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1 hour ago, storminthedark said:

I think the reception to the tours is probably one of the things she cares about most because as has been said, it's what brings her in the money along w Cered. The negative press CCT received is brought up with every new story about ticketmaster's failings (see Olivia Dean's tour) and the blame is definitely shifting onto the artists for not preventing at least some of the damage ticketmaster has done to live music and the consumer. I don't see that going away unless she actively tries to address it with preventative measures for Act 3 especially with the numerous pending lawsuits. Renny got lucky it was before a lot of the mess but every upcoming major tour is going to face similar press and audiences are fickle.

mte. the cct ticketing mess was especially bad because she got slammed for being greedy and trying to squeeze fans, and got dragged for the slow selling dates and empty seats. if she'd pulled #that girl's attendance numbers, most of the negativity would've been drowned out, but with most dates (except paris) taking ages to sell out it just made her look worse. the sad part is none of this would've happened with decent PR and cheaper tickets. in this economy, with people louder than ever about anti-billionaire and anti-greed sentiment (which will all only get worse by her next tour), you just can't get away with this stuff anymore.

 

one of the things she suffers from most these days is her lack of balance, she leans too much into the idgaf billionaire attitude and forgot when to apologize or explain herself. the old beyoncé knew when to ignore stuff (since most of the hate she gets is irrational nonsense) and when to speak up. 9/10 the increasingly numerous times she's publicly flamed for something nowadays could've been avoided with a well timed PR statement or quick note in her story. Tina's senile insta ramblings or Yvette jumping on twitter to say this is not true a month too late isn't cutting it anymore lol :deadbanana4:

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1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

mte. the cct ticketing mess was especially bad because she got slammed for being greedy and trying to squeeze fans, and got dragged for the slow selling dates and empty seats. if she'd pulled #that girl's attendance numbers, most of the negativity would've been drowned out, but with most dates (except paris) taking ages to sell out it just made her look worse. the sad part is none of this would've happened with decent PR and cheaper tickets. in this economy, with people louder than ever about anti-billionaire and anti-greed sentiment (which will all only get worse by her next tour), you just can't get away with this stuff anymore.

 

one of the things she suffers from most these days is her lack of balance, she leans too much into the idgaf billionaire attitude and forgot when to apologize or explain herself. the old beyoncé knew when to ignore stuff (since most of the hate she gets is irrational nonsense) and when to speak up. 9/10 the increasingly numerous times she's publicly flamed for something nowadays could've been avoided with a well timed PR statement or quick note in her story. Tina's senile insta ramblings or Yvette jumping on twitter to say this is not true a month too late isn't cutting it anymore lol :deadbanana4:

Yes. You can't ignore every rumor. Some things need to be addressed. And she knows what's going on. I used to believe she was clueless but now that I know Blue is aware of her manager meme (per Tina) tells me that they're all chronically online. I don't know how many times I have to say that it's time to let Yvette go but kiss ass hive gets so mad. "You think you know more than an industry veteran that has worked with her from the start???!!" 
 

yes. What does Yvette do? Tell me. QUICKLY!

9 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

i'm pretty sure if nothing else CCT's ticketing mess and the overall negative media attention its ticket sales got will wake something up in her.

 

either have a better organized and planned tour rollout next time, promote the accompanying album better or make the outrageously priced tickets somewhat more accessible. fact is, she'll have to come up with something quick for act iii tour, we can't have a redo of this mess for what could be her last big tour in a very long time :biblionana:

She literally put her rollout on pause because California was burning down. The tour was organized and had an announcement date that she delayed because of the fires. 

 

CCT did great considering she almost skipped out on touring the album altogether. 

 

Every single Beyoncé tour people find a way to complain about the prices of her tickets so I don't think she cares about that headline anymore at this point. Expect dynamic pricing and you'll be ready for whatever especially if this is her last big tour for a while.

 

4 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

mte. the cct ticketing mess was especially bad because she got slammed for being greedy and trying to squeeze fans, and got dragged for the slow selling dates and empty seats. if she'd pulled #that girl's attendance numbers, most of the negativity would've been drowned out, but with most dates (except paris) taking ages to sell out it just made her look worse. the sad part is none of this would've happened with decent PR and cheaper tickets. in this economy, with people louder than ever about anti-billionaire and anti-greed sentiment (which will all only get worse by her next tour), you just can't get away with this stuff anymore.

 

one of the things she suffers from most these days is her lack of balance, she leans too much into the idgaf billionaire attitude and forgot when to apologize or explain herself. the old beyoncé knew when to ignore stuff (since most of the hate she gets is irrational nonsense) and when to speak up. 9/10 the increasingly numerous times she's publicly flamed for something nowadays could've been avoided with a well timed PR statement or quick note in her story. Tina's senile insta ramblings or Yvette jumping on twitter to say this is not true a month too late isn't cutting it anymore lol :deadbanana4:

It's not even just cheaper tickets. The scheduling was terrible for cities with lots of dates. LA and London not being mostly on weekends was stupid. The lack of posts on her insta with dates and times of sale. Extra dates announced but no mention of them on her socials. She didn't use the biggest promotional tool, Tiktok, to promote the tour either. 

6 minutes ago, Shelter said:

It's not even just cheaper tickets. The scheduling was terrible for cities with lots of dates. LA and London not being mostly on weekends was stupid. The lack of posts on her insta with dates and times of sale. Extra dates announced but no mention of them on her socials. She didn't use the biggest promotional tool, Tiktok, to promote the tour either. 

and why would she? she sold them all out. clearly she knows what she is doing.

so thankful that she doesnt listen too much to her 'fans', who re arrogant to think they know a lot when they do not.

:eek: 🤯 I just bought Sony headphones. I was listening to fka twigs while the update was downloading. I initiated the update and they restarted, then a chime; all of a sudden:

 

FREAKUM DRESS starts blasting :deadbanana4: I didn't have it queued up or anything. Amazing tho :toofunny3: shook 

2 hours ago, NEUTRON said:

She literally put her rollout on pause because California was burning down. The tour was organized and had an announcement date that she delayed because of the fires. 

 

Every single Beyoncé tour people find a way to complain about the prices of her tickets so I don't think she cares about that headline anymore at this point. Expect dynamic pricing and you'll be ready for whatever especially if this is her last big tour for a while.

let's not act like that was out of pure philanthropy, she had to delay the tour announcement because it was physically impossible to sell dynamically priced tickets in a city that was currently burning down :deadbanana4:

 

as for the dynamic pricing i thankfully don't have to get ready for that since it's rightfully illegal in my country. the "she doesn't care about [insert anything that isn't money]" argument also isn't gonna work forever. not when she's currently on a mission to drive her remaining goodwill from fans and the public faster into the ground than Matthew goes through her purse :biblionana:

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On 11/28/2025 at 8:13 PM, Fleahive said:

Actually let's wake it up. 
 

Why aren't most of you listening to her albums in full anymore? I'll go first. 
 

Debut-self titled have become a chore to listen to entirely. I love the music, but I've loved the music for DECADES. I'm not going to listen to old **** every week of my life. They don't give me that same dopamine hit they once did. 
 

Lemonade I'm just never in the mood for. Low vibrational ass album. 
 

The Gift is her only album that has actually "aged" to me. Even DIL, despite it being so 2000s R&b coded, still feels relevant. I have zero desire to revisit this album. 
 

Renaissance I was obsessed with until I wasn't. If I do listen to it I'll skip half the songs or play the YouTube live versions from murphegrande or whatever that channel is called. 
 

Cowboy Carter has too many moods. I'm not into slower music lately so I only listen to the last quarter but even then I haven't went out of my way to turn it on in months. 
 

Overall: I think modern Beyonce albums are draining. Soul sucking. When I listen to any album from self-titled to now, I feel drained by the last song. Her songs have no replay value. NONE! So many songs are just too long with too much going on in the background. When was the last time she made a song without all that damn vocal layering? Why does she drag out songs for too long? My House, Virgos, Tyrant felt like career highlights but they're too draining to replay. I'm physically exhausted after one listen. I find myself taking longer and longer breaks from her entire discography now. And don't gaslight me and call me a hater cause YALL will sit in here and go "just listened to CC for the first time in months (insert Mariah Carey meme)." Or say you're getting bored with her career. 
 

So if her biggest fans on atrl are losing interest, what makes you think the geepee cares about her? They don't. 

Have you considered the idea that maaaybe... just maybe... you don't like Beyoncé?

 

 :suburban:

56 minutes ago, Rafael said:

Have you considered the idea that maaaybe... just maybe... you don't like Beyoncé?

 

 :suburban:

Being bored with her music because I overplayed it to hell and back means I don't like her? Oh brother-

 

but you were silent when everyone was in here calling her a stuffed turkey 

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1 hour ago, Fleahive said:

but you were silent when everyone was in here calling her a stuffed turkey 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:deadbanana:

:jonny2:

I say this as somebody who could probably still whip out the entire Single Ladies choreography TO THIS DAY :sistrens: there is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY^100 too much amazing music out there for y'all to be obsessing over Beyoncé in the ways that y'all do :bam:

13 hours ago, www2 said:

and why would she? she sold them all out. clearly she knows what she is doing.

so thankful that she doesnt listen too much to her 'fans', who re arrogant to think they know a lot when they do not.

Why would she what? Promote her music and tour? :rip: 
 

If she promoted and planned better, none of those articles would have happened.

5 hours ago, king_queen said:

I say this as somebody who could probably still whip out the entire Single Ladies choreography TO THIS DAY :sistrens: there is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY^100 too much amazing music out there for y'all to be obsessing over Beyoncé in the ways that y'all do :bam:

This year was pretty rough for music IMO, honestly, thank god for Hayley Williams and Rosalia, IDK what I would have done :lmao:
 

 

14 hours ago, www2 said:

and why would she? she sold them all out. clearly she knows what she is doing.

so thankful that she doesnt listen too much to her 'fans', who re arrogant to think they know a lot when they do not.

You're thankful that she left dynamic pricing on so that so many of us either had to spend insane amounts of money to see her, or not get the chance to see her at all? All it did was create a lot of negative press around the tour and her choices, made the tickets take even longer to sell, and most importantly, upset lots of her fans.

 

Just because you're part of the Bootlicker Hive doesn't make the rest of us arrogant for calling out her bad decisions. :coffee2:

1 hour ago, Lovett said:

 

I want this to finally debut on the Billboard Hot 100 this year. The highest it has climbed to is currently #102 (#2 on the Billboard Hot 100 Bubbling Under Chart). 

On 11/28/2025 at 5:41 PM, Devin said:

another performance i think could have been better is virgo's groove. it was good but she sat in that clam too long.

 

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I always thought that both VG and Heated performances felt a lil bit rushed, they certainly could translate better live with a different, slowed down arrangement

 

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16 hours ago, Fleahive said:

Being bored with her music because I overplayed it to hell and back means I don't like her? Oh brother-

 

but you were silent when everyone was in here calling her a stuffed turkey 

You dedicated an entire paragraph explaining how "NONE" of her songs have replay value, complaining about song length, structure and her background harmonization, like basically bemoaning her style of making music, the basic essence of her artistic identity. It pretty much sounds like her music isn't really for you anymore.

5 hours ago, Lovett said:

You're thankful that she left dynamic pricing on so that so many of us either had to spend insane amounts of money to see her, or not get the chance to see her at all? All it did was create a lot of negative press around the tour and her choices, made the tickets take even longer to sell, and most importantly, upset lots of her fans.

 

Just because you're part of the Bootlicker Hive doesn't make the rest of us arrogant for calling out her bad decisions. :coffee2:

dont play dumb with me.

my comment was clearly quoting the post of yours that is beyond silly-saying that she should have promoted the tour more on socials, tik tok and not lack of dates on weekends. there is valid criticism like dynamic pricing and then there is a wining crap like oh no dates just on the weekends.

 

 

some of yall need to touch grass, live life and learn to read properly.

very few of you understand bey or the music business, it shows. on the dynamic pricing / i cant claim i know if she is to be blamed and if so to which extent.

 

55 minutes ago, nooniebao said:

 

 

 

I NEED janelle on act 3

18 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

I NEED janelle on act 3

A Janelle collab would've been so exciting to me from like 2008-2019 lol 

18 minutes ago, nooniebao said:

 

 

 

 

 

Whew I know them hating twinks we're pissed! Throwback to Shakira uttering Beyoncé's name at her own concert and a twink loudly announced his dislike.

 

Unfortunately, this little prank will probably recirculate the thank you Beyoncé rumors. Especially if they win best new artist.

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