3 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

now don’t give them any ideas 

 

yeah but they can’t even do that correctly… how do you start an era and the vinyls aren’t ready and have to be shipped 4 months later, why wasn’t there enough stock for the preorders, only one measly CD on album release with ? a single limited edition vinyl (that was VERY limited) when any indie artist these days has at least 5-6 vinyl variations for preorder and certain fellow pop girls have like 15 different vinyls lol… 

 

those ugly cheap merch collabs no one wants instead of just restocking the limited edition album merch people DID like and which sold out too fast (i’ll buy that cunty rolling tray before i buy a 50€ amazon sweatshop shirt) 

 

if they just handled the vinyls and cds better the album would’ve debuted with 500k instead of 300k… and they can’t even get that right 

 

they even fumble the basics like when they released Cuff It, AHAP remix etc… they didn’t even put them together in a single playlist with the already released singles (something EVERY artist does now) so that they’d ALL get a boost from the new release

The singles made no sense like you’re supposed to put the og song on there too  

 

as for all the merch and stuff I think she wasn’t expecting Renaissance to be as successful as it was so they didn’t make that much stuff

38 minutes ago, Otter said:

Parkwood in all honestly are probably just reacting to her impulses lol.

I've worked for someone like this before - they were a nice person but it was exhausting and I always felt on edge because weeks of work would be thrown out to acommodate their change of whims. In some ways it was worse than working for the monster I'd worked for before  

 

I've always felt that was the vibe of Parkwood too but the payoff there is so great because when it works you get to see the whole world worship the work you did

59 minutes ago, Dreajae said:

All these stories about Bey planning small, then acting shocked that she needs to meet demand are disinhearting. Like the ST drop. She saw how well the GP supported Lemonade while doing the bare minimum. She was behind Drake and Adele for best selling album.

 

Yes the Gift flopped, but she had to know that she didn't even put enough into the movies promo run to warrant a decent enough return. 

 

I want Beyonce to fully realize her commercial appeal and take her place on the throne. You are a big enough artist to the point where these messy rollouts are unacceptable. I appreciate her staying grounded, but Yvette and others gotta go. They cannot handle her star power. The leak said it all! 

She doesn’t get that her collab projects =/= her solo work. The demand for SOLO Beyoncé never dwindled that was clear when BMS came out the gate swinging on singles charts when she finally did a normal lead single release after 10 years of games. Whoever on her team is making her think too small has gotta go. I think renny made her even more relevant and in demand cuz now everybody is wondering where is her music videos and is she coming to their country for a concert 

2 minutes ago, bijonse said:

The singles made no sense like you’re supposed to put the og song on there too  

 

as for all the merch and stuff I think she wasn’t expecting Renaissance to be as successful as it was so they didn’t make that much stuff

Like that’s just basic streaming/spotify knowledge 14 year olds know about but not at Parkwood it seems

 

But even flops like Melanie Martinez and co have multiple vinyl choices upon album release day and i doubt they expect to upon with a million first week sales  

 

Her/Parkwood’s problem is that they see things happen and see the reactions, and instead of reacting as quick as possible they do : nothing.

And it’s always the same thing… 

 

Same for the "she wanted some videos and then decided on a full film last minute” thing like how are you doing this AGAIN when it miserably failed the first time i just don’t get it 

1 minute ago, bijonse said:

Whoever on her team is making her think too small has gotta go. 

i say it’s Yvette GRAB HER 

Bey underestimates herself, the only project where i think she was fully aware that it was gonna be a smash is lemonade, and I think she thought EIL was gonna be a huge success and…

 

4, ST, the gift, Renaissance you can tell she thought would flop. She even put it in the lyrics of haunted that she didn’t think it would make any money back from she put in

I just saw an LA Times article about the mute challenge. It's becoming the most important aspect of the tour. If the folks at Parkwood had any sense they'd convince her to put one of the successful mute moments on tiktok. 

 

1 hour ago, bwhansen said:

The way everything finally clicks together after months of confusion 

 

When did Nadia post that? Did Bey post hers after?

Completely forgot she has a TikTok  

Just now, ScorpiosGroove said:

i say it’s Yvette GRAB HER 

WHO booked her that tiny ass stadium in london, only one show in Paris, no shows in Italy, irrelevant German cities instead of Berlin and munich etc. like she is BEYONCÉ. And WHO is telling her to skip the rest of the world like those stadiums won’t sell out in 10 minutes each like they did in europe, got her going to ******* kentucky and Minnesota but not São Paulo?

1 minute ago, bijonse said:

Bey underestimates herself, the only project where i think she was fully aware that it was gonna be a smash is lemonade, and I think she thought EIL was gonna be a huge success and…

 

4, ST, the gift, Renaissance you can tell she thought would flop. She even put it in the lyrics of haunted that she didn’t think it would make any money back from she put in

I think Beyoncé expected EIL to do better than it did, given it was the third piece in the Lemonade trilogy after 4:44 (which I actually think is a beautiful statement and end to that saga), BUT I also don't think she put any value whatsoever in its success or failure. I mean...I love the album but the era as a whole has less thought and care than even just Formation. They recorded it while rehearsing for their tour, it was not giving "this is meant to be my next smash masterpiece", it feels and sounds very much like a fun record to put out while on tour.

The tone of this base changes so quickly lol.

Last night it was "Beyoncé is asking for too much" now it's "Beyoncé thinks too small."

Just now, swissman said:

I think Beyoncé expected EIL to do better than it did, given it was the third piece in the Lemonade trilogy after 4:44 (which I actually think is a beautiful statement and end to that saga), BUT I also don't think she put any value whatsoever in its success or failure. I mean...I love the album but the era as a whole has less thought and care than even just Formation. They recorded it while rehearsing for their tour, it was not giving "this is meant to be my next smash masterpiece", it feels and sounds very much like a fun record to put out while on tour.

Idk I think they thought it was gonna smash, there were rumors about a joint album from them way before it actually came out and I think she thought it was something ppl really wanted. It wasnt, but I’m glad she had fun doing it. It felt like a jay album ft. Bey when it shoulda been the other way around

Why do you guys assume they thought Renaissance will flop? Nothing points to that. 

 

I don't think a team of professionals who are in tune with Beyoncé's career wouldn't recognize that The Gift and EIL are different than Beyoncé's own projects. Not only that but The Gift even before BIK was more successful than the movie's own soundtrack. I also don't think Parkwood is a problem, my uncle always said that the mindset of an organization, a country or a group is a reflection of their leader. Beyoncé is probably just more obsessed with the creative side of things at the exclusion of anything. 

 

There was also very little from that article to go on about. We all don't know anything. 

yeah it's kind of jarring and frustrating to see that they think so little of what they can accomplish. It might explain some of the odd choices. 

 

What the hec is the disconnect between her music persona " top 2 and I ain't number 2" to thinking her album lowkey won't do well? She isn't the best manager for herself.  Era's like lemonade and Renaissance had so much opportunity to be major. 

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1 minute ago, swissman said:

Last night it was "Beyoncé is asking for too much" now it's "Beyoncé thinks too small."

While they may seem opposite, the common denominators of both sentiments are that she's out of touch, has questionable judgement, and is bad at fanservice.

 

And these things are true

Just now, swissman said:

The tone of this base changes so quickly lol.

Last night it was "Beyoncé is asking for too much" now it's "Beyoncé thinks too small."

An artsy music film is just not gonna attract the attention of people outside the her hardcore stans the same way smaller music videos would so if she’s tryna get millions and millions for them then yeah that’s unrealistic BUT if she really thinks she can just tour the US and a couple EU cities like she’s some small artist and not THEE Beyoncé THEE star THEE female artist that everyone looks up to then that’s also unrealistic 

4 minutes ago, bijonse said:

Idk I think they thought it was gonna smash, there were rumors about a joint album from them way before it actually came out and I think she thought it was something ppl really wanted. It wasnt, but I’m glad she had fun doing it. It felt like a jay album ft. Bey when it shoulda been the other way around

Really? It felt more Beyoncé heavy to me, if only for the fact that she sang hooks and rapped verses. But do you just mean the type of production and tone of the album was more in his lane? I can for sure see that, though I think that's what's refreshing for me as a fan of this side project, it's another avenue for her creativity that she might not otherwise utilize on her own. Plus I've always really enjoyed her features on his albums (Hollywood, Part II, Family Feud, and of course her cover of Holy Grail)

6 minutes ago, bijonse said:

only one show in Paris,

Actually the France's thing was kinda unorganized. They had another Paris' show and a show in Lyon ready to be announced. They just didn't make sure to get everything in order and check everything before hand. Because of the railroads' summer work, the other dates could not go through. Which should have been a known information to them. They just made a mistake. 

1 minute ago, swissman said:

Really? It felt more Beyoncé heavy to me, if only for the fact that she sang hooks and rapped verses. But do you just mean the type of production and tone of the album was more in his lane? I can for sure see that, though I think that's what's refreshing for me as a fan of this side project, it's another avenue for her creativity that she might not otherwise utilize on her own. Plus I've always really enjoyed her features on his albums (Hollywood, Part II, Family Feud, and of course her cover of Holy Grail)

That’s what I’m saying it was her singing hooks on his songs and then going into his style instead of her singing songs and having him as a feature like smh I blame him she probably wanted to let him have his moment on those songs. Summer and Apeshit are exceptions to that though. 
 

the album sounds more like all those jay ft Beyoncé songs you listed and nothing like the Beyoncé ft jay songs that are way better 

On a positive note I'm as impressed by Renaissance's album tracks' streams as Lemonade's (whatever you guys say, the singles' streams are flops but the album tracks are actually doing good). 

 

Even in the streaming era, she's still a album's artist imo. 

4 minutes ago, BnPac said:

Actually the France's thing was kinda unorganized. They had another Paris' show and a show in Lyon ready to be announced. They just didn't make sure to get everything in order and check everything before hand. Because of the railroads' summer work, the other dates could not go through. Which should have been a known information to them. They just made a mistake. 

 She coulda done like 3 more shows in Paris instead LMFAO they would’ve sold out. Hopefully she’s doing more shows, I’ll make my way to paris, brazil, sydney etc. for muva 

 

19 minutes ago, bijonse said:

WHO booked her that tiny ass stadium in london, only one show in Paris, no shows in Italy, irrelevant German cities instead of Berlin and munich etc. like she is BEYONCÉ. And WHO is telling her to skip the rest of the world like those stadiums won’t sell out in 10 minutes each like they did in europe, got her going to ******* kentucky and Minnesota but not São Paulo?

probably the same asshat who tells her "no Bey, the fans don’t want performances and more singles they want obscure easter eggs and gowns, cause YOU are the queen of the world" 

 

and yes i’m blaming Yvonne for all of that too 

I don't believe for one second Bey expects to perform less commercially than she does. The lady has been doing this for 25 years. Y'all just say that to try to explain her lack of trying  ultimately, she just doesn't give a ****. 

 

23 minutes ago, bijonse said:

WHO booked her that tiny ass stadium in london, only one show in Paris, no shows in Italy, irrelevant German cities instead of Berlin and munich etc. like she is BEYONCÉ. And WHO is telling her to skip the rest of the world like those stadiums won’t sell out in 10 minutes each like they did in europe, got her going to ******* kentucky and Minnesota but not São Paulo?

Exactly.

 

And people are acting like it was Beyoncé on the phone making all these dumb af bookings, sewing the shitty merch and pressing the vinyls herself like she doesn't have a team full of dumbasses making these stupid decisions.