we havent had Irreplaceable since what, Mrs Carter? She can be added back on the setlist, she needs a stadium debut 

She needs to include No Angel on a tour.

 

An ACTUAL full performance, not this "check my body" shenanigans.

 

 

44 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

no I Care no definitive top 5 i fear

 

nnn me doing a 2 year PayPal plan for my ticket at lunch today

TWO YEARS??? My PayPal only allows for three months 

4 minutes ago, QueenB said:

we havent had Irreplaceable since what, Mrs Carter? She can be added back on the setlist, she needs a stadium debut 

If the rumors about act ii and act iii are true, I hope both Irreplaceable and If I Were A Boy come back. I'd be happy to hear them after ten years

WHY is this song not on streaming

 

 

 

I don't like this new arrangement.....

 

On 8/2/2023 at 7:33 PM, Fleahive said:

Oop last thing cause I know I'm hitting my limit in this base today and I don't want y'all to start jumping me for talking too much nonsense.

 

I was thinking to myself what is it about Beyonce that doesn't stick with Gen Z/Alpha? Just based on random tiktok videos that bring up artists it seems like they don't care for her AT all. Besides her being too old/not relatable/self sabotaging/not being alive during her "prime". I wanted to get to the root of it. I've come to this conclusion. Gen Z/Alpha likes depressing music. All their favorite modern rappers and popstars make sad love songs. They want their music to replicate the emotions they're feeling inside. This generation struggles with mental health more than any. I realize Beyonce consistently makes the most uplifting music out of every mainstream singer MALE OR FEMALE that I can think of. Even songs where she talks her ****, she's still trying to uplift the listener. ***Flawless, Pretty Hurts, Bigger, Spirit, BMS, Brown Skin Girl, the list goes on. Seriously look at her discography of the last ten years and count how many songs are positive and how many aren't. If she isn't singing about being IN love or talking about how rich she is, she's trying to make the listener feel better about themselves. THAT is why they don't like her. They just care about aesthetic and vibes. But that is why she's my all-time favorite artist. She makes me feel good when I'm not feeling so good.

Meh. I wouldn't say Bey only makes feel good music, especially when her album before her most recent one is Lemonade, which quite literally fits all the depressing/sad/questioning relationship things you mentioned (I can envision the TikTok girlies eating tf out of Love Drought Hive needs to make that viral and save Lemonade tragic recurrents chile).

As a Gen Zer myself I can tell you it's quite simple:
1) She has largely remained hitless during our youth. And that's no shade. Speaking personally the earliest songs I have vivid memories of are from 2008 and I would consider music of 2009-2015 my "childhood music". Bey had literally tail end of IASF and DrIL as only undeniable hits during that period. Then Gen Zers really came to our own and "took over" the charts during 2017-2020, which she was also absent from. This combo is deadly, someone like Rihanna might've also been absent during the Gen Z takeover but she ran so much of our childhood that she stays with us. So if Bey does not make initial connection with the generation, why would they care for her? 

 

2) You are seriously underestimating the relatability factor. Your link of Gen Zers liking depressing music is part of them liking relatability (teens and people going through their early 20s are an emotional mess). Bey is the complete opposite of relatable in every sense of the word. The "Queen above us all" might've worked well for Millennials in 2015, but Gen Z doesn't f*ck with it. It is literally a marketing tactic by labels now to try and make new artists look as "homegrown"/"just like the rest of us" as possible to get the reliability factor. "This pop star writes music with her brother in her childhood bedroom", "this popstar just got her drivers license and is using it to stalk her ex", etc.

 

Overall, from my experiences with my friends and social media comment sections, I would not say Gen Z doesn't like Bey. I've seen multiple viral videos of more "relatable" moments of her (it can be something simple like a +800K liked TikTok I saw the other day of her interview about the making of Partition), and it's not common that I experience people openly hating her. The vibe is more so like "Yeah, I know Bey, but she isn't really my thing".

Edited August 5, 20233 yr by Machete

3 hours ago, Shone Ai said:

I’m BROKE broke sis and got five things on Afterpay 

So what's one more to add to the pile 

41 minutes ago, Shone Ai said:

TWO YEARS??? My PayPal only allows for three months 

pretty sure it’s a new option because I hadn’t seen that before today! the interest is admittedly ridiculous, but the cost per month fits my budget better atm and I can always pay it off early when conditions improve 

3 hours ago, giRLbye. said:

Break My Soul is her best lead single since Deja Vu

Yessss. Maybe since CIL 

me refreshing my avi every couple days despite the utter lack of visuals to pull from 

 

Beyonce really be singing her ass off...i'm not even talking about RWT....i've been going down a rabbit hole of old performances & concerts. plenty of material available to make the claim that she is one of the greatest vocalists of all time. anyone who doesn't know it just wants to be in denial. thats why i'm kinda like "eh" when ppl say they want her to do an album of ballads or pure vocals. yeah i get it...but if the wealth of material available doesnt already prove it to them...then nothing ever will.

3 hours ago, R.E.M. said:

3 tours in 7 years  she'll be almost 50. There's no chance that happens.

I can see the tour for act ii being a limited theater residency if it is a lo-fi acoustic album 

What song do you think aged the worst on the LEMONADE album?

 

Personally, I think it’s Sorry…..that song is a hit or miss these days for me. The sound is just grating to me

2 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

Beyonce really be singing her ass off...i'm not even talking about RWT....i've been going down a rabbit hole of old performances & concerts. plenty of material available to make the claim that she is one of the greatest vocalists of all time. anyone who doesn't know it just wants to be in denial. thats why i'm kinda like "eh" when ppl say they want her to do an album of ballads or pure vocals. yeah i get it...but if the wealth of material available doesnt already prove it to them...then nothing ever will.

She's the greatest technical vocalist of all time I think, disregarding tone/emoting/etc. 

And when you compare her to Whitney and Mariah's which were declining rapidly in their 40s, it really shows how excellent her technique is to hold up so well.

1 hour ago, kimberly said:

me refreshing my avi every couple days despite the utter lack of visuals to pull from 

 

Whoa this knocks

4 hours ago, Slamless said:

WHY is this song not on streaming

 

 

Does she sample this song on Cozy for the Renaissance World Tour?? Or is this edible I ate just hitting 

1 hour ago, Redporus said:

What song do you think aged the worst on the LEMONADE album?

 

Personally, I think it’s Sorry…..that song is a hit or miss these days for me. The sound is just grating to me

Sorry was dated upon arrival, she chose to release that as a single to promote the album and lost AOTY for it. The lyrics are cringe and the annoying “eye ain’t sorray” “suck on my balls” is unforgivable. Glad Lemonade is flopping because of it. Worst song in her discography.
 

Now the original demo… a whole different story. 

4 hours ago, Slamless said:

WHY is this song not on streaming

 

 

Right!? 
 

A gem! We need Beyonce in the studio with a full orchestra. 

4 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

If the rumors about act ii and act iii are true, I hope both Irreplaceable and If I Were A Boy come back. I'd be happy to hear them after ten years

If I Were A Boy…. Now that’s a hidden gem she needs to bring back. The way it would have the stadium’s belting it out, especially in Europe 
 

Im surprised she didn’t change the set list for US and Europe. 
 

 

I really wanna hate her and stop caring but when I see stuff like this

 

 

 

Wow

 

Her mannerism, body language and expressivity are surreal. She was born to do this. 
 

It's especially interesting watching her up close next to the dancers because while you can tell they are executing the moves better she is just so much more entrancing to watch. 
 

Oprah said it best. This comes from a source that creates the planets, there's no other way. 
 

 

3 hours ago, Redporus said:

What song do you think aged the worst on the LEMONADE album?

 

Personally, I think it’s Sorry…..that song is a hit or miss these days for me. The sound is just grating to me

It was a childish jingle at release too! And she sacrificed hold Up, just so Sorry could tank the era. She should of left it as a trending song that the Gworls could play at their predrinks instead of throwing it at the radio/ GP. Imagine you most mature album being represented by Sorry... Giselle!!

 

 

22 hours ago, Tangane said:

 

 

For those who want to revisit Renaissance with very good remixes! I've been bopping to this since yesterday and it's a nice change of scenery.

listening rn, skipped cozy cuz the remix did not give what it was supposed to have given but ngl this new mix of BMS is better than the official version 

7 hours ago, R.E.M. said:

This isn't really true, though? I'm Gen-Z (as are my friends) and we love Bey  At the RWT in Toronto my section was mostly late teens/early-mid 20-somethings. For context, I wasn't alive when DC was popping but that doesn't mean I didn't grow up listening to DC - their music has always been featured prominently in our community/family functions/social events. Even though IASF is the first Bey era I 'remember', the streaming age made it possible to discover her older albums so despite some of us joining the Hive later in her career, we still ride for her older music that we grew up listening to (but we're entirely infatuated with because we were too young to 'stan'). On the rare occasion I do meet a Gen-Z who doesn't like Bey they're either a. White/don't like ""Black"" music b. Try to be edgy/don/t want to play into the 'Goddess' persona. There really is no objective way to measure Bey's pull with Gen-Z. Some might argue we should look at streaming stats but I think that's more of a promotional problem.

 

The fact that Bey only has two real studio albums released in the streaming age has set her back tremendously. One of her most culturally significant albums, Lemonade, was also locked away in Tidal Tower for years. It doesn't help that the projects she did put out outside of studio albums were poorly marketed (e.g., EIL & Mufasa music). Ultimately, I think if she had done a proper studio album in 2018 and 2020/2021 before Reneigh, her streaming stats would be much better off and she'd feel bigger. Prominence in the streaming era is about volume. The most streamed female artists are Ariana and Taylor and the former has put out 4 albums & the latter 8 albums in the streaming era

this, the only reason she's not as "big" with our generation is because of lack of promo, i still remember when the day where i listened to all her albums for the first time at my grandmas house in summer 2019 shortly after the gift had dropped, and i don't even think i knew OF the gift's existence until Black is king was announced.

 

i regularly introduce my friends to her music and specific more "obscure" songs (obscure to the Geepee), and there has not been a single song they dont like, HELL they even like the mufasa music!!! 

Not another round of people not getting Sorry.