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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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1 minute ago, Lose My Breath said:

The timeless smash that CIL is... 

 

I love how Halo was her biggest track in the streaming ERA, and now it's working out to be CIL, which is what it should be!  Poor SL was left in a ditch.  Texas will end up being her most streamed track though

Halo is still going strong tbh, it will grow too. 
 

I don’t get SL streams, should be at least 500k. 

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Ariana‘s Yes, and? went from 2.4 million to 5.5 million today. Texas should get a nice boost like that when the album comes.
 

It went from 500k to 1.5 million in the US. Texas could get another week at number 1 if radio holds. 

Hopefully Beyonce does preorders and releases physical components, because she could do less than 100k in the US if not, after seeing Ariana's numbers

4 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Hopefully Beyonce does preorders and releases physical components, because she could do less than 100k in the US if not, after seeing Ariana's numbers

Man! Why did the US loose love for this so quickly. I want this to be the biggest first week sales of her career! She deserves all the love and recognition the world has to offer. 

Ok now I can say it. This is straight up TORTURE we’re living and I can’t DEAL it’s so HARD OMG!!!!!!!!


sis is dropping in 20 days wheeeew!!!!!!!

19 minutes ago, Burn said:

I love how she’s not even acknowledged this #1. :deadbanana2: At least she acknowledged BMS.

Was she acknowledging BMS or Renaissance? We will never know :lmao: 

 

12 minutes ago, Beyoncei said:

Man! Why did the US loose love for this so quickly. I want this to be the biggest first week sales of her career! She deserves all the love and recognition the world has to offer. 

we didn’t lose interest, she did

12 minutes ago, Beyoncei said:

Man! Why did the US loose love for this so quickly. I want this to be the biggest first week sales of her career! She deserves all the love and recognition the world has to offer. 

IDK, was it TikTok?  Was that was propelling it the way it was in the US?  It's held pretty well everywhere else outside of the US after removal, but has kind of collapsed here in the states

25 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Hopefully Beyonce does preorders and releases physical components, because she could do less than 100k in the US if not, after seeing Ariana's numbers

This. 


At the risk of sounding like a broken record, does the "Beyonce can do what she wants" and "numbers don't matter" crew finally see what a lot of us have been moaning about?

 

Streaming success of one song does not always translate into huge numbers for its attached album.

 

Ariana, as an artist with a younger more streaming-based audience, is doing a little over "good" numbers but isn't just storming out of the gate with this project. 

 

Bey actually has the advantage of always doing well with physicals to offset her previous lagging on streaming. So, it will be vital for her to make that a big part of her sales push alongside streaming (now that her overall streaming numbers are up). 

 

I'll reserve remarks in full until seeing Ariana's streaming vs physical breakdown, but there's just no reason for Bey to not already capitalizing on the "Beyonce goes Country" hype with a preorder link.

 

Texas, while doing decently, is now sliding in her main market, which makes me wonder about what that means for the album's opening). Hype is a very fleeting and intangible thing, as is virality (just look at the impact of it being snatched off TikTok). Imagine her having the preorder up DURING the thick of it all. 

 

My very rational worry is that she's letting both hype and curiosity purchases slip through her fingers, while also giving herself a way narrower window to sell competitively big numbers.

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29 minutes ago, Burn said:

I love how she’s not even acknowledged this #1. :deadbanana2: At least she acknowledged BMS.

She acknowledged BMS and Rennie going #1 the same week. Bey is an album artisté, so I think she cares more about the album going #1 than a single

10 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Was she acknowledging BMS or Renaissance? We will never know :lmao: 

 

we didn’t lose interest, she did

UK would argue

8 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

This. 


At the risk of sounding like a broken record, does the "Beyonce can do what she wants" and "numbers don't matter" crew finally see what a lot of us have been moaning about?

 

Streaming success of one song does not always translate into huge numbers for its attached album.

 

Ariana, as an artist with a younger more streaming-based audience, is doing a little over "good" numbers but isn't just storming out of the gate with this project. 

 

Bey actually has the advantage of always doing well with physicals to offset her previous lagging on streaming. So, it will be vital for her to make that a big part of her sales push alongside streaming (now that her overall streaming numbers are up). 

 

I'll reserve remarks in full until seeing Ariana's streaming vs physical breakdown, but there's just no reason for Bey to not already capitalizing on the "Beyonce goes Country" hype with a preorder link.

 

Texas, while doing decently, is now sliding in her main market, which makes me wonder about what that means for the album's opening). Hype is a very fleeting and intangible thing, as is virality (just look at the impact of it being snatched off TikTok). Imagine her having the preorder up DURING the thick of it all. 

 

My very rational worry is that she's letting both hype and curiosity purchases slip through her fingers, while also giving herself a way narrower window to sell competitively big numbers.

Sis keeps teasing us with a good rollout only to sabotage it in some way. I am always positive in thinking it’s part of some master plan. Either way I am excited that this month we get a whole new album from the queen. This month!!! Let that sink in 🤪

40 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Hopefully Beyonce does preorders and releases physical components, because she could do less than 100k in the US if not, after seeing Ariana's numbers

That's what I was explaining to the fan that said physicals or not, it doesn't matter, as long as she foes 300k, we're good. People do not realize that streaming does not give you huge first week sales unless you're Drake, pure sales do ! 

With almost 60M streams first day, Ariana is predicted to do around 80K from streaming. 

I feel bad this is "colapsing" in the US but at the same time we are talking about 1M+ daily while BMS was already doing 400K at this time and that calms me down a bit :psyduck:

 But anyway, I am actually pretty confident, I feel like they must have a plan! There's no other way. 

1 minute ago, Rafael said:

I feel bad this is "colapsing" in the US but at the same time we are talking about 1M+ daily while BMS was already doing 400K at this time and that calms me down a bit :psyduck:

Because she was doing over 2 million daily, and now is doing 1.1 on her biggest streaming day of the week.  That's collapsing.  Sunday will be probably 800k or less

Wonderful, Fabulous people. I have always loved reading all of your comments, inputs, reviews and shadiness. I am now 31 but I remember being in college studying mechanics (lol) and this being my safe place to be myself and feel closer to B. Thank you all. I finally created an account… We are in the middle of a great time to be a Beyonce stan and I hope you all don’t mind me finally joining. Thank you all for being a huge part of my 20’s (behind the scenes). 

2 minutes ago, BnPac said:

 But anyway, I am actually pretty confident, I feel like they must have a plan! There's no other way. 

She’s dropping the preorders during the Oscars with the official film trailer. Netflix has set aside 100M for a massive ad campaign 

2 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Because she was doing over 2 million daily, and now is doing 1.1 on her biggest streaming day of the week.  That's collapsing.  Sunday will be probably 800k or less

It’s been a minute month tho… 

our standards have changed so quickly :dies:

In trying to remain Optimist Hive, Imma just hope there's a something they have up their sleeve. Because, to her defense, none of us imagined the Verizon thing would be what it was. And that single-handedly turbo-charged and accelerated everything that followed. 

 

If there's a tour or live something on the horizon, she needs to not play and make the people preorder the album for presale access. Billboard doesn't let artists bundle anymore, but there are permitted ways of making one pillar (touring / live shows) work to the benefit of another (music sales).  

 

Similarly, cash in on that damn Amazon relationship; IIRC Taylor did some kind of exclusive merch/music deal with Amazon for one of her albums that helped move big #s.

 

Possibly delulu, but I also think we may really be getting the visual alongside the album or in the same window as the album. Maybe the part 1 of the rumored 2-part film. Something about Nadia Lee Cohen confidently sharing "coming soon" with the trailer and the current radio silence makes me surmise that it's their main "promotional vehicle".

 

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Even then, because there are no guarantees that that will translate into tangible sales, I still think the preorder ought to have been here. But alas it is what it is.

1 minute ago, Beyoncei said:

Wonderful, Fabulous people. I have always loved reading all of your comments, inputs, reviews and shadiness. I am now 31 but I remember being in college studying mechanics (lol) and this being my safe place to be myself and feel closer to B. Thank you all. I finally created an account… We are in the middle of a great time to be a Beyonce stan and I hope you all don’t mind me finally joining. Thank you all for being a huge part of my 20’s (behind the scenes). 

Welcome! 

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26 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

This. 


At the risk of sounding like a broken record, does the "Beyonce can do what she wants" and "numbers don't matter" crew finally see what a lot of us have been moaning about?

 

Streaming success of one song does not always translate into huge numbers for its attached album.

 

Ariana, as an artist with a younger more streaming-based audience, is doing a little over "good" numbers but isn't just storming out of the gate with this project. 

 

Bey actually has the advantage of always doing well with physicals to offset her previous lagging on streaming. So, it will be vital for her to make that a big part of her sales push alongside streaming (now that her overall streaming numbers are up). 

 

I'll reserve remarks in full until seeing Ariana's streaming vs physical breakdown, but there's just no reason for Bey to not already capitalizing on the "Beyonce goes Country" hype with a preorder link.

 

Texas, while doing decently, is now sliding in her main market, which makes me wonder about what that means for the album's opening). Hype is a very fleeting and intangible thing, as is virality (just look at the impact of it being snatched off TikTok). Imagine her having the preorder up DURING the thick of it all. 

 

My very rational worry is that she's letting both hype and curiosity purchases slip through her fingers, while also giving herself a way narrower window to sell competitively big numbers.

you do sound like a broken record....

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