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How are these situations in anyway comparable? Any evidence or are you just sounding off?

Well, plausible for sure but I'm still not convinced. I believe Callum is doing a couple of films in the US over the next few months which is why, I believe, they are effectively living for that time in the US (lots of photo dumps from New York recently). Now that doesn't stop her hopping around the planet of course for forays and you could argue it's great for a US launch of course but I just can't feel it in my bones that she wouldn't be back in London to do the start of DL4.

I'll keep saying this till I'm blue in the face but - she's curating the London literary festival which runs October 20th to November 1st. This is a known fact. Why would they launch DL4 then?

Ok enough of being polite. The English is so appalling it doesn't make sense. And just for clarity I'm a native speaker. I think ( stress think, because it's hard to work out), you were dissing Canada?

Indeed. But I just cannot fathom out the meaning from what was written. Sorry 🤷‍♂️

She has nearly 59 billion views/listens on Spotify and YouTube plus whatever on deezer etc etc. last tour grossed about $200m Not MPG worthy? Serious question.

Sorry, I'm completely confused what you are trying to say here🤷‍♂️

Let's hope not. Because these days you get about two weeks and then it's wall to wall reindeers and Christmas songs😱

She is curating the London literary festival which runs second half of October into the start of November , so I don't see how that works to be honest.

How?

I just wrote a reply in the thread about "is she an MPG?" to say "yes but her life is diversifying" and this turns up 20 mins later 😁 💅.

Of course she is. "Pandemic fad" is a particularly nuts take on here given DL1 from 2017 has insane billions of streams ( 13bn/14bn? Can't be bothered to look it up but it's huge). Even DL 3 will have two billion steamers within a few weeks too and her last tour grossed about $200 million. That said, she's so diversified these days given her huge partnership/modelling contracts and her seriousness with the literary interviews and book club ( note to anyone expecting DL 4 soon she's actually curating the London literary festival, (all rather high brow) at the end of October/start of November so how's that going to work with a DL4 launch? - spoiler: it doesn't), that you can't help feeling she's pretty close to morphing into a brand/thing of her own making (lifestyle aspirations?) beyond singing because she is blessed with lots of abilities and opportunities. And of course now she's married, so there's Callum's life and work to be taken into account too. All of which means she has the ability, if she so desires, to step off the album/tour/studio/album/tour/studio grind because she's doesn't need the money, and I suspect she's intellectually curious about life. Edit: and within minutes of writing this she pops up on the cover of the latest edition of Vogue Italia…. …. Just sayin'.

To be fair Beethoven does have a whole continental anthem thing going on in Europe. Not bad considering he's both deaf and dead.

Nah that's Elgar. He's a bit of an enigma.

Latest update: Infantino had a meeting in Morocco with some FIFA officials present, issued a statement essentially saying was sorry about the part sell off issues. UEFA responded today with their own statement saying this didn't address their issues enough, boycott of FIFA events still stands, and they reiterated no confidence in Infantino. Essentially looking like Infantino walks away or UEFA does. Don't think he can survive in his job, personally. Bigger question is what will UEFA demand by the way of reformed governance going forwards?