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Beyoncé

This is part 2 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

Focused on quality and the music videos MIA

They're obviously coming as a big project of some sort at some point that will make sense when we get them. I'm certain we will all be blown away like we always are.

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

, vinyls incomplete

It's apparent she added stuff later, after the pressing was complete - I'm never mad about more music, but I will say, I prefer the new album imaging as opposed to the BEYINCE aesthetic

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

, merch tacky,

I mean, that's par for most celebrities - I'm not super fond of most of it, either. I did like some of the Amazon Rennie drops, though

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

tour tickets dynamically priced

Yeah, I hate it, too, but that is capitalism for you... not exclusive to Beyonce

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

, most expensive stage seats worst view

I'll forever stay in the stage pits

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

Yvette wrote this I'm sure suburban

Nah, lol, but this rhetoric is weird. Like are we supposed to hate Beyonce here? Should we make a separate base or something?

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  • Lose My Breath
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    My mom passed away last week. I know I mentioned her wanting to hear a Beyonce rock album as she has anticipated it for years, and I'm so sad she didn't get to hear it before she passed (if that's wha

  • Lose My Breath
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    I really hope we get it soon. My mom loves Beyonce, and her favorite genre is rock, she is SO excited. She just got diagnosed with terminal cancer, and I really hope she gets to hear the album while

  • @ScorpiosGroove @Fleahive @Teezy always ranting slams Bey a lil too hard french awful takes hates Bey lowkey forgot to take meds downvote central doesn't contribute to discussion could be yv

1 hour ago, Lose My Breath said:

They're obviously coming as a big project of some sort at some point that will make sense when we get them. I'm certain we will all be blown away like we always are.

It's apparent she added stuff later, after the pressing was complete - I'm never mad about more music, but I will say, I prefer the new album imaging as opposed to the BEYINCE aesthetic

I mean, that's par for most celebrities - I'm not super fond of most of it, either. I did like some of the Amazon Rennie drops, though

Yeah, I hate it, too, but that is capitalism for you... not exclusive to Beyonce

I'll forever stay in the stage pits

Nah, lol, but this rhetoric is weird. Like are we supposed to hate Beyonce here? Should we make a separate base or something?

They are just hungry for new Bey music. This is a typical drought.

Does the hive consider Beyonce a popstar?

Whenever she gets ignored on great popstar lists, I assume it's because she is too broad to be put in that basic ass category.

5 hours ago, kimberly said:

this was so stark to me. I went to that tour and had floor seats. had a good time but was so appalled by the lack of quality in production and how terribly she made use of her gargantuan stage.

RWT had its issues with stage use, but was far more advanced. CCT really took it to the next level and solved all the production issues RWT had.

favé's dedication to keep learning, growing, bettering her craft is so admirable to me.

I disagree, CCT had the most production errors shes ever had on tour, also her most dangerous

Also the mess of the sweet honey scamming pits, yeah we need to stop saying this lie

43 minutes ago, QueenB said:

I disagree, CCT had the most production errors shes ever had on tour, also her most dangerous

Also the mess of the sweet honey scamming pits, yeah we need to stop saying this lie

that's your anecdotal experience I fear. and I'm not talking about the mishaps, which happen on every tour. the tilted car really got a lot of coverage and looked scary, but she was fully safely attached to the car — all of the safety measures were in place.

CCT is her first stadium tour where she's had a floor screen, plus she was using all of that + the car/horse and horseshoe to get closer to everyone at the venue, even for a brief moment. unlike RWT, there were no stairs and raised parts of the stage that blocked view. the interludes are her best tour visuals yet. she had light-up wristbands at every date. it was her longest show, I think, about 2h45m at each show.

personal biases aside, it's clearly her best-produced show. and no doubt most expensive.

4 hours ago, kimberly said:

that's your anecdotal experience I fear. and I'm not talking about the mishaps, which happen on every tour. the tilted car really got a lot of coverage and looked scary, but she was fully safely attached to the car — all of the safety measures were in place.

CCT is her first stadium tour where she's had a floor screen, plus she was using all of that + the car/horse and horseshoe to get closer to everyone at the venue, even for a brief moment. unlike RWT, there were no stairs and raised parts of the stage that blocked view. the interludes are her best tour visuals yet. she had light-up wristbands at every date. it was her longest show, I think, about 2h45m at each show.

personal biases aside, it's clearly her best-produced show. and no doubt most expensive.

The triangle cut in the middle made her unviewable to anyone who wasn't looking straight on at the stage, she literally brought out stairs that blocked view with her dancers at it.

If you can only enjoy the view at one raised angle then that's sloppier production from her other shows (and I've seen multiple dates/angles of all her tours, and only CC tour have I ever had complaints... and I had the most expensive ticket you could buy). Also it takes 2/3rds of the props/set from RWT, RWT is most definitely her most expensive tour with the highest production (especially with that rotating wardrobe).

I genuinely don't recall what effects her stage flooring had except for daughter and it took half the tour to even turn those on, yes the interludes are great and her best but that's about it. Just not seeing how a show that had to have rehearsals mid-tour directly after a show (no this hasnt happened in her recent shows) because of all the f ups and uses most of the production from the previous tour is somehow her best

RWT >>> Formation >>>>> CCT

suburban

9 minutes ago, QueenB said:

The triangle cut in the middle made her unviewable to anyone who wasn't looking straight on at the stage, she literally brought out stairs that blocked view with her dancers at it.

If you can only enjoy the view at one raised angle then that's sloppier production from her other shows (and I've seen multiple dates/angles of all her tours, and only CC tour have I ever had complaints... and I had the most expensive ticket you could buy).

this is a compromise you made with the tickets you bought! it's like going to a concert early to be at "barricade" but complaining you have a side view and are in front of speakers. I've never been too fond of these "BeyHive Pit" sections and thankfully they only contain about 1-2% of the attendees at each show. Club Renny/Ho-down have been the real deal.

12 minutes ago, QueenB said:

Also it takes 2/3rds of the props/set from RWT, RWT is most definitely her most expensive tour with the highest production (especially with that rotating wardrobe).

RWT's main expense really was having 3 different stages traveling with her. CCT cut down on that, so perhaps they're closer in cost. but CCT stage is most certainly more expensive, including a Tiffany gold bull, a B stage, more flying props, and a screen on the floor (that was used very effectively during many different sections of the show, including Riiverdance, Spaghettii, Tyrant, Freedom and more, but you don't see it as much from the floor).

23 minutes ago, QueenB said:

Just not seeing how a show that had to have rehearsals mid-tour

isn't this every single concert tour in history ever? am I missing something? pretty sure there was footage of her rehearsing RWT during the tour, specifically remembering a clip of her stand-in testing the Reneigh she flew on. they run through the show every time they set up at a new venue, at the very least. it's quite normal?

overall, CCT had better production and served the crowd so much better. I'm sorry your experience didn't reflect that.

Can I add though, I do get sad that her music isn't playlisted more, or that her streams aren't stronger, but it's because I want other people to experience her music the way I do I guess, and it deserves to be wildly successful.

During All Nights little viral run, I WISH it was playlisted and pushed, more people need to hear it, and I'd love there to be a campaign for better music, but it isn't happening sadly.

8 hours ago, kimberly said:

that's your anecdotal experience I fear. and I'm not talking about the mishaps, which happen on every tour. the tilted car really got a lot of coverage and looked scary, but she was fully safely attached to the car — all of the safety measures were in place.

CCT is her first stadium tour where she's had a floor screen, plus she was using all of that + the car/horse and horseshoe to get closer to everyone at the venue, even for a brief moment. unlike RWT, there were no stairs and raised parts of the stage that blocked view. the interludes are her best tour visuals yet. she had light-up wristbands at every date. it was her longest show, I think, about 2h45m at each show.

personal biases aside, it's clearly her best-produced show. and no doubt most expensive.

yup, the best stage so far and the best experience for audience.

Y'all are delusional if you think CCT wasn't the best production wise. She was even more interactive and the b stage gave the audience a better close up without having to buy pit tickets…

4 hours ago, Lose My Breath said:

Can I add though, I do get sad that her music isn't playlisted more, or that her streams aren't stronger, but it's because I want other people to experience her music the way I do I guess, and it deserves to be wildly successful.

During All Nights little viral run, I WISH it was playlisted and pushed, more people need to hear it, and I'd love there to be a campaign for better music, but it isn't happening sadly.

The truly crazy/sad part is that when an older Bey song gets "viral", we refer to 500k daily streams. When an older Rihanna song goea viral, it reaches 1.5mio streams minimum.

Thats a discrepancy that shouldnt be the case in terms of relevance/prominence.

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4 hours ago, Lose My Breath said:

Can I add though, I do get sad that her music isn't playlisted more, or that her streams aren't stronger, but it's because I want other people to experience her music the way I do I guess, and it deserves to be wildly successful.

During All Nights little viral run, I WISH it was playlisted and pushed, more people need to hear it, and I'd love there to be a campaign for better music, but it isn't happening sadly.

I feel like time will always be on her side regardless. Her streams are only halfway decent bc she practically abandoned radio and resented Spotify all through the 2010s and didn't milk her singles/eras through the two acts (because she can afford to do so). She still has some of the biggest R&B/Rhythmic hits as a female during the 2010s, but people overlook that and only compare those streams to pop eras that were heavily pushed on radio on this forum/twitter. The fact that songs like All Night and Haunted have both been out-streaming the singles off their respective albums shows that people are gradually and surely digesting her discography beyond the singles tho. I also see the trilogy wrapping itself up in a way that will revive Renaissance and Cowboy Carter and encourage more people to look into her back catalog as well. We will just have to wait and see how Act 3 is rolled out or if she intends on doing an eras type of tour later down the line. She's the queen of longevity after all.

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i feel like once this trilogy ends, random songs are going to resurface and have viral moments. this happens a lot with modern r&b tracks that were slept on, that fans got the first time. we seen it happen with the weeknd, summer walker, crack brown, janet, doja, etc.

i wouldnt be surprised if we're in the B10 era and no angel, riiverdance, or i miss you become a top 10 hit.

56 minutes ago, Devin said:

i feel like once this trilogy ends, random songs are going to resurface and have viral moments. this happens a lot with modern r&b tracks that were slept on, that fans got the first time. we seen it happen with the weeknd, summer walker, crack brown, janet, doja, etc.

i wouldnt be surprised if we're in the B10 era and no angel, riiverdance, or i miss you become a top 10 hit.

Riiverdance will never do anything anywhere sweetie suburban

Potential hits: Kitty Kat, Schoolin Life, Alien Superstar, Heated, Tyrant/Bodyguard

6 minutes ago, futuresuperstar2023 said:

Bey is now listed as a billionaire by forbes.

Cecred EASILY raised her profile. Her first TRUE profitable endeavour

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1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Potential hits: Kitty Kat

not that skip.

clack

So jarring to see the base thread of certain "lady" labeled with "Act II"

1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Potential hits: Kitty Kat, Schoolin Life, Alien Superstar, Heated, Tyrant/Bodyguard

I'm sure Me, Myself and I will go viral in the future. Anecdotally, people love this song.

52 minutes ago, Devin said:

not that skip.

clack

KittyKat, my dear, sounds fresher today than it did in 2006-7. Its perfectly produced, lush AND has the perfect length with just under 4min. And i will stand by that!

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2 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

KittyKat, my dear, sounds fresher today than it did in 2006-7. Its perfectly produced, lush AND has the perfect length with just under 4min. And i will stand by that!

lush? the chorus & bridge r the only good parts.

suburban

"More audience interaction"

Im now convinced you guys have been to no beyonce concerts prior to renaissance. Formation tour she spends multiple songs grabbing peoples hands and kneeled right next to them. Mrs Carter Show the entire second stage she actually does a sing along with you for like 4 songs

Her best production was probably Revel if we are being honest.

suburban

3 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Cecred EASILY raised her profile. Her first TRUE profitable endeavour

Deservedly so. I got the shampoo for Christmas, and my hair is so moisturised. Best shampoo I've ever used!

5 hours ago, BGKC said:

We will just have to wait and see how Act 3 is rolled out

  • single(s) in april with no accompanying music video and pulled from radio after a month if it does well, completely ignored and left to fend for itself if it doesn't

  • a preorder that goes live a couple weeks too late

  • messy vinyl variants being announced that either never ship or aren't delivered as advertised

  • 1 big appearance, aka the MET, where she'll arrive late and hide as much from paparazzi as possible. we'll get a random insta collage with blue on a fake red carpet that she put up in her garage. we won't see her before nor after that.

  • album release week; some posters, a bunch of billboards and a completely useless website à la beenroc.com go live

  • an iii love you deep deep deep 🎸 post to talk about some obscure dead relative who was allegedly a big rock fan on album release day

  • complete silence until the next summer when she'll do a quick tour

there's your rollout suburban

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