16 minutes ago, carameldelight said:

LOL, I gave two real life examples and there's plenty more. Sure it's in my head. 

There's a difference between a few people saying stupid hater **** and an overall consensus opinion. Beyonce doesn't have a legacy known for a weak discography. Very much the opposite and too many receipts to support it. Not idiots on a pOdCaSt.

2 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

The easiest solution is to simply not care what other people think about her  

 

Particularly that Andrew guy... like why am I gonna put stock in what he thinks about her abilities or her discography? 

This....

I also give some of the Beyhive the side eye when they try to come for Taylor who is an amazing talent even if her live vocals leave a lot to be desired. People will always have some wild views steeped heavily in their bias', personal preferences and tastes. 

Edit: Oh & when they drag Gags

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5 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

There's a difference between a few people saying stupid hater **** and an overall consensus opinion. Beyonce doesn't have a legacy known for a weak discography. Very much the opposite and too many receipts to support it. Not idiots on a pOdCaSt.

There's also a difference between random idiots on a podcast and industry people on a podcast or radio where that sentiment has far reach. It seeps into conversation. 

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6 minutes ago, carameldelight said:

There's also a difference between random idiots on a podcast and industry people on a podcast or radio where that sentiment has far reach. It seeps into conversation. 

 

sweetie....beyonce made history as the most decorated artist for the highest award in music. Stop the paranoia.

2 hours ago, carameldelight said:

Why would I make that up? lol  Have you been in a bubble? They will say x artist has the hits but Beyonce is the better performer. (rihanna, katy, taylor, etc) 

 

You don't have to go far to find that very argument happening right now. I didn't say they were accurate, I'm stating when you haven't had a major hit in 14 years and mostly been MIA on the charts, it's easy for people to forget what you have done.  And I'm not even going to touch the grammy topic. That's a nuanced discussion.

You're not lying.  Thats the go to for Beyonce, that she has no hits or doesn't have the catalogue.  Was a huge discussion point when everyone was talking about potential verzus competition for example.

 

I just decided that if Bey wants that to be her legacy, so be it.  She wont course correct until the GP not knowing her songs impacts tour sales.

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20 minutes ago, Otter said:

This....

I also give some of the Beyhive the side eye when they try to come for Taylor who is an amazing talent even if her live vocals leave a lot to be desired. People will always have some wild views steeped heavily in their bias', personal preferences and tastes. 

The Taylor vs Beyonce stan war is so tired, namely because we've been here before with any number of pop stars from Adele to Rihanna.  Truthfully it's a testament to Beyonce's staying power and her continued relevance, but tired nonetheless.

 

They're nothing alike as artists and the only similarity they have is they're both on mega successful tours most artists can only ever dream of. But stans can't bear the thought of anyone being perceived as better than their fave or being liked more because they need to be validated in their own love of an artist. Very weird tbh.

8 minutes ago, Blumoon said:

You're not lying.  Thats the go to for Beyonce, that she has no hits or doesn't have the catalogue.  Was a huge discussion point when everyone was talking about potential verzus competition for example.

 

This feels silly though. Her DC-4 catalogue is packed full of ubiquitous hits everyone knows. Just naming things off the top of my head

 

Say My Name

Bills Bills Bills

Survivor

Independent Women

Bootylicious

Lose my Breath

Crazy in Love

Baby Boy

Irreplaceable 

Ring the Alarm

If I Were a Boy

Single Ladies

Halo

Run the World

Love on Top

This isn't even including anything beyond 4 or any of her hit features. Many artists would literally murder someone for this many hits over an entire lifetime and she did it in like 10 years

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8 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

The Taylor vs Beyonce stan war is so tired, namely because we've been here before with any number of pop stars from Adele to Rihanna.  Truthfully it's a testament to Beyonce's staying power and her continued relevance, but tired nonetheless.

 

They're nothing alike as artists and the only similarity they have is they're both on mega successful tours most artists can only ever dream of. But stans can't bear the thought of anyone being perceived as better than their fave or being liked more because they need to be validated in their own love of an artist. Very weird tbh.

As I was exiting the stadium, this white woman asked her 10 year old daughter who was better live as they went to both shows (she said Bey ). I was just put off why would she even ask that? I don't get where it's coming from... no one even compared the two even during Lemmy/Reputation when Bey was getting outsold on all fronts commercially.  

 

Just now, Starshine said:

As I was exiting the stadium, this white woman asked her 10 year old daughter who was better live as they went to both shows (she said Bey ). I was just put off why would she even ask that? I don't get where it's coming from... no one even compared the two even during Lemmy/Reputation when Bey was getting outsold on all fronts commercially.  

 

Women in pop are just competing in a never ending sexism Olympics 

 

A lot of straight women live to tear a successful woman down, gay men live through them and use them to fight by proxy like on ATRL, and straight men typically refuse to give them credit out of fear of seeming gay.  

21 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

This feels silly though. Her DC-4 catalogue is packed full of ubiquitous hits everyone knows. Just naming things off the top of my head

 

Say My Name

Bills Bills Bills

Survivor

Independent Women

Bootylicious

Lose my Breath

Crazy in Love

Baby Boy

Irreplaceable 

Ring the Alarm

If I Were a Boy

Single Ladies

Halo

Run the World

Love on Top

This isn't even including anything beyond 4 or any of her hit features. Many artists would literally murder someone for this many hits over an entire lifetime and she did it in like 10 years

How did you put Ring The Alarm there but not Naughty Girl

 

NG is so underrated by the fans, I really feel like it's one of her most iconic and recognizable hits. Play the chorus to anyone over the age of 15 and they will know it's Beyoncé right away! 

1 minute ago, AxelFox said:

How did you put Ring The Alarm there but not Naughty Girl

 

NG is so underrated by the fans, I really feel like it's one of her most iconic and recognizable hits. Play the chorus to anyone over the age of 15 and they will know it's Beyoncé right away! 

When I said off the top of my head I meant it.  I wasn't really putting a lot of thought into it, but NG should be there.

44 minutes ago, Otter said:

I also give some of the Beyhive the side eye when they try to come for Taylor who is an amazing talent even if her live vocals leave a lot to be desired. People will always have some wild views steeped heavily in their bias', personal preferences and tastes. 

I am a fan of both women, but I really dislike the other fan base. extremely obnoxious individuals who appear to have not known music until they became fans of her.

 

there are certain truths that should be apparent to anyone with a logical, anti-racist frame of thinking. vocals, dance, live show, cultural significance. no one outside of ATRL/stan twitter would even think twice about picking who's better in those particular lanes.

 

Just now, ShouldersSideways said:

A lot of straight women live to tear a successful woman down, gay men live through them and use them to fight by proxy like on ATRL, and straight men typically refuse to give them credit out of fear of seeming gay.  

the accuracy  plus, there's the culture war side of it all. a Black and queer-centered celebration versus the epitome of cis het white womanhood (which is fine, there's nothing inherently wrong with that).

12 minutes ago, Starshine said:

As I was exiting the stadium, this white woman asked her 10 year old daughter who was better live as they went to both shows (she said Bey ). I was just put off why would she even ask that? I don't get where it's coming from... no one even compared the two even during Lemmy/Reputation when Bey was getting outsold on all fronts commercially.  

 

 

7 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Women in pop are just competing in a never ending sexism Olympics 

 

A lot of straight women live to tear a successful woman down, gay men live through them and use them to fight by proxy like on ATRL, and straight men typically refuse to give them credit out of fear of seeming gay.  

In 2015, I took my older sister to see Madonna at Barclays. As soon as the lights came up after the show I asked her how she liked it and she said "Beyonce was better." I said She was referring to having seen the Mrs Carter Show at the same venue like two years earlier. Your post just reminded me of that. And let me say I'm still pressed! 1) Be gracious, mannerless HAG, I paid a lot of money for your ticket 2) That's not what I asked 3) What prompted the comparison besides the building being the same? Worms

9 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

 

In 2015, I took my older sister to see Madonna at Barclays. As soon as the lights came up after the show I asked her how she liked it and she said "Beyonce was better." I said She was referring to having seen the Mrs Carter Show at the same venue like two years earlier. Your post just reminded me of that. And let me say I'm still pressed! 1) Be gracious, mannerless HAG, I paid a lot of money for your ticket 2) That's not what I asked 3) What prompted the comparison besides the building being the same? Worms

It seems to me like muva really is the standard.  

Like lets save #that comparison for ACT II when she does country. 

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Is this really the first minute of the film and the first part of the actual I’m That Girl mv or was this just filmed as a quick throw away teaser cause idk what this clip is supposed to be…

4 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

Is this really the first minute of the film and the first part of the actual I’m That Girl mv or was this just filmed as a quick throw away teaser cause idk what this clip is supposed to be…

I don't think it's the actual first half of I'm That Girl/part of the film. it feels more like something they shot for fun (her lip syncing to the song) and threw together with some select excerpts from the film. but we don't know, none of us know the real tea.

JayZ is back on instagram. OTR3 is coming 

 

3 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

JayZ is back on instagram. OTR3 is coming 

 

Prediction: ACT 2 and 3 drop at the same time with act 3 being the rumored jay-z collab album and OTR3 gets announced

4 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

JayZ is back on instagram. OTR3 is coming 

 

She's the only person he follows and I assume like last time she'll follow him back, then he'll delete once whatever he's using it to promo is over.

 

48 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

Prediction: ACT 2 and 3 drop at the same time with act 3 being the rumored jay-z collab album and OTR3 gets announced

I'd rather have nothing

2 hours ago, Blumoon said:

You're not lying.  Thats the go to for Beyonce, that she has no hits or doesn't have the catalogue.  Was a huge discussion point when everyone was talking about potential verzus competition for example.

 

I just decided that if Bey wants that to be her legacy, so be it.  She wont course correct until the GP not knowing her songs impacts tour sales.

Thank you! I hate when people try to gaslight you.  It's a conversation that happens way to often with Beyonce. 

 

I just decided that if Bey wants that to be her legacy, so be it.  She wont course correct until the GP not knowing her songs impacts tour sales.

 

I'm slowly getting there.

54 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

She's the only person he follows and I assume like last time she'll follow him back, then he'll delete once whatever he's using it to promo is over.

 

The way she wasn't the person he was actually following at first.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Blue Rose said:

JayZ is back on instagram. OTR3 is coming 

 

Please no. Literally no one has asked for it.

1 minute ago, carameldelight said:

Please no. Literally no one has asked for it.

The way that man is like a plague the Hive avoids.  We don't want that man! Stay away from her!