I feel bad for them tbh.

Reported. This didn't break the rules but I'm not ready to confront this reality.

Hope u don't take it personally.

Edited January 6Jan 6 by Sheep

Yes, as is "join a trade!"

Just now, EnigmaticAndroid said:

Yes, as is "join a trade!"

ehhh, you can still make a good living after trade school while if you're coder, you're pretty much screwed

5 minutes ago, EnigmaticAndroid said:

Yes, as is "join a trade!"

Trades are desperately needed worldwide

What the heck are the replies above. Engineers don't go a week unenployed. My cousin was laid off on December 24th and started his new position today, 11 days later

If I was fired or left my job, it would take me months to be in a similar position. I'd probably need to start from a non-management position all over again.

The bubble is soon to pop!

RAM is getting more and more expensive. We're gonna run out of water. Global warming is getting worse because of it. Greedy companies will soon realize it's not profitable, most of all, extremely harmful to completely rely on that.

For me avareging 350k in Annual recurring revenue in my Saas business, it sure didn't

40 minutes ago, swifthino said:

ehhh, you can still make a good living after trade school while if you're coder, you're pretty much screwed

And when everyone flocks to trades because office work has been automated that will put downward pressure on trade wages. Get a couple laughs in at the misfortune of others while you can because you'll be ****** soon enough too.

Is it still bad for new software eng grads?

Not really lol

There are different ways to code (hardware engineering languages like Verilog/VHDL, front end, back end, math focused coding like MATLAB)... Trust me i work as a data automation engineer and when i tell you even with AI people cant still do everything with it....

No I think it just more competitive and harder to find a job but it's not over. Plus there plenty of jobs that pay well where you don't have too be a software developer.

5 minutes ago, Happylittlepunk said:

No I think it just more competitive and harder to find a job but it's not over. Plus there plenty of jobs that pay well where you don't have too be a software developer.

Thats why its no longer worth doing. Competitive and harder. No thanks.

In America from what I hear is that companies hire from across the pond, usually from India, for cheap pay which is why it's so competitive for entry level college grads with no work experience.

I had 5 years of job experience in RStudio and Python code by the time I graduated college. 2 whole years couldn't get another job, now I'm in a completely different field.

Tbf, AI written code has a long way to go as it still doesn't get the proper context but as a developer, it's really great when assigned simple menial codes that I can't be arsed to write. Probably in like 2 to 3 years, it'll be better but for now, it's just as good as an entry-level junior developer.

3 hours ago, chiaroscuro said:

And when everyone flocks to trades because office work has been automated that will put downward pressure on trade wages. Get a couple laughs in at the misfortune of others while you can because you'll be ****** soon enough too.

You should see how IT people talk amongst themselves, they can be so smug and think they are the only profession that matters. God-complexes everywhere.

IT people are the biggest a**holes to work alongside with so deserved

i should know i work in IT too. lemme get a elderly caretaker license real quick

Edited January 6Jan 6 by popmusicisdead

2 hours ago, popmusicisdead said:

IT people are the biggest a**holes to work alongside with so deserved

i should know i work in IT too. lemme get a elderly caretaker license real quick

drag us

It is bad. Tech companies barely hire Junior functions nowadays like data engineer or data analyst. AI and automation can do all the minor repetitive tasks already.

If you're gonna go tech, go into a niche tech position in an industry that relies on tech - don't follow it into tech by going to a tech company. I have a position as a web developer and I am highly relied on with very high job security since I'm the only web developer at my company (I work at a company in an industry that is in a subset of finance). They panic if I take days off.

I say this as someone who's been programming professionally for a decade: you need to actually KNOW what you're talking about as well as what is actually applicable

It's one thing code, but it's another to use pattern recognition and also problem solving skills to optimize solutions for varying degrees: speed of solution vs. optimization of solution. It's usually the thing I notice people in interviews struggle with (myself included)