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Lady Gaga

This is part 1 of the Lady Gaga discussion.

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21 minutes ago, Pierrot said:

I thought the weakest performance was shockingly Alice...there's something missing from the live arrangement.

I was just thinking about it the other day. Alice just... doesn't hit as hard as I thought it would.

 

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8 minutes ago, NicoleAMatty said:

I was just thinking about it the other day. Alice just... doesn't hit as hard as I thought it would.

 

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Yup, the studio version of Alice is far superior to the live performance and is def one of her best house influenced songs ever. 

8 minutes ago, NicoleAMatty said:

I was just thinking about it the other day. Alice just... doesn't hit as hard as I thought it would.

 

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Yup, the studio version of Alice is far superior to the live performance and is def one of her best house influenced songs ever. 

Alice's performance suffers from Gaga just standing there, doing nothing (and no dancers either AFAIK).

21 minutes ago, DonnieDarko said:

Ian, obviously is siding with Richy, just like Gaga. 

Victor Roja too I suppose with Richy liking his posts.

 

(Mess not Jazz Tangcay being on every Gaga dancer IG profile too :rip:)

3 minutes ago, Sombre said:

Alice's performance suffers from Gaga just standing there, doing nothing (and no dancers either AFAIK).

I think the dancers are performing during the song. Let me check.

 

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2 minutes ago, Leptine said:

Victor Roja too I suppose with Richy liking his posts.

 

(Mess not Jazz Tangcay being on every Gaga dancer IG profile too :rip:)

Yeah, they’re def divided to two groups at least. One of them has Richy, Gaga, Ian and new dancers (since they’re literally praising Richy very often), the other group obviously is those couple of dancers that spoke out against Richy. 

3 hours ago, Bang Up said:

This excuse doesn't pass muster. If you are someone who truly believes in kindness AND believing victims of abuse, you do not shield yourself from accusations against a friend just because you love them. The dancers that were abused and pushed out were with Gaga just as long as Richie was so giving him a pass while throwing the other dancers under the bus is disgusting and makes no sense. I get that it's difficult, but it's the right thing to do.

 

I also understand that not everyone puts the same focus and importance on her advocacy and being a good person as I do, but it's pretty devastating to see your fave contradict themselves when it comes to something that is so personally important to you. Myself along with several of my friends are SA and abuse survivors who gravitated towards Gaga because of the "safe space" she created for people like her. This is a slap in the face. 

 

4 hours ago, Freaky Prince said:

You do have a point, but if my friend assaulted people who WORK for me, I'd definitely not want that person around me and people who work for me. This wasnt just one slip, dancers from the beginning of her career up until new ones all said the same. It was years of mental and sexual abuse. Sorry, shes in the wrong if she keeps him after the tour.

I just read your posts now and I agree you guys are right. I apologize if my comment came out as insensitive or tone deaf. If I may be honest, I think the reason why I got defensive earlier is because I do genuinely love her since she’s been a vital part of my life since I was 15 years old in 2008. Im not a cupcake stan by any means, I’ve criticize Gaga before but I think this time I went too far with my stan goggles and to be honest it may have to do with me attending the chromatica ball last week and having a very sentimental moment so naturally I felt protective of her even though she needs to address this ASAP. I still think some people are jumping the gun too quickly. She may drop him after the chromatica ball. I’m just concerned that even Richy exits the Haus, fans will still drag Gaga for still being his friend. I can see her dropping him after TCB but I can’t imagine her dropping him as a friend. It’s a very sensitive topic all around. It’s disappointing but I’d like to believe she is handling this behind the scenes and we just don’t know it yet. 

2 hours ago, NicoleAMatty said:

I was just thinking about it the other day. Alice just... doesn't hit as hard as I thought it would.

 

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I disagree. The performance itself is vital to the show, and no lyrics other than Alice fit the chemical depression/psychiatric idea behind that act. I think the reason why some may think it doesn’t hit as hard is because the song itself is a banger and a half. But ultimately Alice is one of the most Gaga performance ever.

Not our Celebrity Big Brother using a Gaga sosia in the new promo doing an audition:lmao:

 

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One month until the tour ends and the Traumatica era (finally!) comes to a close. And then we'll OFFICIALLY be in the J:FàD and pre-LG7 era :jonny5: 

 

There's also the HMH awards szn coming up, excited to see how she approaches the BOS campaign this time around as an Oscar winner already, unlike the last two times :ducky:

I really hope she doesn't waste her time on HMH honestly, keep low and smash with Joker FAD :coffee2: 

 

Give out some cute social media thank you's and call it a day. 

9 minutes ago, BadMonster said:

interested to see if they'll decide to submit the OR song instead

Isn't it ineligible because of the credited sample?

 

I feel that those were always their priorities - IAW was their "summer hit" commercial player and HMH will be their awards player 

3 hours ago, Leptine said:

unless they found a deal peacefully with each other in order to make him leave once the tour is over without creating drama and hard feelings which would be the best for both parts.

That’s my thought process.  Gaga is obviously proud of the work he has done and is still friends with him.  She wasn’t there to witness the abuse, but she doesn’t want to ignore the claims by her former dancers either.  She’s stuck in the middle, and I think Richy would understand if they parted ways after the tour ends due to the bad reputation he has amassed.  She’s also getting older, and the need for a dedicated on-call choreographer is probably not in play as she focuses more on acting and more spaced out music releases.   
 

The only way I can really judge her in this instance is if she invites him back for future projects.  If that’s the case, then she’s at fault too.

29 minutes ago, BadMonster said:

that's what I thought, that it was ineligible, but pretty much all the lists are predicting it?

Which ones? Haven't come across any major ones that include it (not like there's many predictions this early anyway)

 

Although I did see an IndieWire article discussing potential BP nominees recently where Anne Thompson (lol) said HMH could be one of the wins for the film :dies:

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Ariel has got her prince and now they're both drinking beer
Living life above the water, no octopus up here
It's kinda like I woke up in a Disney dream
But then I got real high and I became the queen

 

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52 minutes ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

There's also the HMH awards szn coming up, excited to see how she approaches the BOS campaign this time around as an Oscar winner already, unlike the last two times :ducky:

I'm honestly not expecting a ton. There will definitely be a huge campaign for TG:M in general and they will probably try and pull some strings bts, but part of me wouldn't be shocked if we only got an Oscars performance. Grammys/Globes/Late Night could happen but I'd be shocked if she went super out of her way for it. 

6 hours ago, DonnieDarko said:

 

Basically this

Proven? Like Mike Silas needs to post his medical records, footage of him being touched or? Kinda don't wanna know what y'all really think of Gaga's abuse since we've never seen "proof"

 

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56 minutes ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

 

 

There's also the HMH awards szn coming up, excited to see how she approaches the BOS campaign this time around as an Oscar winner already, unlike the last two times :ducky:

J:FAD will start filming from December, I doubt we will be getting anything more than few tweets thanking award circuit if HMH get wins/losses. She will just show up for Oscars night, and maybe critic choice awards.

 

SAG and BAFTA don't have BOS category, and I hope she pays Grammys and Golden Globes dust. 

She shouldn't do any kind of campaign for HMH which is exactly what I expect regardless of the fact she will busy with filming FAD.

It made sense for her the first time with Diane, since it was still the first time that she was introduced in that enviroment and was her first nomination, then for ASIB it was already about the best actress nod and then HOG, but at this point of her profile status she really doesn't need to campaign for an award that she already has for a field for which she doesn't have nothing to prove.

 

Plus after this year, **** campaignes tbh, time wasted, she did a whole campaign for nothing just to be dragged by dumb people, if they want to reward her they will do it regardless.

She should just attend if nominated if she's free like the Globes and then performing at the Oscar which I hope she will do the same performance of the tour.

11 minutes ago, EnigmaticAndroid said:

I'm honestly not expecting a ton. There will definitely be a huge campaign for TG:M in general and they will probably try and pull some strings bts, but part of me wouldn't be shocked if we only got an Oscars performance. Grammys/Globes/Late Night could happen but I'd be shocked if she went super out of her way for it. 

Yeah I'm not expecting much either on her part, she'll prob be pretty casual about it and maybe let Bloodpop do the dirty work of campaigning :eli: she definitely seemed super passionate about it when she posted all those tweets though so who knows. Globes are out of question, they're trash now. Grammys if we're lucky and she's nom'ed in one of the big categories bc she definitely ain't attending for just a visual media nom. Late night miss thing won't go unless she has a win she wants to rub in everyone's faces about.

 

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2 minutes ago, Leptine said:

She shouldn't do any kind of campaign for HMH which is exactly what I expect regardless of the fact she will busy with filming FAD.

It made sense for her the first time with Diane, since it was still the first time that she was introduced in that enviroment and was her first nomination, then for ASIB it was already about the best actress nod and then HOG, but at this point of her profile status she really doesn't need to campaign for an award that she already has for a field for which she doesn't have nothing to prove.

 

Plus after this year, **** campaignes tbh, time wasted, she did a whole campaign for nothing just to be dragged by dumb people, if they want to reward her they will do it regardless.

She should just attend if nominated if she's free like the Globes and then performing at the Oscar which I hope she will do the same performance of the tour.

I'm 80% sure the song will be nominated because the branch usually strategically picks a couple of songs from the list so the "big name" performs at the show. However, I'm also 100% sure this song is NOT winning. The song is nothing special, not to mention the fact that Maverick is likely winning some other tech categories.  Besides, 2nd Oscars in the same field are generally not just given by the academy just like that. 

 

I agree however that I do NOT want her to do any kind of promo for this, let it be. And in my opinion, it'd be better if she didn't get nominated.

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