1 hour ago, benyonce said:

She ain't taking that stage to Australia for only 3 dates. There would be demand for 3 dates each in Sydney, Melbourne and Auckland. Let alone factoring in Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide, which could each have at least 1 date. That being said I feel she'd probably go the Eras tour route and just max out Sydney and Melbourne. People in Australia are accustomed to travelling interstate for concerts sadly.

Demand should be huge there. I think she can go anywhere she wants. She would sell a lot of nights in Brazil 

This is so sweet. It's things like this that make me love her so much.

 

3 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

I think she paced herself accordingly to the purpose of the era. She knew CC would not draw the same amount of crowd like Rennie due to its Country nature, therefore she did a fairly limited run with 32 shows. I believe the final act will be the one where she potentially aims for a billion in touring revenue (especially since the final act will get most exposure simply because it'll be the act she reveals the visuals for the trilogy). It would raise her overall touring gross to 3billion, an absolute legendary number. 

What needs to happen to achieve that:

- if we go by CC numbers, she'd need around 90 shows

- she hasn't toured the world whatsoever, so demand clearly is there.  

- she could do sth along the lines of 4-5 nights in Jo-Burg (5 dates in Africa)

- she could do 3 nights in Tokyo, 3-4 nights in Shanghai, 3 nights in Kuala Lumpur (10 dates in Asia)

- she could do 4-5 nights in Sydney/Melbourne (5 dates in Australia)

- she could do 4-5 nights in Rio de Janeiro and 3 nights in Mexico City (8 dates in Middle and South America)

+ her regular shows in North America and Europe similar to CC/Rennie (she could do like 3-4 more nights in Europe for sure => in Munich for instance)

=> that would equate to around 90 dates overall if we go by Rennie Tour dates

 

Maybe I overestimate her demand in Asia, but one could obviously add more dates to Australia for instance in order to balance things out.

 

I also believe the Trilogy will be her last BIG tour for at least a good 5-6 years, and seeing how the world is these days, might as well be even for a longer time. 

Conclusion:
Everyone better start their saving process now. It'll be a blood bath to get tickets for this legendary tour.

This plan sounds pretty good.

 

I wouldn't mind if she did this in 2028 instead of 2027, just to give more time for the GP & fans to take in the 3rd act and all the visuals released by then. I think there will be more demand until then after a 3 year gap instead of 2 years...

What evidence do we have that she'll be releasing visuals at the end? Honestly hope she never releases a music video again for how obnoxious and entitled her own fanbase has been about this 

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Why should she slow down after Act 3?

3 hours ago, Shelter said:

 

1+1, an album track, having the same certification as a lead single in NZ is crazy. 

A cult classic.

31 minutes ago, Chris said:

Why should she slow down after Act 3?

Its not about "should", but about likelihood.

If Blue truly wants to pursue a career as a musician, its just very likely that Bey will step down in some fashion to give room to Blue. 

Bey will be almost 50 by then. 

Also menopause is a thing and truly exhausts a woman's body.

Edited July 17, 20251 yr by Kristie Kuwa

If Jlo and Janet can still perform in their 50's, Bey will too. 

I could absolutely see a little "break" however. But not longer than LEM into REN.

21 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

If Blue truly wants to pursue a career as a musician, its just very likely that Bey will step down in some fashion to give room to Blue. 

Why can't Blue co-exist without her 50-year old mother? Why should Beyoncé renounce her passion because her kid is pursuing the same dream? We can have both. 

 

Also do we even know if Blue wants to be a singer? 

Also Aretha was still performing at 70 years old with a cancer-filled body, I don't see what's stopping Bey. If it's the dancing, she doesn't have to dance, and even then Tina was still giving her all when she was well over 50.

Slowing down doesnt mean retire

I just don't think she's gonna push herself with a global tour every 2-3 years in her 50s. Thats all.

 

Your reading competence is LACKING 

 

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1 minute ago, V$. said:

 

And I needed Darkchild for that quite obvious and apparent foresight that we have been stating ever since that Amazon Italia description of Renaissance got published in 2022, because?

 

1 hour ago, Chris said:

Why should she slow down after Act 3?

I think she'll be sitting on five or six years of unreleased music by the time the trilogy ends. If we assume that the three acts were recorded in majority between 2019 and 2022.

 

 

1 hour ago, dnboy1 said:

If Jlo and Janet can still perform in their 50's, Bey will too. 

I could absolutely see a little "break" however. But not longer than LEM into REN.

I can't with the The Gift erasure with some of you.. 

Edited July 17, 20251 yr by Tangane

I always think The Gift would have done better if:

- the standard edition didn't include the spoken word interludes

- was just called The Gift, rather than The Lion King: The Gift

 

I'd also love a version of Lemonade on streaming with the poem interludes from the film 

 

It seems yet another tour was inspired by Beyoncé. B has really become the touring bible for the industry.

 

Also the cc tour makes all the other tours( cept bad bunny) look low budget.

4 hours ago, family.guy123 said:

What evidence do we have that she'll be releasing visuals at the end? Honestly hope she never releases a music video again for how obnoxious and entitled her own fanbase has been about this 

renaissance press release saying "later date"

10 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

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- she could do 4-5 nights in Rio de Janeiro and 3 nights in Mexico City (8 dates in Middle and South America)

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I think you meant Sao Paulo, Rio isn't as good for so many dates. A lot of foreign tours only do SP, for example. 3 dates on a big venue there are very do able.

2 hours ago, CallumDavies said:

I always think The Gift would have done better if:

- the standard edition didn't include the spoken word interludes

- was just called The Gift, rather than The Lion King: The Gift

 

I'd also love a version of Lemonade on streaming with the poem interludes from the film 

100%. I remember GP being unable to find the album when Black Is King came out.

 

Easier:

The Gift (original version)

Black Is King: The Gift (Deluxe version)

 

Other things that would've made The Gift / The Gift: Deluxe bigger?

-  Including the "Spirit" acapella version she performed in the film with the purple / yellow (Kobe) choir as a bonus track.

- The one thing even the GP was asking for when she was announced for the film: a cover of Lion King on Broadway ballad "Shadowlands".

- Tack then-unreleased song "Grown Woman" on as a bonus track on to the deluxe instead of the 2 or 3 "Black Parade" extra versions.

- The 40-second Chillwave "Find Your Way Back" outro that ended the film version, and the 1:00 Jazz outro of "Mood 4 Eva" when they're playing human chess should've been their own interludes on the deluxe version. The former would've been perfect for TikTok edits. I'll post them below:

 

Chillwave Find Your Way Back (outro)

 

Mood 4 Eva (Jazz Chess outro)

 

Spirit (Acapella Choir Version)

 

Edited July 17, 20251 yr by trainsskyscrapers

2 hours ago, CallumDavies said:

I always think The Gift would have done better if:

- the standard edition didn't include the spoken word interludes

- was just called The Gift, rather than The Lion King: The Gift

 

I'd also love a version of Lemonade on streaming with the poem interludes from the film 

 

2 hours ago, Tangane said:

I can't with the The Gift erasure with some of you.. 

Everytime I listen to it I can't help but imagine how songs like Ja Are e or Keys to the kingdom would sound if she was the one singing them. Or how she should feature more on Water or My power.

 

That's its biggest detriment imo. That it's not a full Beyonce record. People wouldn't overlook it as much if it was. 

1 hour ago, Kisuke said:

Also the cc tour makes all the other tours( cept bad bunny) look low budget.

It's so hard not to compare at this point 

14 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

 

Everytime I listen to it I can't help but imagine how songs like Ja Are e or Keys to the kingdom would sound if she was the one singing them. Or how she should feature more on Water or My power.

 

That's its biggest detriment imo. That it's not a full Beyonce record. People wouldn't overlook it as much if it was. 

She needed to share the wealth with artists from the continent or it would've come off as cultural appropriation. 

Yes, we know her lineage, race, and knowledge to know more about her ancestors... but the media / African studies professors and authors would eat her up. Especially if she squandered the chance for African artists to get into business and build connections with arguably the biggest entertainment company on earth (Disney).

 

This is also why I think it was a precursor to her current trilogy: she was trying to musically reclaim The Lion King from Elton John and his fake onomatopoeia chants that were supposed to sound African.  Using Solomon Linda's original "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" in her film instead of the watered-down white version that has become popular was another indicator.

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