I still don't get this whole discourse and payola over spotify when the idols themselves couldn't careless about it. They rather be on Top of Melon or Billboard with sold out albums and concerts than getting billions of streams that wouldn't even help them pay their rents 

 

 

 

Edited September 25, 20233 yr by Odette Violet

insert nene_its_getting_weird.gif at the conversations about Giselle’s face and body  the comments are not giving what you think they’re giving.

 

 

Where's that Nayeonce gif when you need it? 

 

6 minutes ago, Flomik said:

Since Sophie was the reference, I wonder if Sophie herself took part in the writing camp/sent some demos

If she did it for ITZY, why not aespa?

 

 

The English demo is called sweet n sour. Seems more like it’s a demo from the vroom vroom era that itzy bought according to internet speculation.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Flomik said:

Since Sophie was the reference, I wonder if Sophie herself took part in the writing camp/sent some demos

If she did it for ITZY, why not aespa?

 

 

 

The worst song of the album 

43 minutes ago, Sept said:

Wait "Better Things" jumped 11 spots to #69 Melon Daily yesterday

 

Maybe they should promote it more in Koria

 

they should, the GP are eating it up. Who cares about spotify outside of twitter and stan circles anyway? 

 

 

They girls are out there slaying without 1B streams and 58566970 playlistings

 

Edited September 25, 20233 yr by Odette Violet

 

 

Indonesians sure loves the girls. China, Japan and Brazil may have a competition 

Just because your faves are doing bad on global streaming, does not mean that you can downplay streaming as a whole and take away other people's achievements in that field. 

 

 

 

41 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Didn’t better things debuted with 27M  And is still stuck at 25M after a month. 
i am has half the playlists reach of after like and it took them both 77 days to reach 100M streams. 
 

some songs get insane playlist reach with crap overall numbers. promo =/= success.

LE SSERAFIM maintaining 9 mill monthly listeners despite no new music since spring and the lowest current playlist reach out of their 4th gen peers. Where's their comeback announcement omg stop sending them to these lame ass shows

 

45 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Didn’t better things debuted with 27M  And is still stuck at 25M after a month. 
i am has half the playlists reach of after like and it took them both 77 days to reach 100M streams. 
 

The song quality and appeal obviously also has a part. No amount of playlisting can force people to play a song they don’t want. But acting like it’s not a factor when it clearly is is just a way to downplay acts. 
 

Not every song that has smashed on Spotify has done because of playlisting. But there have been MANY songs that have done well on Spotify due to being plastered everywhere. 
 

Idk why you’re acting like it’s an absolute as some retort. 
 

Song quality AND promotion matters. 

Edited September 25, 20233 yr by Gaia

41 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

I still don't get this whole discourse and payola over spotify when the idols themselves couldn't careless about it. They rather be on Top of Melon or Billboard with sold out albums and concerts than getting billions of streams that wouldn't even help them pay their rents 

 

 

 

Fifty fifty were about to get 2 millions from distribution bc of Cupid streams alone 

 

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/fifty-fifty-expected-paid-2-million-usd-month-due-success-cupid/

 

4 minutes ago, Adama said:

Fifty fifty were about to get 2 millions from distribution bc of Cupid streams alone 

 

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/fifty-fifty-expected-paid-2-million-usd-month-due-success-cupid/

 

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The payment will include revenue from various music distributors,

 

so not only from spotify.

 

 

If any of this celebrities or Kpop idols are making a huge deal out of spotify then It's still not up for discussion

 

 

 

Edited September 25, 20233 yr by Odette Violet

imagine downplaying spotify streams to instead hype up... melon streams  sheep are never beating the koreaboo allegations I fear

 

tbh dragging a group for not doing well in one metric (while great in others) just feels a bit dumb

Anyway back to visuals

 

 

 

 

Miss Strawberry better watch out

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

tbh dragging a group for not doing well in one metric (while great in others) just feels a bit dumb

Exactly

 

At least Aespa can translate their "low" streams to tour attendance, social media engagements etc

 

14 minutes ago, Butters said:

LE SSERAFIM maintaining 9 mill monthly listeners despite no new music since spring and the lowest current playlist reach out of their 4th gen peers. Where's their comeback announcement omg stop sending them to these lame ass shows

 

Late November, trust 

 

I really wonder what path they will take, as Unforgiven was an Antifragile rehash (kinda), will their next single be an Eve rehash or something new? I hope the latter

lbr it’s very rare for a group to smash on every metric

like BP was the only girlgroup who constantly did great everywhere and it took 6 years for another gg (NJ) to do the same

 

same with bgs, no bg is still touching BTS for example

3 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

tbh dragging a group for not doing well in one metric (while great in others) just feels a bit dumb

Yeah it’s such a weird behavior tbh

 

Melon is important for kpop acts based in Korea, but also downplaying the world’s biggest streaming platform Spotify which generates millions of dollars in revenue for so many artists… is strange as well

 

I guess I'm a Wonyoung akgae now. Sorry Miss Sakura

 

14 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

 

so not only from spotify.

 

 

If any of this celebrities or Kpop idols are making a huge deal out of spotify then It's still not up for discussion

 

 

 

Most of the recent Kpop hits on Spotify also performed well on AM global 

Weeekly at the end of 2021 almost made 300k USD bc of After school streams on Spotify alone. 
 

Also bless you if you thinks Idols are the ones who are making money from their millions selling albums when they have zero credits and with their debut contracts lol . That’s why female Idols  end up richer than most of these males idols despite selling less than them 

Edited September 25, 20233 yr by Adama

1 hour ago, Sept said:

Wait "Better Things" jumped 11 spots to #69 Melon Daily yesterday

 

Maybe they should promote it more in Koria

 

I've seen it raising in the circle chart these past weeks, they should promote it hard, but SM will let it die just like they let Thirsty and S&S die

Just now, Adama said:

Most of the recent Kpop hits on Spotify also performed well on AM global 

 

My girlies are also quite  doing well in AM Global so I guess spotify isn't everything really. Thanks for proving my point 

 

8 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

lbr it’s very rare for a group to smash on every metric

like BP was the only girlgroup who constantly did great everywhere and it took 6 years for another gg (NJ) to do the same

 

same with bgs, no bg is still touching BTS for example

TWICE are also there

Edited September 25, 20233 yr by Pluto2022