Does this count as electro-rock?

 

@Miichael I don’t think there’s anything wrong with people asking if this or that genre is rock, especially when you yourself admitted that it’s all fluid and there’s a lot of similarities between rock and pop. 
 

St.Vincent’s Masseducation has a lot of influences and if made by Gaga it could be classified as dance or pop firstly and then as glam rock etc simply because it’s Gaga who released it.

i can see her doing a more mature vers of plastic hearts. 

Happy 10 years to Venus!

 

Edited October 27, 20232 yr by Almodusa

1 hour ago, Miichael said:

liddos aren't asking for rock music tho, a few in the gaga base sure but most would prefer she made pure dance-pop for every album in her career

 

 

And that would turn her into the most boring artist ever

 

 

17 minutes ago, JohnWayneHolland said:

And that would turn her into the most boring artist ever

 

 

I hate these kind of takes tbh. She’s right now the most interesting and versatile artist out there and one for the history books. She could very well release the same song over and over again for the rest of her career and it wouldn’t change anything because her legacy is bigger than life and she will forever be known as a full on entertainer with music catalogue that starts with dance pop, through arena rock pop/dance, edm, jazz, country pop, folk, classic and end with 90’s house music. 

49 minutes ago, Almodusa said:

Happy 10 years to Venus!

 

A gem

44 minutes ago, DonnieDarko said:

I hate these kind of takes tbh. She’s right now the most interesting and versatile artist out there and one for the history books. She could very well release the same song over and over again for the rest of her career and it wouldn’t change anything because her legacy is bigger than life and she will forever be known as a full on entertainer with music catalogue that starts with dance pop, through arena rock pop/dance, edm, jazz, country pop, folk, classic and end with 90’s house music. 

I'm not saying that her legacy will be erased or whatever, but if she only released dance-pop albums for the rest of her career that would be SOOOO boring, she's very versatile and there's still a lot of genres that she can explore, putting her in the dance-pop box would honestly be a waste of her talents, we know she can make a perfect dance-pop record, let her try other things 

I remember being so gagged when I heard Venus for the first time 

A bop  Deserved a music video

3 minutes ago, JohnWayneHolland said:

I'm not saying that her legacy will be erased or whatever, but if she only released dance-pop albums for the rest of her career that would be SOOOO boring, she's very versatile and there's still a lot of genres that she can explore, putting her in the dance-pop box would honestly be a waste of her talents, we know she can make a perfect dance-pop record, let her try other things 

The Fame, The Fame Monster, Born This Way, ARTPOP, and Chromatica are all dance-pop and they are all distinct bodies of work with very few boring moments. I don't get this narrative at all.

2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

The Fame, The Fame Monster, Born This Way, ARTPOP, and Chromatica are all dance-pop and they are all distinct bodies of work with very few boring moments. I don't get this narrative at all.

Let's break this down:

- I didn't say her albums were boring, I said it would get boring if she only released dance-pop albums from now on.

- I wouldn't call BTW dance-pop, it incorporates influences and elements from many genres (rock, metal, country, Mariachi, techno, etc.) making it unique, literally nothing sounds like it.

- We had C2C, Joanne, ASIB Soundtrack and LFS as "palate cleansers", of course right now you're not tired of dance-pop.

-The only album I would consider mostly boring is Chromatica, and if that's an indicator of what her future dance-pop albums are going to sound like then.... 

-I don't think her label would allow her to completely abandon pop, so of course her albums will always be pop, but the pop genre is very wide, there are a lot of pop sub-genres that she can try, why put her in a box?

5 minutes ago, JohnWayneHolland said:

Let's break this down:

- I didn't say her albums were boring, I said it would get boring if she only released dance-pop albums from now on.

So you have no basis for thinking this?

45 minutes ago, JohnWayneHolland said:

I'm not saying that her legacy will be erased or whatever, but if she only released dance-pop albums for the rest of her career that would be SOOOO boring, she's very versatile and there's still a lot of genres that she can explore, putting her in the dance-pop box would honestly be a waste of her talents, we know she can make a perfect dance-pop record, let her try other things 

I know, I just thought she already released a lot of music with other genres and it’s so very versatile and different, so no matter what she does, she’s still leagues above her contemporaries in this area.

Edited October 27, 20232 yr by DonnieDarko

No one is putting her on a box, definitely not herself. All of her albums are different and interesting and there’s no reason to think she will continue making the same albums from now on. 

Gaga is deeply a dance music artist and we'll get some dance pop elements in all of her future records. We all need to get this. What changes in her records is the influences. 

 

I don't think we can compare the types of EDM presented on TF, TFM, BTW, ARTPOP and Chromatica. All are different. Even Joanne has some dance music elements on songs such as DIC, John Wayne, Diamond Heart and AYO. 

I always laugh at the younger generations around Judas on TikTok. Debating on Gaga's use of Judas and biblical references saying that Judas is a great song but felt iffy with the blasphemy of it all. While we oldies weathered through the controversy of Judas the song being released before Easter and the music video premiering after Holy Week of all dates. 

 

The peace sign is a hint that Gaga will return to music when we have achieved world peace.

5 hours ago, The Witch said:

But liddos are the only ones asking for rock music tho, that's what i said.

So we AGREE that she shouldn't listen to them!

 

This! liddos were begging hard for some rock music since late 2010s. And when she FINALLY released a pure ROCK song with The Rolling Stones suddenly no one wants to stream it twice.

It seems like ATRL has a bias towards more pure pop songs like Kylie and Britney. Idk, it seems like Gaga's brand of dark pop and glamrock influences cause her to be underrated here.

17 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

It seems like ATRL has a bias towards more pure pop songs like Kylie and Britney. Idk, it seems like Gaga's brand of dark pop and glamrock influences cause her to be underrated here.

ATRL has a bias against Gaga, so whatever she does ATRL will hate it. That's why the opinion of ATRL is as valuable as trash 

Edited October 27, 20232 yr by jesus del rey

19 minutes ago, jesus del rey said:

ATRL has a bias against Gaga, so whatever she does ATRL will hate it. That's why the opinion of ATRL is as valuable as trash 

spill a bit

 

 

Lemme vote for Chromatica for best as if I am not trashing it here constantly

 

 

Edited October 27, 20232 yr by jesus del rey

My only concern about a rock album is that it's a hit or miss depending on the direction, she could potentially release a 'Jagged Little Pill', 'Fallen' or 'Tidal' masterpieces or an album full of 'Dope' kind of song with a rock production, like some of you mentioned the previous pages, song that I recognize being good but personally not a big fan.

 

Although I would be pleased with a 'Plastic Hearts' kind of album since I like it a lot.

17 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

 

Of course the usual miserable suspects are running to vote 'Chromatica' as worst regardless, as if they listen or stan a 'Biophilia' kind of album between that list.