1 hour ago, Givemeyourcoat said:

Miss me with that bullshit, nobody wanted to see her perform just like nobody wanted to buy that album. Dua Lipa planned a tour before Covid then postponed it because it was selling. Camila cancelled cause it was a ******* flop ! Google is free. You are just proving how delulu and deseperate you are. Don't come at nation, 
 

When are you gonna say she won a grammy? I already told you to stop caring about Normani, Camila is a ******* flop too. 
 

Again Camila NEVER surpassed 5H, you are crazy! She never did better than what the group did. Fifth Harmony had tours every album release, a handfull of awards, hits and drama. Camila had the same minus the ratio of tours. Again wasn't she supposed to be better than 5h ? Bigger ? How come you can't do better ? How come your name is still soooooo attached to the group (every album release she STILL talk about the group she left) ? 
 

Laughing at you talking about flop singles and label panicking. Epic literally puted señorita in the album last minute because liar and shameless were flops. They even released a bunch of singles to see which one would stick. None of them did. She even dropped the price of the album to make people buy it. 
 

Who do you think you're fooling ? I fully blâme Normani for giving people like you the audacity to speak. 

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Camila Cabello has sold more than Fifth Harmony overall, both in terms of album sales and overall units, including singles.

How does she still have so many people excited for her (not in real life of course, but in this page) when she gives nothing? People aren't tired of waiting for literally nothing?

was cleaning and tantrums started playing... and the relief and joy i felt while that song was playing.... i really hate her label didnt invest in dopamine cs with the right promotion, interviews, music videos, & viral moments... that album would be so much more successful. still have faith in her; but part of me wants her to still focus on dopamine.. especially since it has the best of both worlds (pop and urban radio hits).

1 hour ago, arsonist said:

How does she still have so many people excited for her (not in real life of course, but in this page) when she gives nothing? People aren't tired of waiting for literally nothing?

That's the problem she doesn't have real support she just has internet fans that are relentless. But it's not on a scale that can actually help her with sales, streaming etc. And that was always my worry …her fans create this narrative that she is this and that but when her music and stuff don't leave up to the hype it just hurts her.  And I think the label, her, and  her team bought into it at times. I think the best thing for her is to get 4h going. Normani does better in a group ..her personality comes out more ..she's way more comfortable..she doesn't have to lead but get moments to show her strength in performance parts etc 

8 hours ago, The Prophecy said:

 

Let's be real. If you're still holding onto years-old drama just because Normani hasn't done anything with her career, it's downright pathetic. This tired 'Camila vs. Normani' nonsense needs to end, neither fanbase is happy with how their fave's career has turned out, yet you're still arguing over who's 'more successful.' At least Camila, flop after flop, keeps putting out music, and say what you will, but that's hustle. Meanwhile, Normani hasn't even delivered a full era, and at this point, fans blaming 'label issues' or crying 'conspiracy' is just embarrassing. Yes there are behind-the-scenes issues, but it's not just about management. Normani's crippling anxiety and perfectionism are clearly holding her back. She's so obsessed with everything being flawless that she'll never actually release anything. That's why she's gone radio silent because she'll never be satisfied. At some point, she either needs to push through or accept that not everything has to be perfect.

 

I might have my problems with Camila but months ago i  said here she flops and isn't the girl that her fans think she is but at least she works. Also my comment was more a 5h Vs camila. 

45 minutes ago, Givemeyourcoat said:

I might have my problems with Camila but months ago i  said here she flops and isn't the girl that her fans think she is but at least she works. Also my comment was more a 5h Vs camila. 

 

6 hours ago, Givemeyourcoat said:

I might have my problems with Camila but months ago i  said here she flops and isn't the girl that her fans think she is but at least she works. Also my comment was more a 5h Vs camila. 

Why are you entertaining them?

On 7/8/2025 at 2:42 PM, 2ne1k said:

Hoping we get some industry tea - specific to Normani's experience - that we haven't heard before with this appearance

 

 

 

 

I hope so. This place needs some news.

 

 

Also the whole Camila vs. Normani thing wouldn't be happening if a certain user who doesn't like Normani wouldn't constantly post in here. @Mstreep, it's been 9 years since camila left fifth harmony.... Please. 

23 minutes ago, remming said:

 

 

I hope so. This place needs some news.

 

 

Also the whole Camila vs. Normani thing wouldn't be happening if a certain user who doesn't like Normani wouldn't constantly post in here. @Mstreep, it's been 9 years since camila left fifth harmony.... Please. 

No the real thing is this constant need to bring up Camila when discussing Normani. Camila doesn't make the same music as her …she has her own lane. She done her solo thing for years now… flopping now or not she has surpassed 5h. So there is no reason to bring her up when discussing Normani. Normani is trying to build a solo career that should be the focus of these topics 

2 hours ago, Mstreep said:

No the real thing is this constant need to bring up Camila when discussing Normani. Camila doesn't make the same music as her …she has her own lane. She done her solo thing for years now… flopping now or not she has surpassed 5h. So there is no reason to bring her up when discussing Normani. Normani is trying to build a solo career that should be the focus of these topics 

When you post in a thread of someone you don't like to antagonize fans... people will antagonize back. Again it's been 9 years....Why is this still happening? 

3 hours ago, remming said:

When you post in a thread of someone you don't like to antagonize fans... people will antagonize back. Again it's been 9 years....Why is this still happening? 

This is a board where you discuss an artist …you don't know what I feel about normani

On 7/9/2025 at 7:17 AM, Mstreep said:

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Camila Cabello has sold more than Fifth Harmony overall, both in terms of album sales and overall units, including singles.

Miss me with that bullshit again. Fifth Harmony last project sold more first week than Camila last two albums. I also have to remind you that Fifth Harmony units as a whole haven't been updated since last decade.
 

Now lets consider her album and singles sells and let's see if this convert into tickets sell, which is the real support.  You then realize she has a poor touring power. She will never beat the payola allégations, everything is so fishy with her… Fifth Harmony had a good touring power.
 

So she was selling more than 5h the first two era (and it wasn't even that much to begin with) and she now selling less than 5h last project. She also has a way less touring power than 5h. She is also a flop and since her second album, because adding señorita when she spent months saying the song was not a part of it just to change last minute because none of the singles took off, was a deseperate move. 
 

With all the reasons you will say she is doing better than what 5h did ? You are delulu as helllll then 

 

 

21 hours ago, Mstreep said:

No the real thing is this constant need to bring up Camila when discussing Normani. Camila doesn't make the same music as her …she has her own lane. She done her solo thing for years now… flopping now or not she has surpassed 5h. So there is no reason to bring her up when discussing Normani. Normani is trying to build a solo career that should be the focus of these topics 

You focus on your own fave, her tour has 17 concerts, half are festivals dates. 

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On 7/9/2025 at 10:36 AM, Mstreep said:

That's the problem she doesn't have real support she just has internet fans that are relentless. But it's not on a scale that can actually help her with sales, streaming etc. And that was always my worry …her fans create this narrative that she is this and that but when her music and stuff don't leave up to the hype it just hurts her.  And I think the label, her, and  her team bought into it at times. I think the best thing for her is to get 4h going. Normani does better in a group ..her personality comes out more ..she's way more comfortable..she doesn't have to lead but get moments to show her strength in performance parts etc 

Talking about internet support vs the real one when your fave has 7yo of solo career and only has one theater tour on her belt. She cancelled the arena one because she couldn't sell and didn't even bother to plan a 3rd one. Her current tour is pathetic. I won't even be surprised if Normani ever starts touring, she is selling the same venues as Camila… 

On 7/9/2025 at 9:17 PM, 2ne1k said:

Why are you entertaining them?

Who? The delulu one ? He needs to Wake up ! He act like Camila is relevant when he and the members of their fanbase cannot even buy significant amount of tickets to see C. And he comes her, to give nation some advices. Pleaaase, pack your bags. 

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18 hours ago, Mstreep said:

No the real thing is this constant need to bring up Camila when discussing Normani. Camila doesn't make the same music as her …she has her own lane. She done her solo thing for years now… flopping now or not she has surpassed 5h. So there is no reason to bring her up when discussing Normani. Normani is trying to build a solo career that should be the focus of these topics 

What thing she has done? Being nominated for grammys just to not win ? Kissing Shawn Mendes to be relevant ? Cancelling a whole flop arena tour ? 

19 hours ago, remming said:

When you post in a thread of someone you don't like to antagonize fans... people will antagonize back. Again it's been 9 years....Why is this still happening? 

That guy is just proving his fanbase and Camila still needs the group. If his girl was a main pop girly he would be fighting with Dua Lipa stans or Sabrina's. Bunch of loosers, him and his fav. Mind you Dua Lipa had a flop era yet had a big arena tour that sold well. Camila had just one era that was sucessfull but was doing theaters. She tried Arenas but the universe said no (and exposed her racist blog weeks later). 

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5 hours ago, Givemeyourcoat said:

Miss me with that bullshit again. Fifth Harmony last project sold more first week than Camila last two albums. I also have to remind you that Fifth Harmony units as a whole haven't been updated since last decade.
 

Now lets consider her album and singles sells and let's see if this convert into tickets sell, which is the real support.  You then realize she has a poor touring power. She will never beat the payola allégations, everything is so fishy with her… Fifth Harmony had a good touring power.
 

So she was selling more than 5h the first two era (and it wasn't even that much to begin with) and she now selling less than 5h last project. She also has a way less touring power than 5h. She is also a flop and since her second album, because adding señorita when she spent months saying the song was not a part of it just to change last minute because none of the singles took off, was a deseperate move. 
 

With all the reasons you will say she is doing better than what 5h did ? You are delulu as helllll then 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Givemeyourcoat said:

You focus on your own fave, her tour has 17 concerts, half are festivals dates. 

 

5 hours ago, Givemeyourcoat said:

Talking about internet support vs the real one when your fave has 7yo of solo career and only has one theater tour on her belt. She cancelled the arena one because she couldn't sell and didn't even bother to plan a 3rd one. Her current tour is pathetic. I won't even be surprised if Normani ever starts touring, she is selling the same venues as Camila… 

 

5 hours ago, Givemeyourcoat said:

Who? The delulu one ? He needs to Wake up ! He act like Camila is relevant when he and the members of their fanbase cannot even buy significant amount of tickets to see C. And he comes her, to give nation some advices. Pleaaase, pack your bags. 

 

5 hours ago, Givemeyourcoat said:

What thing she has done? Being nominated for grammys just to not win ? Kissing Shawn Mendes to be relevant ? Cancelling a whole flop arena tour ? 

 

5 hours ago, Givemeyourcoat said:

That guy is just proving his fanbase and Camila still needs the group. If his girl was a main pop girly he would be fighting with Dua Lipa stans or Sabrina's. Bunch of loosers, him and his fav. Mind you Dua Lipa had a flop era yet had a big arena tour that sold well. Camila had just one era that was sucessfull but was doing theaters. She tried Arenas but the universe said no (and exposed her racist blog weeks later). 

Did you even buy Normani's album this many times? 

6 hours ago, TheFireLexus said:

 

 

 

 

 

Did you even buy Normani's album this many times? 

Well we never got a physical release so this comment doesn't really hit like it's supposed to. 

 

However, Familia had a physical , Target edition, and Vinyl and still couldn't touch gold so — 

On 7/9/2025 at 2:40 AM, Garbaj said:

was cleaning and tantrums started playing... and the relief and joy i felt while that song was playing.... i really hate her label didnt invest in dopamine cs with the right promotion, interviews, music videos, & viral moments... that album would be so much more successful. still have faith in her; but part of me wants her to still focus on dopamine.. especially since it has the best of both worlds (pop and urban radio hits).

My issue she wastes so much money for no reason. You can tell she was an only child (from her mom's side). I think she's used to being coddled and her mom (love Mama Drea) has somewhat enabled her to thinking she is more popular than she is. 

 

I personally would maybe release Tantrums as the last single of album and shoot a MV with a 80's inspired crime drama esque MV with a storyline similar to Rihanna's Unfaithful. 

 

I truly think she has an ear for good music and to me a Tantrums MV and it being sent to Adult Contenporary and Pop would definitely catapult her back into the public's good graces. Just release in September right as the Fall is starting. It's literally fool-proof. 

11 hours ago, TheFireLexus said:

 

 

 

 

 

Did you even buy Normani's album this many times? 

The way you sound ridiculous, yes i brought it dummy. Did you buy tickets to see Camila ? 

6 hours ago, justifymythreads said:

Well we never got a physical release so this comment doesn't really hit like it's supposed to. 

 

However, Familia had a physical , Target edition, and Vinyl and still couldn't touch gold so — 

Don't Forget about the discount she did for her second album. She been terrible since last decade 

6 hours ago, justifymythreads said:

My issue she wastes so much money for no reason. You can tell she was an only child (from her mom's side). I think she's used to being coddled and her mom (love Mama Drea) has somewhat enabled her to thinking she is more popular than she is. 

 

I personally would maybe release Tantrums as the last single of album and shoot a MV with a 80's inspired crime drama esque MV with a storyline similar to Rihanna's Unfaithful. 

 

I truly think she has an ear for good music and to me a Tantrums MV and it being sent to Adult Contenporary and Pop would definitely catapult her back into the public's good graces. Just release in September right as the Fall is starting. It's literally fool-proof. 

The 80´s crime drama MV is a brilliant idea

16 hours ago, TheFireLexus said:

 

 

 

 

 

Did you even buy Normani's album this many times? 

Exactly they don't support normani..just a lot of talk and deflection. They always bring Camila into these discussions for no reason… that girl is on tour and hitting up festivals while recording her 5th album. Trying to compare is dumb they are in complete different phases in their careers. Camila can stop tomorrow and would have accomplished more than a group she left by  miles.
 

Now Normani said she is releasing visuals…the dopamine era isn't over …and a new album is coming soon. We are in July half the year went by. And that's been part of the problem she just says stuff and just lies to her fans. 

5 hours ago, Givemeyourcoat said:

Did you buy tickets to see Camila ? 

Now why would you ask this when you know I'll just point out that she's on tour while Normani isn't? Lmfao