It's always funny to see people saying 'the US is not interested in her' as if she hasn't proven already the demand is there for selling out arenas 

So is Dua the biggest star of our lifetime because of massive payola and success stans or is she a faceless flop with no chance of being a star because I keep hearing conflicting narratives in this thread

 

To be honest the song is doing better than I expected WW and exactly what I expected in the US. All that can really smash in the US atm are Taylor songs, country songs or TikTok songs. Maybe Houdini will start smashing later but if it doesn’t, it’s already shaping up to be a smash WW which is great. 

Houdini might not be generating a lot of streams but at least it’s generating a lot of thinkpieces in here

37 minutes ago, houdini said:

Wasnt Work a smash out the gate for Rihanna? I thought it debuted at #1 and stayed there for like 9 weeks

No  People even mocked her for the top 10 debut and because the song was “bad.”

Maybe the US just isn't interested in metaphors?

i just hope the album cover wont have that same cursive Arial fond on

it 

 

 

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The way Rih and Abel are my other two faves and that’s all Dua has been compared to in this thread

7 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

The way Rih and Abel are my other two faves and that’s all Dua has been compared to in this thread

The price of being hitmakers I fear 

10 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said:

It's always funny to see people saying 'the US is not interested in her' as if she hasn't proven already the demand is there for selling out arenas 

acc to them. Kim Petras has more interest for the gp bc she has a Top 3 debut... even if she can't fill a 5K venue.  

btw, I can't stop thinking on the bridge.  it's in my mind 24/7... I can't 

9 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

The way Rih and Abel are my other two faves and that’s all Dua has been compared to in this thread

It's funny how people who like Dua have the same taste for the same artists. Rih and Abel are some of my fave artists. 

Now there goes an ancient quote full of wisdom:

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Con paciencia y saliva, el elefante se la metió a la hormiga

So just be like the elephant, be patient. Rise Houdini, this is the beggining 

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40 minutes ago, JVSPER said:

After watching those interviews where she's saying that the album's theme is about being single and having fun and that the songs are in chronological order and split up in different chapters I am so confused. Chaos Theory/Butterfly Effect sounds so nice but I don't see the connection between them (yet). Give us the album announcement asap 

So Anwar to Romain?

1 hour ago, JVSPER said:

After watching those interviews where she's saying that the album's theme is about being single and having fun and that the songs are in chronological order and split up in different chapters I am so confused. Chaos Theory/Butterfly Effect sounds so nice but I don't see the connection between them (yet). Give us the album announcement asap 

 I am new to Dua news Chaos Theory and Butterfly effect are song titles for the upcoming album? And also Training Season? Any other songs that have been mentioned? 

Just now, SayIt said:

 I am new to Dua news Chaos Theory and Butterfly effect are song titles for the upcoming album? And also Training Season? Any other songs that have been mentioned? 

Welcome to the club No, they're just speculated album titles since 2 years or something I think  TS could be real (?)

These people trying to make Dua look like she’s not successful are just clowns. Like who even listens to them. 
 

i’d rather have a popstar like Dua that organically rises on charts in months and even if one of her singles doesn’t, she always has a trick up her sleeve than have a popstar that debuts #1 but then free-falls and fails to make any impact whatsoever. 
 

also you’re complaining she can get good radio deals and a cover on spotify… well that’s what you get when you have a demand and you’re popular in the industry. Your image is effectively a good business opportunity and there’s nothing wrong with that, but it also does not guarantee success so stop with that payola nonsense. good night! 

1 hour ago, Vermouth said:

So Anwar to Romain?

Love Agains older sis is COMING  

I took a little break from the song yesterday and started listening again today and omg....this is genuinely one of her best songs.

 

I honestly think an album full of songs with production like this will make me shelf Future Nostalgia.

1 hour ago, Iris said:

Maybe the US just isn't interested in metaphors?

Don't tell Alexandra Burke (about the elephant in the room)

This… came and went 

 

Waiting for Training Season or what the original lead is called, sounded a lot more promising tbh 

1 hour ago, Cain said:

Houdini might not be generating a lot of streams but at least it’s generating a lot of thinkpieces in here

The essays are sending me 

 

All of this just to prove a point. Y'all are so tired...

41 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Love Agains older sis is COMING  

Well she did mention in some interview months ago that the album direction had taken a total turn part way through the process, so maybe the arrival of a certain French film director might’ve moved it on from a chronological musical reportage of singledom ( is that word??). 

 

Or could be drawing utterly fantastical conclusions from gossamer thin evidence.😁

 

DL 4 to be “Albanian Love Songs”?😂

17 minutes ago, Vermouth said:

Well she did mention in some interview months ago that the album direction had taken a total turn part way through the process, so maybe the arrival of a certain French film director might’ve moved it on from a chronological musical reportage of singledom ( is that word??). 

 

Or could be drawing utterly fantastical conclusions from gossamer thin evidence.😁

 

DL 4 to be “Albanian Love Songs”?😂

I also expect her to serve some Justified My Love/Erotica realness when singing about Romains big d

The suffering and seething from ODHs all over ATRL rn 

Never stop stomping on them Mother Duaresa 

2 hours ago, BrokenMachine said:

It's always funny to see people saying 'the US is not interested in her' as if she hasn't proven already the demand is there for selling out arenas 

It's just the time of year. Most artists usually don't release in the 4th quarter. This year it felt like a lot of artists did and I have no idea. I was thinking maybe it's because of the strike. Maybe labels were waiting for the strikes to end so their artists could perform on SNL and other talks shows  but usually only someone like Adele can release a single this time of year and do great because us Americans like to listen to Holiday music literally the day after Halloween ends until January. 

 

Dua's going to be fine though and the single is great.

Too soon to write Houdini off yall  Wait until like mid February. 

 

That said, she is to blame for not making this more eventful tbh. It's her comeback lead single to launch a new era. I get she may want to save the promo for when the song is peaking but again, fans need to associate the music to performances and visuals mentally. It's a part of the experience for the type of fan base she has actively cultivated aka unapologetically pop leaning gays and girls. I get the feeling she may be a little burnt out....and I do hope she enjoys the holidays and takes it easy but if she's not going to really GIVE us things to devour that are associated to the lead single then she better go all out once holiday season is done.