1 hour ago, Suilen said:

My Showa era singer-songwriters idea was approved but I haven't had the time to finalize everything, and I'd like the rate regulars to participate in it too, not just j-pop fans, so I'm aiming to start it after the current wave of rates is (almost) done, probably the last week of August.

Can we aim for after Labor Day?

3 hours ago, Ace Reject said:

Can we aim for after Labor Day?

Sure, I'm in no rush.

@Ace Reject, @supaspaz, since we are talking about new ideas, how about mini-rates? They could have 20-30 songs max, have a much shorter submission period (2-3 weeks max) and people could go berserk with their theme (something like "Rate my top 20-30 favorite songs of all time", "ATRL, rate and decide: better album between X and Y"). They could help new ATRLers try the host's shoes and see if they can handle the whole process, all without the burden of longer reveals!

Maybe we could allow only 10 active mini-rates and 6-8 active rates per round? After all, having too many rates at once could be counterproductive to all of them, so a queue and mod approval would be still needed

Not opposed to the concept of a mini rate but also haven't seen any suggestions for it that pique any interest.

I kinda think the concept of ranking somebody's favorite songs is better suited for YTT or Games?

& with regards to the hosts talk, I've been trying to soft launch a co-hosting role for a bit. I love hosting but the workload is huge and I worry about me hogging too many ideas. I'd be more than happy to act as assistant to anybody who wants to launch a rate of their own.

59 minutes ago, Graves said:

Not opposed to the concept of a mini rate but also haven't seen any suggestions for it that pique any interest.

I kinda think the concept of ranking somebody's favorite songs is better suited for YTT or Games?

Some of the concepts for mini rates I've seen are:

• Songs made around a feeling/emotion (Revenge, Infidelity, etc)

• Songs with similar names (Sorry, I'm Sorry, Forgive Me, Apologize, etc)

• Songs made about certain Holidays (Halloween, Xmas, Mother's Day, etc)

• Producer based rates (William Orbit, Max Martin, Jack Antonoff, etc)

• EPs and Mixtapes with a shorter track listing.

On 2/2/2026 at 1:12 PM, MP2K said:

Multi Winners List Update 4/12

4 timer

• Like A Prayer – Madonna

• Fantasy - Mariah Carey

3 timers

• Call My Name – Cheryl

• Say it Right - Nelly Furtado

• Teenage Dream - Katy Perry

• Hung Up – Madonna

• Whenever, Wherever – Shakira

• Gimme More - Britney Spears

• Honey - Mariah Carey

• Countdown – Beyoncé

2 timers

• Can't Get You Out of My Head - Kylie Minogue

• Paper Planes - M.I.A.

• Fighter - Christina Aguilera

• The Scientist – Coldplay

• Believe – Cher

• Toxic - Britney Spears

• Candyman - Christina Aguilera

• Someone Like You – Adele

• 212 - Azealia Banks

• Say My Name - Destiny's Child

• We Belong Together - Mariah Carey

• Partition – Beyoncé

• Bleeding Love - Leona Lewis

• Ride – Lana Del Rey

• Losing You – Solange

• Rhythm Nation - Janet Jackson

• Are You That Somebody? – Aaliyah

• Take Care - Drake ft. Rihanna

• Creep – TLC

• What's My Name? - Rihanna ft. Drake

• Joga – Björk

• Behind These Hazel Eyes - Kelly Clarkson

• Bad Romance - Lady Gaga

• Cameo Lover – Kimbra

• Billie Jean - Michael Jackson

• Work It - Missy Elliot

• Oh No! - Marina & The Diamonds

• Begin Again – Taylor Swift

• DUI – Ciara

• When Doves Cry – Prince

• I'm With You – Avril Lavigne

• Into You – Ariana Grande

• Vision of Love – Mariah Carey

• Heartbreaker – Mariah Carey

• Good Vibrations – The Beach Boys

• White Noise – Disclosure

• Promise – Ciara

• Rolling in The Deep – Adele

• The Edge of Glory – Lady Gaga

• Talking Body – Tove Lo

• Lose My Breath – Destiny's Child

• Runaway – Kanye West

• So Into You – Tamia

• Come Clean – Hilary Duff

• Genie in a Bottle - Christina Aguilera

• If – Janet Jackson

• Potential Breakup Song – Aly & AJ

• How Will I Know – Whitney Houston

• Emotions – Mariah Carey

• Cosmic Love – Florence & The Machine

• Traveling – Utada

• Run Away With Me – Carly Rae Jepsen

• Cranes in The Sky - Solange

• Love Will Never Do (Without You) - Janet Jackson NEW

Honestly if we were ever to do an mini rate. Let's go big and rate all the songs that have won multiple rates in ATRL history. This ensures that the songs are ATRL faves and the suspense of finding which of the songs get another trophy on their (Kelly) mantle.

Edited August 13Aug 13 by Indie Go Mind

EP vs EP rate could be fun, and the multiple winners too.

6 hours ago, Florence Belch said:

@Ace Reject, @supaspaz, since we are talking about new ideas, how about mini-rates? They could have 20-30 songs max, have a much shorter submission period (2-3 weeks max) and people could go berserk with their theme (something like "Rate my top 20-30 favorite songs of all time", "ATRL, rate and decide: better album between X and Y"). They could help new ATRLers try the host's shoes and see if they can handle the whole process, all without the burden of longer reveals!

Maybe we could allow only 10 active mini-rates and 6-8 active rates per round? After all, having too many rates at once could be counterproductive to all of them, so a queue and mod approval would be still needed

4 hours ago, Graves said:

Not opposed to the concept of a mini rate but also haven't seen any suggestions for it that pique any interest.

I kinda think the concept of ranking somebody's favorite songs is better suited for YTT or Games?

4 hours ago, Graves said:

& with regards to the hosts talk, I've been trying to soft launch a co-hosting role for a bit. I love hosting but the workload is huge and I worry about me hogging too many ideas. I'd be more than happy to act as assistant to anybody who wants to launch a rate of their own.

LOVE the idea of mini rates. LOVE the fact that you espouse ideas! Love that they are PRACTICAL and PRODUCTIVE. Imagine that!

I think if we were lucky to have 6-8 rates and 2-3 mini rates going on at the same time, that would be blissful.

Oh and @Graves if I had a co-host... just imagine.mp3.

6 hours ago, Florence Belch said:

@Ace Reject, @supaspaz, since we are talking about new ideas, how about mini-rates? They could have 20-30 songs max, have a much shorter submission period (2-3 weeks max) and people could go berserk with their theme (something like "Rate my top 20-30 favorite songs of all time", "ATRL, rate and decide: better album between X and Y"). They could help new ATRLers try the host's shoes and see if they can handle the whole process, all without the burden of longer reveals!

Maybe we could allow only 10 active mini-rates and 6-8 active rates per round? After all, having too many rates at once could be counterproductive to all of them, so a queue and mod approval would be still needed

I am entirely in favor of shorter rates! Always have been. Bring back the days when we pitted three albums against each other or several artists with a handful of singles each. There’s no rule that dictates a rate needs to be long.

5 hours ago, Graves said:

& with regards to the hosts talk, I've been trying to soft launch a co-hosting role for a bit. I love hosting but the workload is huge and I worry about me hogging too many ideas. I'd be more than happy to act as assistant to anybody who wants to launch a rate of their own.

Co-hosting sounds like a blast, especially for rival-themed rates! We could have two hosts that drag and cackle at each other all the time, the kiis would be IMMENSE

40 minutes ago, Ace Reject said:

LOVE the idea of mini rates. LOVE the fact that you espouse ideas! Love that they are PRACTICAL and PRODUCTIVE. Imagine that!

And this is the exact kind of smarmy, mocking and pretentious attitude (you can tag me and @LesFleur btw!) that was called out, yet you wonder why it's the same regulars in here and no one else wants anything to do with you.

4 hours ago, Indie Go Mind said:

Producer based rates (Jack Antonoff)

First rate ever where the winning song has an overall average score of 1, this is the finest glucose for my OJAH'S cells

59 minutes ago, Ace Reject said:

I think if we were lucky to have 6-8 rates and 2-3 mini rates going on at the same time, that would be blissful.

52 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

I am entirely in favor of shorter rates! Always have been. Bring back the days when we pitted three albums against each other or several artists with a handful of singles each. There's no rule that dictates a rate needs to be long.

The potential this kind of format has is quite infinite if we think about it, especially if we consider the amount of themes (like @Indie Go Mind said) we could explore in each one of them. Besides, they could even work as a sort of "test" to bigger rates that belong more to a niche category too, non-English international music being the biggest example! Creativity can legit go berserk with them, thus encouraging more and more members to join in and/or host!

3-4 active mini rates along with 6-8 active rates sounds like a great comprimise for me, thank you both for the consideration btw!

6 hours ago, Indie Go Mind said:

Some of the concepts for mini rates I've seen are:

• Songs made around a feeling/emotion (Revenge, Infidelity, etc)

• Songs with similar names (Sorry, I'm Sorry, Forgive Me, Apologize, etc)

• Songs made about certain Holidays (Halloween, Xmas, Mother's Day, etc)

• Producer based rates (William Orbit, Max Martin, Jack Antonoff, etc)

• EPs and Mixtapes with a shorter track listing.

One I've long wanted is a rate with all the songs the girls have done AFTER they've become mothers. (Actual mothers, not the Stan kind.) Ties into your holiday theme!

And have we ever done an Original Christmas songs rate? I can't remember at this point...

2 minutes ago, Ace Reject said:

And have we ever done an Original Christmas songs rate? I can't remember at this point...

The averages would be crazy

The winner would end up with 5.20 or something

2 hours ago, Graffiti said:

And this is the exact kind of smarmy, mocking and pretentious attitude (you can tag me and @LesFleur btw!) that was called out, yet you wonder why it's the same regulars in here and no one else wants anything to do with you.

You get more flies with honey, babe.

@Angelshark expound a bit. What are the albums you're considering for your "Middle of the Road" series? Let's make sure they haven't been rated before. Also, who would you consider an "International Bjork?" I'm curious!

6 minutes ago, California said:

The averages would be crazy

The winner would end up with 5.20 or something

A 10 and a 9 stand before us. Let's be serious.mp3

Also, in full transparency (not everything has to go down in the DMs.mp3), @PenguinTim is cooking up something special! Do not want him to be accused of jumping the line when his rate starts!

2 hours ago, Graffiti said:

And this is the exact kind of smarmy, mocking and pretentious attitude (you can tag me and @LesFleur btw!) that was called out, yet you wonder why it's the same regulars in here and no one else wants anything to do with you.

8 minutes ago, Ace Reject said:

@Angelshark expound a bit. What are the albums you're considering for your "Middle of the Road" series? Let's make sure they haven't been rated before. Also, who would you consider an "International Bjork?" I'm curious!

Hey, sent you a message! I had three options in mind for the rate.

7 minutes ago, Ace Reject said:

A 10 and a 9 stand before us. Let's be serious.mp3

the only 10 I'm aware of

5 minutes ago, Angelshark said:

Hey, sent you a message! I had three options in mind for the rate.

Thank you! See, I'm not that scary. I'm thinking the second would be good for you to start after Labor Day - we'll add it to the queue. Workshopping is fun!

2 hours ago, Florence Belch said:

The potential this kind of format has is quite infinite if we think about it, especially if we consider the amount of themes (like @Indie Go Mind said) we could explore in each one of them. Besides, they could even work as a sort of "test" to bigger rates that belong more to a niche category too, non-English international music being the biggest example! Creativity can legit go berserk with them, thus encouraging more and more members to join in and/or host!

3-4 active mini rates along with 6-8 active rates sounds like a great comprimise for me, thank you both for the consideration btw!

Another idea - a rate of all the Video of the Year winners, based on the quality of the videos ONLY. Can't believe we've never done it! Open to anyone picking that idea up and running with it. (Could even throw in the BET VOTY winners as well...)

7 hours ago, Graves said:

EP vs EP rate could be fun, and the multiple winners too.

Like Charli and Rina battling it out for who really ruled 2017??!?! Count me IN.

@Raphy still want your idea beloved!