1 minute ago, Ubermensch said:

then getting banned after he tried to mass report me for days afterward anyway.

Who told you that? 

1 minute ago, Pluto6 said:

Who told you that? 

It was in the SM fan group chat. 

Telling people that live in Korea saying that this is a bad thing for Karina  it's a nothing scandal while you don't live in Korea yourself. It's either privilege or parasocial relationships with your idol. Either way you guys defending this sound dumb.

23 hours ago, Windy Day said:

i agree!!!! she has every right to respond, directly or indirectly to those horrible stuff said about her, and the fact that it was brought up during yesterday's political debate by one of the incel candidates on national TV 

 

what i do NOT think is a good thing is indirectly showing support to a party that  infamously is against women, sexual minorities and foreigners and additionally tried to take control of the field she's a worker in

 

10 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

insensitive behavior said the person who 24 hours ago said that they don't care about public sexual threats against Karina over wearing a red jacket(which she apologized for). If you want users to interact with you a certain way, you need to engage a certain way.

@Ryan is false defamation allowed on ATRL? or do the other members of this thread have to constantly endure that particular person's weaponization of serious issues everytime they don't agree with one of us?

5 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

 

@Ryan is false defamation allowed on ATRL? or do the other members of this thread have to constantly endure that particular person's weaponization of serious issues everytime they don't agree with one of us?

sigh. at least edit the posts before you're going to lie about them like some others have.

23 hours ago, Windy Day said:

not the right wing propaganda being inside your brain like a parasite 

i couldn't care less about lee's private life.

 

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

 

11 hours ago, Ubermensch said:

It was in the SM fan group chat. 

It's true that I got banned for reporting you, because you kept bringing up Gaga in the K-pop thread unrelated to compare her to SKZ  

 

I saw this post of yours a week ago, telling someone else the reason why I got banned, and I was planning to bring up to the mods:

 

On 5/7/2025 at 8:24 PM, Ubermensch said:

Lady Gaga has a song in korean, has kicked off tours in korea, and has promoted on music shows before but his oomf was confirmed to be trying to abuse the report feature for the nth time in this thread, because I posted a tweet about GD and the pinks, which also happened to mention her. 

But the question is, how do you know this, especially when I have never told anyone about this?

 

 

How do you know the reason I got banned for 2 weeks unfairly? How do you know this information?

 

 

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by Pluto6

sigh x2

 

I didn't even publicly circle jerk about the ban when it happened like you did when the bad faith spam reports worked last time.

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

5 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

sigh. at least edit the posts before you're going to lie about them like some others have.

 

thanks for proving that you know NOTHING about the context because the Lee in question never said anything about Karina!! 

 

so once again, @Ryan is false defamation allowed on ATRL or should @Ubermensch apologize for accusing me of something i never said due to his serious lack of understanding of the situation?

Since we're going there: @Ryan please take note of which 2 users are immediately at the scene of the crime when somebody wants to lie about me, for the 100th time. It only gets weirder.

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

Just now, Windy Day said:

thanks for proving that you know NOTHING about the context because the Lee in question never said anything about Karina!! 

 

It was in response to a comment about his son.

Just now, Ubermensch said:

It was in response to a comment about his son.

his son = the candidate and his policies which i said in the same breath included laws to severely punish sex crimes and offer protection to victims?

 

have you voted for trump because of biden's son?

5 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

sigh x2

 

I didn't even publicly circle jerk about the ban when it happened like you did when the bad faith spam reports worked last time.

I never said anything about the ban in here though? I told in the discord about the ban, but I never specified I got banned becuase I reported your post about Gaga or anything, which is the thing. Where did you get this information?

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by Pluto6

6 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

I never said anything about the ban in here though? I told in the discord about the ban, but I never specified I got banned becuase I reported a post about Gaga, which is the thing. How do you know that?

When I got an "off topic warning" for posting a tweet about the top selling albums of the year where 4 of the 8 spots were kpop and one of them was the album I changed my username to, I smelled bs and raised the issue to get the fake WPs taken away, at which point you disappeared for two weeks after the warning was removed. The ATRL SM group chat comment was a joke, that group chat doesn't exist and was only first brought up as a joke to mock the very real group chat you're in, as I have told you several times.

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

4 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

Since we're going there: @Ryan please take note of which 2 users are immediately at the scene of the crime when somebody wants to lie about me, for the 100th time.

in my case i already told you MULTIPLE times today to stop your personal attacks wether it's on me or the "multiple users" you talked about. i don't know who you think you are to constantly throw personal shade at people in this thread

 

i already mentioned that you said things to other users that offended me in the past but i kept quiet because i didn't want to make things bigger or to have a bad relationship with you

 

you already sent a personal attack my way yesterday and i responded jokingly and you doubled down with the attacks.

 

the least you could do is apologize when you're clearly in the wrong, but i guess not everyone as the emotional intelligence WINDY DAY possesses 😚

blackpink and aespo need to save summer

 

loved aseul though, TILT is crack

7 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

Since we're going there: @Ryan please take note of which 2 users are immediately at the scene of the crime when somebody wants to lie about me, for the 100th time. It only gets weirder.

Stop playing the victim it doesn't suit you. If you could just admit your fav isn't handling this situation in the best way and not insult users personally constantly, maybe you wouldn't keep finding yourself in this situation constantly. But since you constantly want to play wannabe mod in this thread and keep insulting people who have the slightest criticism of your fav here we are once again.

 

If Karina made that post on insta the apology should be on insta too and it shouldn't just be an apology if she doesn't agree with the side she seemed to support. She should be publicly denouncing them.

4 hours ago, Windy Day said:

i wouldn't surprised if they tried to do something. but then again mutuals of mine and irl friends with big accounts in korea tweeted about it and i know they're not being paid by hybe lol

 

my school's community is full of posts about karina since yesterday and you can only access it by authentication with an ID card AND student card

I'm not doubting that it's a hot topic. My comment was more about the fact that as soon as Bang PD's article about committing fraud and facing life in prison came out, suddenly a bunch of abandoned Twitter accounts reactivated at the same time and started posting updates. One account with 0 followers just got 2.5M views on a Tweet in less than 3 hours without even using a hashtag. It's very clear that there is an active smear campaign going on.

4 hours ago, lgaga1fan said:

This is no tea but this next aespa single kinda needs to flop into oblivion or at least underperform like Girls did so that they can get back to being cunty on stage again and putting effort into their performance craft. The jump in qualitea from Girls -> Spicy in regards to performance (very obviously sparked by the backlash and them wanting to come back mad as hell) was massive. Theyre looking sluggish, lazy, and lip-synching too much for me to take them serious rn. 

They're tired. If anything, what we really need is another SM act to take off. SM always makes their biggest groups work overtime because they bundle acts (meaning they'll only book a top act if that venue will also book a smaller act). It happened with SNSD, too - they do relentless schedules because it gets their mid-tier artists booked.

39 minutes ago, newaespa said:

looks like we have a few HYBE Stans being exposed these few days

 

I've never seen a more obvious attempt to defame an artist ever.

 

Karina is an outspoken feminist wearing Vaquera - a New York brand ran by a queer liberal. They are vocal about BLM and LGBTQIA support. Everything that shirt stands for is the exact opposite of what the PPP supports.
 

I wonder if it was a sponsored ad for Vaquera clothing that went horribly wrong. They were old pics of Karina, too, seeing as she didn't have her extensions in.

1 hour ago, Ubermensch said:

 

Ok I don't know who these ladies are (I don't know how to keep up with K-Pop),

and this is a BOP! Saved to my playlist. Thanks!

@UbermenschAnd let's get one thing clear: just because I gave you the benefit of the doubt and let your very insensitive comments from that day slide doesn't mean I don't find you weird for those comments or looking at you sideways. 

 

So don't try to gaslight @Windy Day, cause your comment towards me were indeed problematic and xenophobic. Like don't try to downplay it.

 

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by Pluto6

1 minute ago, Windy Day said:

in my case i already told you MULTIPLE times today to stop your personal attacks wether it's on me or the "multiple users" you talked about. i don't know who you think you are to constantly throw personal shade at people in this thread

 

If you're going to continue to perpetuate lies, then you're going to be responded to like somebody who is knowingly posting lies. You started with the personal attack at me so I really don't care.

 

2 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

i already mentioned that you said things to other users that offended me in the past but i kept quiet because i didn't want to make things bigger or to have a bad relationship with you

 

You mean like the slurs nobody ever accused me of using before you did?

 

2 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

you already sent a personal attack my way yesterday and i responded jokingly and you doubled down with the attacks.

 

After you personally attacked e

 

3 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

the least you could do is apologize when you're clearly in the wrong

It got to this point because you failed to do exactly that like 40 times. You're the one who resorted to personal attacks and then lying.

3 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

@UbermenschAnd let's get one thing clear: just because I gave you the benefit of the doubt and let your very insensitive comments from that day slidedoesn't mean I don't find you weird for those comments and looking at you sideways. 

 

So don't try to gaslight @Windy Day cause your comment towards me were indeed problematic and xenophobic. Like don't try to downplay it.

I had no clue where you're from and you're crying about me using the word Jihad, which isn't categorized as a slur or as hate speech by ANY organization on Earth, to a user whom I knew nothing about the personal background of. Give it up stop trying to reheat the fake racism accusations I didn't push hard for a ban when you randomly brought this back up a month ago, had your not just a joke group chat dogpile on me, then called me a horrible person but I will now since the comment in question describing an obsessive fanwar as a jihad was literally over a year ago and keeps getting brought up because you can't stop running your untruthful mouth.

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

Karina obviously made that post on purpose, SM probably made her pull it and now she's apologizing. 
 

It's very much like the Nicole Scherzinger story. No one will care about this in a week, but we know the apology is phony and she's probably a ring wing conservative. 

6 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

When I got an "off topic warning" for posting a tweet about the top selling albums of the year where 4 of the 8 spots were kpop and one of them was the album I changed my username to, I smelled bs and raised the issue to get the fake WPs taken away, at which point you disappeared for two weeks. 

so you're basically saying that the mods are apparently biased, where you can take your WPs away whenever you fell like it, while I unfairly get banned for 2 weeks for something I didn't do such as frequent reporting?

3 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

so you're basically saying that the mods are apparently biased, where you can take your WPs away whenever you fell like it, while I unfairly get banned for 2 weeks for something I didn't do such as frequent reporting?

A mod took away a warning point that should not have been there. A user with a years long vendetta against me who keeps trying to get me banned then disappeared. I don't know what you want from me or from anybody else.

 

Considering every other conflict I've had with you involved you attacking me for "running to @Ryan" after which point it would be explained to you that we're supposed to do that instead of report posts in the k-pop base, I'm not sure why you think this is some secret private information. I get bogus WPs after our exchanges, and after I raised it as an issue, KTRL was peaceful for a wonderful 2 weeks. It would have been hard not to notice.

Edited May 29, 20251 yr by Ubermensch