xalric said:

Fromis is very problematic group.

Their only problem is they keep getting older. 

 

And maybe the Hongdae private clubs, but that's more just a symptom of the problem.

 

:cm:

2 minutes ago, Adama said:

These Ahjummas are crazy :deadbanana4:

 

 

Lim Youngwoong skews more "unnie" than "ahjumma" but they are crazy nonetheless.

 

:cm:

6 minutes ago, Adama said:

These Ahjummas are crazy :deadbanana4:

 

 

How has this been going on for so long :rip:

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