1 hour ago, Sharapov said:

so they're classics to 13 year old kids then i guess, cause no grown person uses tiktok

NFR! was the most acclaimed album of 2019, and had everyone from Madonna to Bruce Springsteen stanning.

1 hour ago, Sharapov said:

so they're classics to 13 year old kids then i guess, cause no grown person uses tiktok

 oh come on, you sound like a boomer. I’m 22 and use TikTok and don’t act like I’m the only one. Regardless, if people consider a song a classic, it is to them. There’s no defined metric to deem something a classic. Lana is a classic artist! 

Love Ariana, but NFR is a much better album. 

4 hours ago, Moonlight Nation said:

"My Everything" (playlist-core album, but super memorable and fun era), "Dangerous Woman", and "sweetener" beg to differ. "Yours Truly" is far from a quick little album either. 

 

There is a valid criticism of her abandoning her recent projects post-release, which definitely harmed their longevity. And the fact "thank u, next" and "positions" suffered from pretty lacklustre music videos beyond their leads and a baffling lack of performances, but I'm against this rewriting of history.

 

It's like you only heard "34+35" from her 6-album discography.... Can't expect much from someone who deems singing about sex as something lesser, as if several pop girls throughout history haven't had their most iconic eras dedicated to the subject ("Erotica", "janet.", "BEYONCE").

"positions" ' relative underperformance really made folks create this ugly misogynistic caricature of Ariana's music, when even the album itself isn't all about sex (but intimacy and learning to build trust and fall in love again following a traumatic loss) and is much more R&B in sound compared to its trap-leaning predecessor.

 

because 90% of Ariana’s catalog has aged like milk

People pretending Sweetener isn't Ariana's worst-aging album  

 

It was dated on release. The 2002 Kelis rip-off

5 hours ago, Moonlight Nation said:

"My Everything" (playlist-core album, but super memorable and fun era), "Dangerous Woman", and "sweetener" beg to differ. "Yours Truly" is far from a quick little album either. 

 

There is a valid criticism of her abandoning her recent projects post-release, which definitely harmed their longevity. And the fact "thank u, next" and "positions" suffered from pretty lacklustre music videos beyond their leads and a baffling lack of performances, but I'm against this rewriting of history.

 

It's like you only heard "34+35" from her 6-album discography.... Can't expect much from someone who deems singing about sex as something lesser, as if several pop girls throughout history haven't had their most iconic eras dedicated to the subject ("Erotica", "janet.", "BEYONCE").

"positions" ' relative underperformance really made folks create this ugly misogynistic caricature of Ariana's music, when even the album itself isn't all about sex (but intimacy and learning to build trust and fall in love again following a traumatic loss) and is much more R&B in sound compared to its trap-leaning predecessor.

nailed it. misogynist losers on this site constantly looking down on "songs about sex" thinking they're making points.

 

OT - NFR is a better album and is more classic/timeless sounding even though I really love TUN. Lana's also having a major discography boost while the other girl is promoting concealers. 

Edited September 3, 20224 yr by State of Grace.

NFR! is more timeless and easy listening. and yeah ill admit TUN is very much a product of 2019, it doesn't get better as time went on, it got very stale and old. 

Only the best pop album of all time

Well tun skipped TikTok and NFR not when arianators were busy promoting Positions tun was already forgotten.

I mean if tun gets viral on TT I see it increasing too

This Lana resurgence has been crazy to watch. 

Thankfully the awful pop-trap era is over and it has already aged + sounds terribly outdated  

15 hours ago, Ricky Wilson said:

Both album aged like milk

Lies! NFR is top 5 best albums of the 2010s and Lana's best release. TUN is pretty forgettable.

1/9 

 

Thank U, Next - 6,296,607,110 (+2,077,369) 

Norman ******* Rockwell! - 1,656,344,861 (+2,067,260) 

 

 

 

Edited September 3, 20224 yr by Jjang

18 hours ago, Zaynsus said:

Yes ! Only 5 billion streams separate them  

 

18 hours ago, moonlitdick said:

Super close! 

 

Classic album outstreamed Front-loaded mess album 

1 hour ago, Jjang said:

1/9 

 

Thank U, Next - 6,296,607,110 (+2,077,369) 

Norman ******* Rockwell! - 1,656,344,861 (+2,067,260) 

 

 

 

Oop. I know the OAHs who ran in here are embarrassed 

We knew this was going to happen at one point. TUN is very of it's time, it rode a wave of trap that was dominating at the time. NFR is more timeless

On 9/2/2022 at 9:34 AM, moonlitdick said:

Nice! Is it close to outstreaming overall then? 

 

On 9/2/2022 at 9:50 AM, Zaynsus said:

Yes ! Only 5 billion streams separate them  

Expect another question for the culture post to come to help close that 5B stream gap

How can an album be a classic if the GP doesn’t even know it exists? 
 

OT: it’s not out streaming it, but good stats for Lana, she kinda needed to win something after the COMPLETE FLOPS her two most recent albums were 

NFR! is one of the best albums ever recorded tbh it’s not surprising is only getting bigger with time.

 

On 9/2/2022 at 4:17 PM, Ricky Wilson said:

Both album aged like milk

Not when you could find NFR! under the definition of "timeless" on a dictionary, try again next time!

On 9/2/2022 at 5:00 PM, Ricky Wilson said:

She ain't capable, she will continue on singing about sex over 2 minute long cheap trap beats becase she chase trends 

as if norman has some profund lyrics chile

8 hours ago, LosingHimWasBlue said:

Classic album outstreamed Front-loaded mess album 

3 classic albums of 2019. 

On 9/2/2022 at 4:17 PM, Ricky Wilson said:

Both album aged like milk

NFR! aged like fine wine. Change your dealer.