4 minutes ago, Zack said:

I was reviewing some old 2nd gen performances and I got a SHOCK.

 

The way everyone was out there singing with raw LIVE vocals and low backtracks while doing full choreo, like even the groups who traditionally weren't known for their singing were also doing it too.

 

The current gens have fallen down very far in this particular aspect. Wow.

 

 

 

I think it’s more surprising when groups like twice , IVE, lsfm lipped because their songs aren’t that hard to sing at all. 

BRING BACK DALSHABET

 

 

 

 

26 minutes ago, Kummercell said:

he was kinda cute tbh he was tall and ginger

I should've approached him like:

 

Not ginger and tall! Praying you see him again so y'all can give yourselves a good

 

 

Is there a reason why SM music videos are always just 90% dancing? Maybe their artists would get more views if they found a better editor

4 minutes ago, elevate said:

Not ginger and tall! Praying you see him again so y'all can give yourselves a good

 

 

me doing detective work so i can find out who he is

 

3 minutes ago, Zack said:

I was reviewing some old 2nd gen performances and I got a SHOCK.

 

The way everyone was out there singing with raw LIVE vocals and low backtracks while doing full choreo, like even the groups who traditionally weren't known for their singing were also doing it too.

 

The current gens have fallen down very far in this particular aspect. Wow.

 

 

 

exactly, that's why I always say 2nd gen is superior

 

they didn't have the same budget as new groups, and weren't as popular (globally) but they always worked their asses off & sang live even if some of them couldn't hold a note at least they tried  + they had great stage presence and were so funny & unhinged on variety shows. unfortunately we'll never see that again because companies now like to control every little thing about their idols to the point where they seem like robots sometimss :(

1 minute ago, Luckitty said:

exactly, that's why I always say 2nd gen is superior

 

they didn't have the same budget as new groups, and weren't as popular (globally) but they always worked their asses off & sang live even if some of them couldn't hold a note at least they tried  + they had great stage presence and were so funny & unhinged on variety shows. unfortunately we'll never see that again because companies now like to control every little thing about their idols to the point where they seem like robots sometimss :(

I think it’s because back then companies were able to pick the best of the best. Nowadays not everyone wants to be idol anymore, they can just be social media influencer or go on reality shows, or just go into acting. 

the way they sang this entire performance live and you can hear all the mistakes they make  mind you back then (1st gen) companies didn't even train idols they just scouted pretty girls and gave them mics and they sang live, the new idols who train for a decade have no excuse

 

 

1 minute ago, gugunikko said:

I think it’s because back then companies were able to pick the best of the best. Nowadays not everyone wants to be idol anymore, they can just be social media influencer or go on reality shows, or just go into acting. 

idk i feel like there's definitely a lot more trainees nowadays than during the 2nd gen since kpop is much more popular right now

 

there are a lot of talented 3rd and 4th gen idols who can sing live but they don't for some reason, probably because of their companies.
 

also i feel like back then companies weren't afraid of debuting talented artists who are a little ugly (for the korean beauty standards ) but now being pretty is way more important

 

 

Come thru, Nicole

14 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

the way they sang this entire performance live and you can hear all the mistakes they make  mind you back then (1st gen) companies didn't even train idols they just scouted pretty girls and gave them mics and they sang live, the new idols who train for a decade have no excuse

 

 

1st gen is notorious for lipsyncing though  Lee Hyori talked about it and she's hilarious

 

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Lee Hyori then confessed another anecdote. She said, “Back then, I didn’t have any attachment (to my work). During one interview, the interviewer asked us, ‘What kind of preparations do you guys do before heading stage?’ Joo Hyun answered that she warms up her voice, and I said, ‘I look at the mirror. It’s all lip-sync anyway.’”

 

Idk what was the point of this, JYPIG/Republic should have used that money for Spotify TTH placement instead but whatever I guess

 

Edited March 10, 20233 yr by Witnessed ET

2 hours ago, MusicFan98 said:

 

@xrosup I love this bop so much.

 

 

Biiiiitch, I've been replaying their mini a lot the last couple of days, specially this hyperpop slay  Allen's opening lines alone get me HYPED and feeling cunty Did you listen to the rest of the EP?

10 minutes ago, Sept said:

1st gen is notorious for lipsyncing though  Lee Hyori talked about it and she's hilarious

 

 

jewelry sang live most of the time, lee hyori's forgotten group cant relate 

perched for jimmy fallon

 

i really hope the US promo pays off!

 

not Fearless jp version outselling the Korean one

I almost could not recognize nayeon  I had to zoom in. So the one in front are the ones answering the questions? 

 

So after all it seems Helen is still in SM  

 

 

 

 

49 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

Idk what was the point of this, JYPIG/Republic should have used that money for Spotify TTH placement instead but whatever I guess

 

I just walked by the ESB like an hour ago and did not see these colors. They could’ve paid for more than a couple minutes 

21 minutes ago, dangerlady said:

I almost could not recognize nayeon  I had to zoom in. So the one in front are the ones answering the questions? 

 

must be in korean then cuz no way jeongyeon is taking the mic otherwise

54 minutes ago, xrosup said:

Biiiiitch, I've been replaying their mini a lot the last couple of days, specially this hyperpop slay  Allen's opening lines alone get me HYPED and feeling cunty Did you listen to the rest of the EP?

Kinda did on release day but ut didn't click for me as their last one, however, when you posted about this track I revisited it and it hit me hard there's a ballad in the mini though, not here for it

1 minute ago, MusicFan98 said:

Kinda did on release day but ut didn't click for me as their last one, however, when you posted about this track I revisited it and it hit me hard there's a ballad in the mini though, not here for it

Oh yeah I skip the ballad when I listen to the album, but even then it's not offensively bad like every other ballad from other groups. I'm kinda stanning them this era, the music is so so so good and I'm revisiting their old music now too and they have a solid 20 good songs as of now  

41 minutes ago, dangerlady said:

I almost could not recognize nayeon  I had to zoom in. So the one in front are the ones answering the questions? 

 

Judging by Jeongyeon’s face, it’s probably in Korean, which means there is a translator and there will be awkward silence every now and then 

 

anyway I’m really happy how they’ve gained such a big audience in the US despite not speaking a word of English and not doing promotions up until 2019 

 

27 minutes ago, Butters said:

I just walked by the ESB like an hour ago and did not see these colors. They could’ve paid for more than a couple minutes 

good I hope they haven’t wasted too much money in the Empire State Building and used it for more lucrative promo instead 

2 hours ago, fauxtography said:

its crazy if you go back 7-10 years you had kpop groups experimenting, crossing boundaries, and singing about their moist pussays.

 

it just doesn't happen anymore.

 

Like, who's the 3/4 gen Hyuna? CHUNGHA?

 

G-idle is kinda the first group toeing the line tho with NXDE, but even that was like the kidz bop version of kpop a decade ago

We talk about changes between gens a lot in here on a superficial level but it's actually baffling how k-pop has gotten MORE conservative over the past 20 years instead of less. And like, significantly, too. It's so, so weird  I think it has something to do with internationalization and Twitter/TikTok teen puritanical culture combined with the rising importance of branding and sponsorships or something but I'm not prepared to write that essay.

 

Also, if we're on the subject of GaIn, I still think Bloom is one of the best and most unique k-pop songs ever made. Incredible, amazing, showstopping, etc.