57 minutes ago, ZENO said:

As a fan of BLACKPINK:

2016-2017 BLACKPINK is very 2NE1, and multiple tracks were 2NE1’s in the first place.

2018-2020 BLACKPINK is less 2NE1 and more “western friendly”.

 

As a fan of blackpink since 2012, I don’t see how the girls are similar to 2ne1.
Yes, they worked with the same producer. Yes, they took some of the 2ne1’s demo. So in terms of musicality, maybe ? But the girls are nothing like 2ne1. They are visually attractive, and talented. 2ne1 were just a mess overall, stiff dancing, chipmunk vocal, bad vocal, screaming all over the record, ugly outfits to distract us from their faces. 

1 minute ago, gugunikko said:

As a fan of blackpink since 2012, I don’t see how the girls are similar to 2ne1.
Yes, they worked with the same producer. Yes, they took some of the 2ne1’s demo. So in terms of musicality, maybe ? But the girls are nothing like 2ne1. They are visually attractive, and talented. 2ne1 were just a mess overall, stiff dancing, chipmunk vocal, bad vocal, screaming all over the record, ugly outfits to distract us from their faces. 

Wow. 

Snstd fans better but albums tho, Yawn alone sold 250k this year, they need to at least match that (which is like NUGU level these days 

1 minute ago, gugunikko said:

As a fan of blackpink since 2012, I don’t see how the girls are similar to 2ne1.
Yes, they worked with the same producer. Yes, they took some of the 2ne1’s demo. So in terms of musicality, maybe ? But the girls are nothing like 2ne1. They are visually attractive, and talented. 2ne1 were just a mess overall, stiff dancing, chipmunk vocal, bad vocal, screaming all over the record, ugly outfits to distract us from their faces. 

You are insulting 4 legends of K-Pop. Most of the K-Pop people love today would not exist without groups like 2NE1 paving the way.

how much did CyelL sell with her latest album? 

Aespa becoming million seller with one album before Twice 

 

Hope for them that it’s not another Nct 127 fraudulent situation 

1 minute ago, ZENO said:

You are insulting 4 legends of K-Pop. Most of the K-Pop people love today would not exist without groups like 2NE1 paving the way.

I wouldn’t go that far and say most of the Kpop, they have like 2 cute hits but most of them are forgotten. 

sm either mass buying pre orders or paying people to lie I have to scream 

Just now, gugunikko said:

I wouldn’t go that far and say most of the Kpop, they have like 2 cute hits but most of them are forgotten. 

You guys… 2NE1 literally made girlcrush concepts popular. And it’s definitely NOT their fault if YG sabotaged them the best way possible. And fact that the company made Blackjacks starve to then do the same with BLINKS is also… 

 

 

3 hours ago, bocelli said:

Yes the numbers are def freaky fishy. Like someone pointed out, THE ALBUM sold 1.5 M and BP did that with 4 IT-girls, huge online presence and a string of mega hits.

 

Aespa have 1 relevant member and one mega-hit and youre telling me theyre on par with BP? Yeah not buying it. 

 

Imagine being so OBSESSED with trumping the competition that you start LYING about pre-orders. The DESPERATION!

 

Its 2022, album sales have increased don't be dumb and I am not even an aespa stan, far from it, also bp will sell 2to 2.5m if they cb this year so stupid comparison 

1 minute ago, ZENO said:

You guys… 2NE1 literally made girlcrush concepts popular. And it’s definitely NOT their fault if YG sabotaged them the best way possible. And fact that the company made Blackjacks starve to then do the same with BLINKS is also… 

 

 

Some of the newer users just be saying anything 

 

Don't care about them in general but I love this. It doesn't sound dated despite being from the EDM era

Just now, Jenlisa said:

Some of the newer users just be saying anything 

*joined a decade ago*

*listens to K-Pop since 2008*

5 minutes ago, ZENO said:

You guys… 2NE1 literally made girlcrush concepts popular. And it’s definitely NOT their fault if YG sabotaged them the best way possible. And fact that the company made Blackjacks starve to then do the same with BLINKS is also… 

 

 

Girl crush was already a thing before 2ne1 lol. Also blackpink made the girl crush concept a thing again. Everyone was still on cute, fresh concept even after 2ne1 supposedly popularized girl crush concept. 
 

also the girl crush concept that everyone’s talking about today is not 2ne1 kind but more like what 4minute were doing with I my me mine or huh back in 2010. 

Edited June 9, 20224 yr by gugunikko

17 minutes ago, gugunikko said:

As a fan of blackpink since 2012, I don’t see how the girls are similar to 2ne1.
Yes, they worked with the same producer. Yes, they took some of the 2ne1’s demo. So in terms of musicality, maybe ? But the girls are nothing like 2ne1. They are visually attractive, and talented. 2ne1 were just a mess overall, stiff dancing, chipmunk vocal, bad vocal, screaming all over the record, ugly outfits to distract us from their faces. 

CL & Minzy are both more individually talented than any BP member so keep your mouth shut

The lack of respect when 2ne1 influenced BP so much, why do you think Rose & Jennie sing that way? 

For the record I'm a fan of both but give respect where it's due. BP members certainly would.

Not the 2ne1 vs bp discourse for 36795359935706580648035357905 time here, I am tired let it go ffs

6 minutes ago, Harrier said:

CL & Minzy are both more individually talented than any BP member so keep your mouth shut

The lack of respect when 2ne1 influenced BP so much, why do you think Rose & Jennie sing that way? 

For the record I'm a fan of both but give respect where it's due. BP members certainly would.

Rose and Jennie style of singing is influenced by indie style of singing. CL and minzy would only wish, they could be as beautiful and as talented as blackpink. 
 

The illusion that 2ne1 are talented came from the believe in Kpop, if someone ugly, they must be talented. In reality, 2ne1 are less or on par with blackpink. 

Edited June 9, 20224 yr by gugunikko

1 minute ago, gugunikko said:

Girl crush was already a thing before 2ne1 lol. Also blackpink made the girl crush concept a thing again. Everyone was still on cute, fresh concept even after 2ne1 supposedly popularized girl crush concept. 

so cute 

 

 

2 minutes ago, gugunikko said:

Rose and Jennie style of singing is influenced by indie style of singing. CL and minzy would only wish, they could be as beautiful and as talented as blackpink. 

Just say you're shallow and go

1 minute ago, Harrier said:

Just say you're shallow and go

 

it’s fact 

3 hours ago, gugunikko said:

Girl crush was already a thing before 2ne1 lol.

It absolutely was not.  Everyone was doing cute, sexy or r&b/ballad. 

yikes!

3 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said:

It absolutely was not.  Everyone was doing cute, sexy or r&b/ballad. 

 

 

many more

And it wasn’t even called girl crush until blackpink

Everyone was calling it ssen concept or badass concept. 

Edited June 9, 20224 yr by gugunikko

Can't come for the talent so they go for the physic and low blow. 

 

Stanning a GG but still be misogynistic. 

3 hours ago, gugunikko said:

 

 

many more

 

The Grace flopped to oblivion and were modeled after TVXQ.  They didn't popularize anything.  And most of Fin.KL's hits were cute songs. They were not a straight girl crush group.  No one was consistently successful with the concept until 2NE1