4 minutes ago, Toxicity. said:

The Billie avi has been in here a full 10 hours. At some point the mods have to step in. We need some blood circulation. 

This thread isn't even 10 hours old. Not surprised the person who called me an Ariana stan when I don't even like her also can't tell time.

2 minutes ago, Gaia said:

 

 

 

@Headlock

 

Are these not...Swifties? Not sure how you seem to think Swifties weren't being shady or trying to start the drama as per usual 

 

Or are you an ostrich who sticks your head in the ground and ignore the actions of your own fanbase and thinks no one notices. 

If those posts are what can be called "shady" or "snarky", then I swear you OTHs have the thinnest skin in the stan world EVER.

 

3 minutes ago, Headlock said:

They’re apparently not obsessed with Taylor, and are also by their own words not a stan of Adele, and yet they spend all their time in Adele/Taylor threads arguing about the two of them. Makes you think 

Dear lorde, and they have audacity to call us "playing the victim" while calling us even worse things like psychopaths, scammed, delusionals, etc at the same time. The hypocrisy of them all!

2 minutes ago, Gaia said:

So...Swifties making shady comments about Adele/her numbers are valid comments but

It’s not shade because it’s true, jfc 

And they weren’t even being annoying, they were literally just pointing it out. And again, other fanbases were doing the exact same thing 

 

4 minutes ago, Gaia said:

 

 

And funny how calling praising red and calling Taylor the music industry isn't shade towards Adele, but Taylor fans have RAGED anytime someone called Adele the music industry. The constant hypocrisy is funny.

Because “The Music Industry” began as an inside joke to talk about Taylor, it came from a magazine cover/Barbra Walters interview segment from the 1989 era. People started calling Adele the music industry on here to say she was above Taylor, of course stans  wouldn’t take kindly to that 

 

It would be like calling Adele “The Lord” 

Just now, Rep2000 said:

If those posts are what can be called "shady" or "snarky", then I swear you OTHs have the thinnest skin in the stan world EVER.

 

Dear lorde, and they have audacity to call us "playing the victim" while calling us even worse things like psychopaths, scammed, delusionals, etc at the same time. The hypocrisy of them all!

Funny. This whole stanwar started because a few people said Adele was the real music industry. That's all it took to trigger Swifties this hard. I think Swifties are the ones with thin skin here

5 minutes ago, Gaia said:

You guys keep saying I said the pandemic started in July but aren't quoting the post. Interesting. 

And suddenly you can't read, I see.

  

On 11/30/2021 at 11:41 AM, Gaia said:

Retail stores were open during the start of the pandemic  People still got groceries and went shopping in 2020. What even is this excuse?

 

Restrictions didn't include grocery (Target, Walmart, etc.) stores. Sorry but her album was not any less available due to COVID. What stores were closed in July of 2020 that stunted her sales?

 

No one is playing dumb, just not falling for any dumb excuses. COVID was as real in 2020 as it is in 2021.

 

There were more US deaths from COVID in 2021 than 2020. Again, stop using COVID as an excuse. It's still very real and honestly pathetic.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Gaia said:

This thread isn't even 10 hours old. Not surprised the person who called me an Ariana stan when I don't even like her also can't tell time.

The way I knew you’d cling to the time I posted and pathetically count to the minute to try to spring up another argument  Omg such weirdo behavior. 
 

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Congrats to everyone. A surging Black Friday week  

 

Another day another war between Adele fans and Swifties.

 

The fact that a re-recording being compare to a brand new studio album say it all. Lol.

 

At least Adele will dissapear soon and become a non factor in the next 8 years while Taylor will continue to slay the decade.

1 minute ago, Headlock said:

It’s not shade because it’s true, jfc 

And they weren’t even being annoying, they were literally just pointing it out. And again, other fanbases were doing the exact same thing 

 

Because “The Music Industry” began as an inside joke to talk about Taylor, it came from a magazine cover/Barbra Walters interview segment from the 1989 era. People started calling Adele the music industry on here to say she was above Taylor, of course stans  wouldn’t take kindly to that 

 

It would be like calling Adele “The Lord” 

So if Adele fans went into a Taylor thread and said any component of her sales was disappointing, are you saying Taylor fans wouldn't reply? No one believes that. I'm sure not even you do.

 

I don't care about the origin. At this point - both sides are using it as shade against the other and I'm sure you're not obtuse enough to fail to see that. Not even Swifties called her the music industry every damn change they got until this random as **** rivalry appeared out of nowhere

8 minutes ago, Marianah Adkins said:

You do know that the attack against Adele has already happened even prior to the album release, ever since Red TV moved release dates. The way since EOM was dropped, there was a flood of threads attacking Adele suddenly (and majority of them came from Swifties- not some random OAH hiding behind her).

 

It speaks volumes that Swifties specifically have been camping and attacking Adele (which is diff from the OTHs who come from different fanbases). And supposedly we triggered the conflict? Considering that you yourselves claim that they are OTHs hiding behind Adele, what’s with the fuss then with attacking Adele directly? For someone who has no problem with Taylor (and whose core fanbase was historically cordial with the Swifities- until recently), the amount of hate she’s been recieving from the fanbase is as harsh than the ones who actually had conflict with Taylor (eg. Bieber).

Speak on it sis 

 

And I don't wanna hear the "but OTHs hided behind Adele to attack Taylor" excuse. If you guys were so sure about people hiding behind Adele (because apparently the world revolves around Taylor), then why fall for the bait and attack it back? The only thing you guys managed to do were to alienate actual Daydreamers and turn them against y'all so don't play the victims now

8 minutes ago, Gaia said:

You guys keep saying I said the pandemic started in July but aren't quoting the post. Interesting. 

Exhibit A: the comment prompting yours, referring to Folklore’s opening week, in July of 2020

On 11/29/2021 at 7:16 PM, PoisonPill said:

Yes let's play dumb and pretend to not understand the difference between summer 2020 active nationwide quarantine vs. two years into a pandemic with mass vaccination and nearly all restrictions and closures lifted.

Exhibit B: your response

On 11/29/2021 at 7:41 PM, Gaia said:

Retail stores were open during the start of the pandemic  People still got groceries and went shopping in 2020. What even is this excuse?

 

Restrictions didn't include grocery (Target, Walmart, etc.) stores. Sorry but her album was not any less available due to COVID. What stores were closed in July of 2020 that stunted her sales?

 

No one is playing dumb, just not falling for any dumb excuses. COVID was as real in 2020 as it is in 2021.

 

There were more US deaths from COVID in 2021 than 2020. Again, stop using COVID as an excuse. It's still very real and honestly pathetic.

 

 

You’re welcome.

Why do you guys keep replying to someone who had to resort to lying about a global pandemic to downplay Taylor and praise their fave 

3 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Funny. This whole stanwar started because a few people said Adele was the real music industry. That's all it took to trigger Swifties this hard. I think Swifties are the ones with thin skin here

You literally quoted some posts with the mildest reactions to Adele and called them "shady"/"snarky", dear. But sure, somehow the swifties are the thin skin ones to you .

1 minute ago, Rep2000 said:

And suddenly you can't read, I see.

  

 

NONE of anything in that post said the pandemic started in July of 2020. Girl, reading comprehension. PLEASE  

 

Grocery/Retail never closed with the pandemic shut downs starting in March 2020.

Folklore was released in July of 2020 and the user I was quoting said Folklore sales were impacted from retail stores not being open due to the pandemic. I did not state the pandemic started in July 2020.

There HAVE been more COVID deaths in the US in 2021 than in 2020, indicating COVID has still been a very real issue. So "Folklore was released during the pandemic" is not an excuse when everything released this year, has also been released during the pandemic.

 

Reading. Comprehension.

3 minutes ago, Gaia said:

So if Adele fans went into a Taylor thread and said any component of her sales was disappointing, are you saying Taylor fans wouldn't reply? No one believes that. I'm sure not even you do.

 

I don't care about the origin. At this point - both sides are using it as shade against the other and I'm sure you're not obtuse enough to fail to see that. Not even Swifties called her the music industry every damn change they got until this random as **** rivalry appeared out of nowhere

Oh please, as if you're not the only one who still consistently tried to fued this conflict to this very moment. So much for someone who "don't care" with the most posts in this thread and the last.

8 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.music.mariah.carey/c/BSKbP3Eio1Q/m/BGVtH7l3jwAJ

 

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.music.mariah.carey/c/1m3Bdn1zEYE/m/AQckuHT38ggJ

 

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.music.mariah.carey/c/pnbjKIiAwfs/m/gUGQyVgYgggJ

 

people haven't changed lol

 

 I wish I could use glitchahh rn

3 minutes ago, Gaia said:

So if Adele fans went into a Taylor thread and said any component of her sales was disappointing, are you saying Taylor fans wouldn't reply? No one believes that. I'm sure not even you do.

 

It would depend on if they were being snotty or not, and if they were actually Adele fans 

4 minutes ago, Gaia said:

 

 

I don't care about the origin. At this point - both sides are using it as shade against the other and I'm sure you're not obtuse enough to fail to see that. Not even Swifties called her the music industry every damn change they got until this random as **** rivalry appeared out of nowhere

They actually did, even I got annoyed by it, so 

3 minutes ago, Headlock said:

I’m gonna give you one guess as to who was getting dragged when that happened 

 

I literally said just both sides aren’t innocent. You’re the one placing all the blame on one side, when you damn well know you have got some trolls in your camp, and I’m not talking about OTHs hiding behind Adele anymore.

Those fans who have been publishing troll threads only became aggressive and trollish after Swifties unleashed a flood of troll threads and posts in the 30 album thread. The lone “troll” that we even have prior to this week was even banned before the release  (after getting baited on by a troll thread made by a Swiftie, how surprising). 
 

even then, outside of the HDD threads, Adele fans/trolls dont even camp in the numerous Taylor threads about her chart records or music. Meanwhile just this past week, there have been numerous Adele threads of various nature that has been camped on by Swifties by the first page  

 

its kind of ridiculous to also blame us for the fight when actual Daydreamers never even had a problem with Taylor prior to 30 (until Swifties started coming for Adele). Obv there are trolls in the fanbase nowadays but the proximate cause of the whole fight clearly points to some insecure Swifties attacking and setting up Adele in the 30 era which turned into this war. 

Just now, Headlock said:

Exhibit A: the comment prompting yours, referring to Folklore’s opening week, in July of 2020

Exhibit B: your response

You’re welcome.

This is embarrassing  

Imagine starting a conspiracy theory about a deadly global pandemic for Stan wars  and then continuing to post as if nothing happened. Watch them pivot into defending this as if we don't have eyes to see what they posted 

4 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Exhibit A: the comment prompting yours, referring to Folklore’s opening week, in July of 2020

Exhibit B: your response

You’re welcome.

That's not saying the pandemic started in the summer. I'm screaming at the literal nonsense and lack of reading comprehension by Swifties. Maybe stop obsessing over Taylor Swift easter eggs and read some books  

Just now, Marianah Adkins said:

Those fans who have been publishing troll threads only became aggressive and trollish after Swifties unleashed a flood of troll threads and posts in the 30 album thread. The lone “troll” that we even have prior to this week was even banned before the release  (after getting baited on by a troll thread made by a Swiftie, how surprising). 
 

 

Lmao of you think anti-bitch was your bases’ only troll 

 

1 minute ago, Marianah Adkins said:

its kind of ridiculous to also blame us for the fight when actual Daydreamers never even had a problem with Taylor prior to 30 (until Swifties started coming for Adele). Obv there are trolls in the fanbase nowadays but the proximate cause of the whole fight clearly points to some insecure Swifties attacking and setting up Adele in the 30 era which turned into this war. 

When did you join ATRL again? Because the release of 25 tells a whoooooole different story to this 

are we gonna pretend 260k is good for Adele her standard?

it's a tank your honor

7 minutes ago, Marianah Adkins said:

Those fans who have been publishing troll threads only became aggressive and trollish after Swifties unleashed a flood of troll threads and posts in the 30 album thread. The lone “troll” that we even have prior to this week was even banned before the release  (after getting baited on by a troll thread made by a Swiftie, how surprising).

right? the excuses here are hillarious. like - you have to know swifties are the worst fandom even if you're one of them it's one thing to defend taylor but to defend the fan base... a choice!

when 30 was released, we had to deal with swifties trashing 30/adele on the base and on the album thread while we wouldn't speak a word in the redtv thread

 

why we have to be the ones acting kind when you guys wouldn't even leave us alone in our own space. you guys picked the one singer y'all shouldn't to compare to taylor so it's on y'all.

 

Edited December 1, 20214 yr by georgechxng

Taylor fans really out here twisting words any chance they get  

Honestly both are great holds

 

Taylor is the stream queen, Adele the queen of pÜr sales 

Not yet another discourse on Swifties 

OT: Great numbers. Red is doing shockingly good