1 hour ago, Chris said:

That cement booty, bug eyed, coke sniffing, dumpy, frumpy, sloppy, skanky, ass backwards piece of garbage is still throwing jabs at Beyonce.

 

WHO are you even chirping at? 

The intro to YAYA got to her 

31 minutes ago, swissman said:

She referred to how (musical) visuals are distractions from how people consume and therefore experience music.
 

 

Ads for products logically aren't part of that statement, at all. If that were the case, we could say that about anything she did that wasn't visuals.

 

 

her other projects have musical visuals to pair them with so they don't have this problem, when all you have are commercials using the aesthetics/songs from your album era (cowboys, horses, etc!) and nothing else, then that becomes your "visual" for the album. 

 

Idk about yall but I've been craving a new pair of jeans. I'll buy some if they print Beyoncé face on the butt 

Beyoncés instagram comments are CRAZY. The unicorns are truly in full force. The more she posts the more they say she's trying to distract the public. Imagine what the other celebs that follow her (and don't pay attention to Stan twitter) think when they see this. I'm so sad for her. Then again she survived the pizza emoji mess so there's that. 

I hate that she's so nice to all of Hollywood and they all turn on her for no reason. Her life hasn't changed since she was a little kid being bullied for just existing. This particular lady probably hurt her feelings more than other situations.

She's redoing an iconic 1985 Levi's ad with Levii's Jeans. Might be cute. 

She deserves this wig that's all imma say

 

What Xtina just released would've been nice promo for the last 2 eras. Something like this on YouTube and tiktok 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Draper. said:

She's redoing an iconic 1985 Levi's ad with Levii's Jeans. Might be cute. 

If she does this right, it'll be hotter than that one Heat commercial 

2 minutes ago, king_queen said:

"Music videos are a distraction to the music, but using your song to sell products isn't."

 

Next thing bootlicking Hive is gonna say is how ad placements are some new revolutionary way to promote an era like gurl pls. She has become the equivalent of a Beats Pill in a 2012 music video. CC isn't even 6 months old yet it's about to fall off the charts so we clearly have found other ways to distract us 

Let's be absolutely clear about what she said to GQ.

"Sometimes a visual can be a distraction from the quality of the voice and the music."

 

What Beyoncé is saying is sometimes putting out a visual can distract from the material qualities of the music itself because it puts an emphatic stamp on the aesthetic and brings in a lot of other creative factors for people to focus their attention on and consume. An ad may do the same for some viewers, but really, no one is looking to an ad to receive deeper context of the song chosen for it. Ads are usually not even half the length of a song, so already it's nothing like the impact of a music video, nor will they ever (unless highly iconic and with a wide-release) be as emblematic of the song than an actual official music video will be. But correct me if I'm wrong, the extent of these "ads" in question are essentially IG reels, right?

I don't necessarily think it's a big deal if people are "distracted" with visuals but I do think once you have a visual it's very hard to imagine it any other way and that sometimes people focus more on the visual aspects than the music itself (See: Single Ladies, Formation) so I see her point. I don't have to agree with it fully to not let it upset me. You may call me a bootlicker for not being angry and complaining about it, but I simply don't see the big deal.

1 minute ago, swissman said:

Let's be absolutely clear about what she said to GQ.

"Sometimes a visual can be a distraction from the quality of the voice and the music."

 

What Beyoncé is saying is sometimes putting out a visual can distract from the material qualities of the music itself because it puts an emphatic stamp on the aesthetic and brings in a lot of other creative factors for people to focus their attention on and consume. An ad may do the same for some viewers, but really, no one is looking to an ad to receive deeper context of the song chosen for it. Ads are usually not even half the length of a song, so already it's nothing like the impact of a music video, nor will they ever (unless highly iconic and with a wide-release) be as emblematic of the song than an actual official music video will be. But correct me if I'm wrong, the extent of these "ads" in question are essentially IG reels, right?

I don't necessarily think it's a big deal if people are "distracted" with visuals but I do think once you have a visual it's very hard to imagine it any other way and that sometimes people focus more on the visual aspects than the music itself (See: Single Ladies, Formation) so I see her point. I don't have to agree with it fully to not let it upset me. You may call me a bootlicker for not being angry and complaining about it, but I simply don't see the big deal.

I haven't read the other long ass essays in this thread and I ain't reading this one.

 

I can tell you put some effort into this response though and for that, I commend you  

26 minutes ago, QueenB said:

her other projects have musical visuals to pair them with so they don't have this problem, when all you have are commercials using the aesthetics/songs from your album era (cowboys, horses, etc!) and nothing else, then that becomes your "visual" for the album. 

 

I don't really think that's the case. I'm a big fan and I cannot really off the top of my head think of what ad she used TYRANT or SWEET HONEY BUCKIIN' or any other COWBOY CARTER song for that matter for, though I know she put it on some IG story or reel or even an actual video at some point. So I can only assume that the average person has even less knowledge and a less ready association between the music and these "ads".

No matter how you spin it, the absence of visuals does not make the closet thing that we have to a visual become the visual, not even a little bit.

13 minutes ago, Draper. said:

She's redoing an iconic 1985 Levi's ad with Levii's Jeans. Might be cute. 

this could be legendary... please let levi jeans be the hit it deserves..

 

but I just know it'll be sent to pop radio in december 

3 minutes ago, king_queen said:

I haven't read the other long ass essays in this thread and I ain't reading this one.

 

I can tell you put some effort into this response though and for that, I commend you  

It's seven sentences plus a quote but okay.

TLDR: a music video and an ad are not the same thing and no one views them as the same thing.

It's just kind of crazy to me that it's 2024 and we're having the same basic "WHY ISN'T BEYONCÉ DOING WHAT I WANT HER TO DO" complaints as we did in 2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018...etc.

 

At some point you've just gotta take a breath and understand who Beyoncé is, where she is in her career, and what she is and is not likely to do.

ANYWAY

 

has anyone tried SIRDAVIS? I really want to but it's not available in my country.

i havent tried but i heard great reviews. im tryna boycott but i do love whiskey, ima buy a bottle.

26 minutes ago, swissman said:

Let's be absolutely clear about what she said to GQ.

"Sometimes a visual can be a distraction from the quality of the voice and the music."

 

What Beyoncé is saying is sometimes putting out a visual can distract from the material qualities of the music itself because it puts an emphatic stamp on the aesthetic and brings in a lot of other creative factors for people to focus their attention on and consume. An ad may do the same for some viewers, but really, no one is looking to an ad to receive deeper context of the song chosen for it. Ads are usually not even half the length of a song, so already it's nothing like the impact of a music video, nor will they ever (unless highly iconic and with a wide-release) be as emblematic of the song than an actual official music video will be. But correct me if I'm wrong, the extent of these "ads" in question are essentially IG reels, right?

I don't necessarily think it's a big deal if people are "distracted" with visuals but I do think once you have a visual it's very hard to imagine it any other way and that sometimes people focus more on the visual aspects than the music itself (See: Single Ladies, Formation) so I see her point. I don't have to agree with it fully to not let it upset me. You may call me a bootlicker for not being angry and complaining about it, but I simply don't see the big deal.

distractions =/= enhancements

 

I'm sorry but Single Ladies and Formation being used as examples as her quote about "distracting" visuals being correct..? I can't be bothered to explain how wrong that is, I'll just say i've never been "distracted" by a Beyoncé video and they actually made me appreciate the musicality more because of how great the video was. 

21 minutes ago, swissman said:

ANYWAY

 

has anyone tried SIRDAVIS? I really want to but it's not available in my country.

The bottle is cute, I haven't opened her yet as I personally hate whiskey, but ill crack her open later and give a review

 

8 minutes ago, QueenB said:

distractions =/= enhancements

 

I'm sorry but Single Ladies and Formation being used as examples as her quote about "distracting" visuals being correct..? I can't be bothered to explain how wrong that is, I'll just say i've never been "distracted" by a Beyoncé video and they actually made me appreciate the musicality more because of how great the video was. 

For the average person, was Single Ladies  more about the video/dance or the actual material qualities of the music? I'm not just talking about "oh this is catchy!" but appreciating the production, the vocal mixing, etc. as she says she wants people to do without the visuals now when her music is arguably richer, more dense and packed with more meaning and intention?

 

It's nearly impossible to think of Single Ladies song WITHOUT thinking of the video. This is why I cited it.

And even if the video enhanced your appreciation of the song, it therefore has changed your experience of it.

 

Put another way, people were mad at the video when it came out because it was so simple. They had other visions of how the video should be. BUT today no one ever thinks of a club setting or anything else for it nor do they expect a more detailed video. The video usurped one's own experience of the track and is how people engage with it now.

 

I don't think her statement that "sometimes" visuals can be distractions needs to be taken as 100% truth in order for it to be a way of thinking for her at the moment. Beyoncé has long been about changing things up, competing with herself and questioning status quo in an effort to see what becomes of it.

 

We could say her famous "they don't make albums" quote isn't 100% true either. But the fact that some artists were indeed still focused on making "albums" not collections of "quick little singles" neither changes nor negates her creative motivation.

pink wig cement ass is not getting a peep from neque, I know this is just making her cokehead spiral more.

 

The mess in the discord.

 

4 hours ago, Devin said:

i havent tried but i heard great reviews. im tryna boycott but i do love whiskey, ima buy a bottle.

Yeah same just waiting for that right weekend to indulge in whiskey.. it's gotta get a lil colder outside for me

I got a bottle and drank it on the night of the presidential debate. We made the sir Davis old fashioned and the Houston. I preferred the old fashioned between the two but the Houston tasted way smoother after a few min of settling.