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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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Songs that she needs to perform at the Act II tour:

 

That’s Why You’re Beautiful (played directly before/after 16 Carriages)

Suga Mama

Irreplaceable

Best Thing I Never Had

Daddy Lessons (I mean I think this one is a given)

All Night

Jealous (kind of a reach but it deserves a moment)

If I Were A Boy

 

1+1 and Rather Die Young can also return.

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If the visuals for both renaissance and act 2 are coming together I wonder how I’ll feel about it. I’m assuming each album will get its own film but it’s still interconnected in some way. It could be a combined film (but I don’t want that)

 

on one hand maybe the films cannot stand alone and need the other for context/to make the experience more worthwhile which means the delay for renaissance is arguably justified(ish). However if act 2 is more successful than renaissance as an album i can see act 2’s visuals completely overshadowing renaissance’s which would be a shame

12 minutes ago, Burn said:

Songs that she needs to perform at the Act II tour:

 

That’s Why You’re Beautiful (played directly before/after 16 Carriages)

Suga Mama

Irreplaceable

Best Thing I Never Had

Daddy Lessons (I mean I think this one is a given)

All Night

Jealous (kind of a reach but it deserves a moment)

If I Were A Boy

 

1+1 and Rather Die Young can also return.

All of these are feasible except That's Why You're Beautiful. I would wager that song will never be performed again 

6 minutes ago, luxurious said:

If the visuals for both renaissance and act 2 are coming together I wonder how I’ll feel about it. I’m assuming each album will get its own film but it’s still interconnected in some way. It could be a combined film (but I don’t want that)

 

on one hand maybe the films cannot stand alone and need the other for context/to make the experience more worthwhile which means the delay for renaissance is arguably justified(ish). However if act 2 is more successful than renaissance as an album i can see act 2’s visuals completely overshadowing renaissance’s which would be a shame

I don't think they're gonna be sequential in the film if they are combined. I think act i and act ii songs will be intermixed in that case

2 hours ago, sillycilla said:

Do you all really go back to CIL?

I still hear it on the radio sometimes.

 

:jamming:

Renaissance outdoing a streaming giant like Ariana is kind of crazy to me. :rip: 

 

US first week streams:

 

Rennie: 179m 

Position: 173m

Eternal Sunshine: 115-125m prediction

 

We need those preorders puta. :jonnycat:

If Rather Die Young can get a tour performance, I don't see why Green Light, Freakum Dress, Suga Mama, Jealous, Kitty Kat, No Angel, 6 Inch, & others can't.

2 hours ago, Negiiiii said:

If you want to talk just about the actual MUSIC, so we don’t include « concept » or « context » whatsoever… Lemonade is her most BORING album I can’t remember when I listened to that album for the last time… it’s very boring, too many mid tempo/ballads…

Girl... 

Bored Cabin Fever GIF

Also Hold Up, Sorry, Freedom, Don't Hurt Yourself, Formation, 6 Inch is half of the album and none are midtempos nor ballads. Hell even Daddy Lessons swings!!! 

prince roger nelson GIF

1 hour ago, Burn said:

When listening to the album version of AHAP it’s impossible to not hear the elements of the remix in my head. :skull:
 

She really elevated an already perfect song.

So true!! :lmao:

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52 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

All of these are feasible except That's Why You're Beautiful. I would wager that song will never be performed again 

TWYB will be revived for act III :alexz:

Done moaning for now lol, but one quick contextual bit to add to the preorder noise: Ariana Grande...with all her streams, #1 single, format variations, and a lengthy preorder frame is only predicted to do 165k-185k. 

 

In fairness, she has never been a huge first-week sales girl, but she is a huge artist. It  just further highlights why everyone (Bey included) ought to be doing everything needed to snatch where possible because nothing (at all) is guaranteed. Especially with an album that drives left of what Bey's "usual" audience expects.

1 minute ago, BnPac said:

Girl... 

Bored Cabin Fever GIF

Also Hold Up, Sorry, Freedom, Don't Hurt Yourself, Formation, 6 Inch is half of the album and none are midtempos nor ballads. 

prince roger nelson GIF

So true!! :lmao:

Hold Up is literally mid tempo

sorry’s introduction is FIRE but then the song is boring :(

freedom is unlistenable the way I hate this song is beyond

 

the only songs I use are Formation and when I think of it 6 inch…

 

Bday tho !? Banger and banger and banger. Same goes for Renaissance. 

We have fans hating on Lemonade?

 

:shakeno:

 

Go to church right now and repent please.

Then when you're done, put Church Glass on blast and twerk your ass.

59 minutes ago, luxurious said:

However if act 2 is more successful than renaissance as an album i can see act 2’s visuals completely overshadowing renaissance’s which would be a shame

I've been mulling this a lot. From all angles. E.g. the Act II visuals overshadow or the other way around.

 

I don't doubt that Bey will successfully spin it all to her favor (she always does). Like, I highly doubt the GP are any the wiser about half the ish we complain about on here.

 

But for we, the fans, it would be hella unfortunate if (for example) everyone is so enamored with the Texas, 16 Carriage, etc videos that the presumably epic videos for Alien, Cuff It etc fly under the radar. Or a scenario where the latter are so amazing that no one gives the Act II visuals their fair due. I kinda think that may be the one slight downside of this all. 

 

We'll see.

 

21 minutes ago, Starshine said:

Renaissance outdoing a streaming giant like Ariana is kind of crazy to me. :rip: 

 

US first week streams:

 

Rennie: 179m 

Position: 173m

Eternal Sunshine: 115-125m prediction

 

We need those preorders puta. :jonnycat:

The fact that those 115-125M are on an album that’s 35 minutes long while Renneigh about 30 minutes, heck almost twice as long. 

1 hour ago, luxurious said:

If the visuals for both renaissance and act 2 are coming together I wonder how I’ll feel about it. I’m assuming each album will get its own film but it’s still interconnected in some way. It could be a combined film (but I don’t want that)

 

on one hand maybe the films cannot stand alone and need the other for context/to make the experience more worthwhile which means the delay for renaissance is arguably justified(ish). However if act 2 is more successful than renaissance as an album i can see act 2’s visuals completely overshadowing renaissance’s which would be a shame

Even a brand new album with brand new videos couldn’t overshadow renaissance visuals. If they come at the same time, even better. Renaissance will get a big boost. People already know and love the songs and will be happy to finally see the visuals, while also appreciating the new stuff. Especially if it’s connected well

9 minutes ago, Triton said:

The fact that those 115-125M are on an album that’s 35 minutes long while Renneigh about 30 minutes, heck almost twice as long. 

Well to be fair, that's an advantage to Renaissance. The longer the album/the more songs, the highest the chance of big numbers. Ariana is doing well for an 11-track album. 

4 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

I've been mulling this a lot. From all angles. E.g. the Act II visuals overshadow or the other way around.

 

I don't doubt that Bey will successfully spin it all to her favor (she always does). Like, I highly doubt the GP are any the wiser about half the ish we complain about on here.

 

But for we, the fans, it would be hella unfortunate if (for example) everyone is so enamored with the Texas, 16 Carriage, etc videos that the presumably epic videos for Alien, Cuff It etc fly under the radar. Or a scenario where the latter are so amazing that no one gives the Act II visuals their fair due. I kinda think that may be the one slight downside of this all. 

 

We'll see.

 

The biggest thing is how is she going to tie them in all together… what’s the story? 

 

BIK and Lemonade had somewhat of a story but it got help from poems/breaking it down to 11 chapters  and the story of TLK. 
 

Whats the overall arc of this?
 

Renaissance being born again, liberated, self assertion… what is Act 2 about? 
Could she please give a bit more info on this overall project? 

My theory is that the act 2 visuals are set before the act 1 visuals…

 

E.g. the story starts with a country girl (act ii) who goes to the city (that scene of us seeing her drive off in the car in the act ii teaser) and then we go into the Renaissance visuals.

2 hours ago, Redporus said:

And y’all need to shut up about her doing low opening numbers already. 
 

There is absolutely no way she will open with less than 300k, promo or no promo/marketing at all….be for real.

 

Her brand equity still has a strong demand on consumers.

 

:zzz:

You cannot seriously believe she will do over 300k without ANY pre-orders or multiple album versions. :deadbanana2:

 

 

 

Those were the Act 1 numbers with pre-orders in advance, multiple boxes strategy, #1 single (the only thing she now has again).

The fact we still have no info of the album yet

 

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5 minutes ago, Triton said:

The biggest thing is how is she going to tie them in all together… what’s the story? 

 

BIK and Lemonade had somewhat of a story but it got help from poems/breaking it down to 11 chapters  and the story of TLK. 
 

Whats the overall arc of this?
 

Renaissance being born again, liberated, self assertion… what is Act 2 about? 
Could she please give a bit more info on this overall project? 

I'm actually pretty confident in the story aspect of it. 

 

I think the initial chatter was about her being indoors/downtrodden, "escaping" to the world of Rennie and presumably now some throwback Country town for Act II and somewhere else for Act III. All on a journey of self-discovery.

 

It's a pretty loose and adaptable story arc. Literal where need be, abstract where need be. Also, universal and pretty ever-green.

 

Given that she avoids dialogue-based acting, I'm actually most interested in the visual devices she'll use to move the story along. Especially if she is the protagonist.

36 minutes ago, Burn said:

My theory is that the act 2 visuals are set before the act 1 visuals…

 

E.g. the story starts with a country girl (act ii) who goes to the city (that scene of us seeing her drive off in the car in the act ii teaser) and then we go into the Renaissance visuals.

Have seen a few theories suggesting similar (about the story not being linear) and I'd be here for it. 

 

What I love about music and, in many ways Bey herself, is that the rules are that there technically aren't any rules. 

 

I just hope that this 2-part film concept proves true, because if we get the Act 1 & Act 2 visuals together now, there's no ambiguity about what we're getting for Act 3.

Any chance that lunatic naz* racist piece of trash Kanye will drop Vultures 2 on Bey's day? He should have released on the 8th. Imagine a song as big as carnival blocking her everywhere come 3/29 :skull:

 

And now Future announced 2 f*cking new albums. 1 the week before Act 2 and 1 the week after :psyduck:

 

This is sooo packed... oh my God

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