3 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Yeah that was my point. She is Slowly gaining on her. If you surpass someone in an area. That’s kinda the definition 

But it doesn’t apply bc globally Taeyeon was the bigger one first ? 

1 hour ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

King Taeyeon

Imagine being the Main vocalist of one of the most legendary Kpop groups of all time. And Being one of the biggest Soloist. Going into her 17th year. Longevity is insane 

Well in that list she's the only one who released music in the last 3 weeks.

Career totals also swing drastically in Taeyeon's favor if we don't ignore the fact that she's the leader, main vocal, most famous member, and occasional center of one of the biggest girl groups ever so idk who we're trying to fool with this gaslighting. They're easily the 2 most successful female idols by a wide margin and certain BTS members are the only men coming for their success or relevancy 

Just now, Xalric said:

Well in that list she's the only one who released music in the last 3 weeks.

Ok? And 

30 minutes ago, gigantopithecus said:

Thanks!    It's good to know my essays don't look completely insane. btw do you know the answer to the Mingyu post on the last page? If hes stanning her, I'm making new calculations and want to add him to the tasteful members line

No problem! Trust me, it’s really refreshing to see someone wholeheartedly praising aespa while still being respectful to other people’s tastes, while someone else is constantly sounding like a broken radio and doubling down on their behavior when someone calls it out. Sensibility is really a great thing and you have it.

and wait who is Mingyu stanning? Sorry I haven’t read previous pages properly  lol 

 

I think both IU and Taeyeon are a bit washed up, they both peaked artistically in the late 10s and now they're releasing cheap, trend-chasing music and hanging out with the latest popular kids.

 

It's even worse in IU's case because she released some of the most mind-blowing K-pop songs i've ever heard. It all went downhill after that "eight" song with the BTS dude 

 

 

@harrythevifan any info on this nugu female band ? They are giving me Jpop vibes, they are currently top 10 on yt music 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Sheep said:

Has anybody noticed that the nearly decade old IU vs Taeyeon discourse is always perpetuated by noise music boy group fans or SNSD rival GG stans and never uaena most the time? I've never met a normal person that partakes in this faux rivalry. 

 

  Bc there's no one to compare to against Yawn or any of the SNSD girls from their gen so IU is the easiest choice. 

 

Stans who will hop on artists who have the most success. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Sheep said:

Career totals also swing drastically in Taeyeon's favor if we don't ignore the fact that she's the leader, main vocal, most famous member, and occasional center of one of the biggest girl groups ever so idk who we're trying to fool with this gaslighting. They're easily the 2 most successful female idols by a wide margin and certain BTS members are the only men coming for their success or relevancy 

You’re really a hater huh?  Bc how you can proceed to even brings up the BTS men but not the BP members 

3 minutes ago, Take Me Apart said:

I think both IU and Taeyeon are a bit washed up, they both peaked artistically in the late 10s and now they're releasing cheap, trend-chasing music and hanging out with the latest popular kids.

 

It's even worse in IU's case because she released some of the most mind-blowing K-pop songs i've ever heard. It all went downhill after that "eight" song with the BTS dude 

 

 

Not IU washed up 

 

One of her two releases this decade being a compilation of old scraps completely disproving this fanfiction about trend chasing 

Edited December 3, 20232 yr by Sheep

IU "washed up" ijbol

 

The woman is letting our faves breathe before she blocks them all for months on end again. She's doing our faves a favour 

Just now, Adama said:

You’re really a hater huh?  Bc how you can proceed to even brings up the BTS men but not the BP members 

Why would I compare 2 legends with enormously impactful and respected bodies of work that have drawn global acclaim for their talent to 4 separate girls who collectively have released less than one album worth of solo material?

@Gorjesspazze9 i see that certain people are gassing you up here as if Taeyeon is being attacked somehow but don’t worry sis it’s not that serious lol. I’m sure the IU comparison was only brought up because she’s the only one who rivals Taeyeon in current success and it’s not outrageous to think that she might surpass her in that ranking you posted if she releases something. I don’t think it was meant as any drag against taeyeon 

anyway I love both equally, two talented women with gorgeous music. 

Washed up following trends but some of y'all worship less talented idols who makes Tiktok music

 

The irony of it all. Sure Jan 

 

Edited December 3, 20232 yr by Odette Violet

Just now, Witnessed ET said:

@Gorjesspazze9 i see that certain people are gassing you up here as if Taeyeon is being attacked somehow but don’t worry sis it’s not that serious lol. I’m sure the IU comparison was only brought up because she’s the only one who rivals Taeyeon in current success and it’s not outrageous to think that she might surpass her in that ranking you posted if she releases something. I don’t think it was meant as any drag against taeyeon 

anyway I love both equally, two talented women with gorgeous music. 

Yeah I’m so confused. All I said was both are legends 

Of course as a sone I’m gonna acknowledge Taeyeon’s achievements more. But Atrl is gonna make a big deal out of nothing as usual

Taeyeon stans really need to stop bringing up IU, it's just setting themselves up.

 

Last year Taeyeon (released an album) had 1.1B circle chart points whilst IU (no music released) had 3.5B points. Taeyeon's latest alleged "global" hits INVU and Weekend only have 93M and 60M on Spotify respectively. The last IU title track to receive less streams than 93M was in 2015 (Twenty-Three), before Taeyeon even debuted as a soloist. On the latest Circle chart, IU has a song from 2010 and 2017 charting. It's just not comparable. 

 

Let's not also bring up the fact that every SM act this year was going to at least Europe for their tours (NCT Dream, WayV, Red Velvet) but Taeyeon's tour was suspiciously limited to only Asia. Let's be real, IU could easily play in arenas in the big cities in Europe, LA, and NY but the same cannot be said for Taeyeon so the tour attendance card is a bit of a moot point especially considering her last tour was in 2019 (before the DEMAND of modern concerts post COVID-19 pandemic). 

 

She is firmly #2 and is not gaining anything on IU and that's okay. Still a legend in the game for 17 years!

 

Not the Taeyeon fans jumping to defend IU. The backfire from one and backtracking from another at the same time. This is what I mean when I say this rivalry is completely made up. 

9 minutes ago, Sheep said:

Why would I compare 2 legends with enormously impactful and respected bodies of work that have drawn global acclaim for their talent to 4 separate girls who collectively have released less than one album worth of solo material?

Bc despite having released less than one album they got both local and global acclaim with IMPACT and are one of the most respected and  biggest kpop female idols  

 

It was indeed very convenient 

Edited December 3, 20232 yr by Adama

Did really someone questioning Yawn's touring power? 

4 minutes ago, Adama said:

Bc despite having released less than one album they got both local and global acclaim with IMPACT and are one of the most respected kpop idols just like the BTS solo 
 

It was indeed very convenient 

Not everything is about black pink sorry. Maybe after one of them has an album or at least a 2nd comeback we can start having those discussions but they do NOT have IU or even Taeyeon's domestic career totals individually or anything close. This is delusional even by blink standards.

Edited December 3, 20232 yr by Sheep

Just now, Sheep said:

Not everything is about black pink sorry. Maybe after one of them has an album or at least a 2nd comeback we can start having those discussions but they do NOT have IU or even Taeyeon's domestic career totals individually or anything close.

Bc the BTS men does ?

 

See how it was convenient 

Anyways, this thread needs to get back to the music. 

 

The mess already  color me surprised I guess 

 

anyway, why is miss Vernon replying to random comments now  @gigantopithecus

 

4 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

Did really someone questioning Yawn's touring power? 

Her touring power is massive (obviously!), but comparing a 2019 tour to a 2023 tour is like comparing the pure album sales of a western album from 2013 to one from 2016. 

Just now, Adama said:

Bc the BTS men does ?

 

See how it was convenient 

Yes there are BTS members with albums or multiple comebacks quit acting new